robinhood_1984:
to suggest that there were no oppertunities or only experienced drivers could stand a chance at getting a job is complete ■■■■■■■■.
Really.
So as there’s a ‘driver shortage’ in Canada does that mean that a new driver from here can just go over there and get a licence and then get a start with no previous experience.If what you’re saying is true of how things were here during the 1980’s then the same would obviously apply there .If not why not.
NO you got to have some experience they do prefer some euro work
Nuf said.So we’ve actually got some evidence that there are situations in which there are no opportinities for inexperienced drivers regardless of wether it’s Canada or 1980’s uk and if it’s a driver with euro experience v one without who they gonna choose .The only difference with the Canada of the 1980’s was that you’d have been turned away by immigration before that stage even if they’d have been happy with just the uk experience.In that regard I am speaking from experience having got the job and been turned away in exactly those circumstances.
I think Newmercmans situation of no licence and 19 years old the one I said about my dad and I know switchlogic worked for nolans at one time the firm which has probaly had more bad press than any other international haulier based in western Europe. Says more about the employers than them.
They wasn’t the type of firm you Probally work for after 10 years experince but they would have never have probally got there later breaks with better firms if they hadn’t had that grounding.
As I have said the first firm I worked for was well dodgy old wrecks run on kerosene private tax no o licence and fly tipping but that grounding got me jobs driving decent motors with decent paying work down the line.
I have only done one euro trip which is about as ludicrous as Newmercmans one but Il spare the details for now but I’ve done work i wanted to do since I was a kid and I say I speak for most people I didn’t get there by getting gifted the top job the day I walked out of the test centre.
kr79:
I’ve been offered a job by h&r without euro experince maybe not the best trucking job over there by all accounts but I must of said something right.
That would be “do you need a driver”
A common phrase used by anyone who actually wants a job
I left the bit out about your lorrys are wrong you need some dollys and I can pull five trailers at once but I’m only doing one drop a minimum of 4000 miles alway.
kr79:
I left the bit out about your lorrys are wrong you need some dollys and I can pull five trailers at once but I’m only doing one drop a minimum of 4000 miles alway.
Canadian trucking companies such as H&R, AYR Motors and countless smaller outfits etc etc etc…would quite happily take on any driver from the UK, Russia or Timbuktu without any experience whatsoever. Its because of this fact that the Canadian government has made two years experience a requirement to be eligable for a work permit.
There are enough unemployed Canadians with no experience, they dont need to import foreigners of the same standard. Its a government requirement, not a company one.
Many Canadian companies would give anyone with a pulse the keys to a truck and send you off to the US. Same as many British companies in the 80s and 90s would send anyone off in a truck to Germany or Italy because there was a vast shortage at that time of British drivers willing to do it and be away for so long. Hence why for so many people, their first job was a continental one back then.
kr79:
Job centre says it all realy. Who has ever found a decent job there.
If you’d have been here in the 1980’s it was often the job centre or nothing if you needed a job to get some money coming in.As you’ve said you’d have been cutting your options by just going for those impossible ‘decent’ jobs with the shiny motors.
I thought the word had been banned on these forums. The abbreviated term for a gentleman of the road who loiters around toll gates in the hope of finding rich pickings from passers by.
Rhymes with “do as they likey”
Oh as a headline you could have used “Turnpikes boil my ■■■■”
Carryfast, you have been whining and bleating, on almost every thread you’ve ever commented on, about how it’s everyone else’s fault that you never lived your dream, but you fail to grasp one important thing, hundreds, maybe thousands of drivers started out on a career driving abroad during the time frame that you say you tried, each and every one of them would’ve been in the same position as you, no experience, yet they all managed to get a job
There is one person who is responsible for the way your life turned out…YOU
So please stop with the poor me crap, it’s a little bit boring now, this thread is about turnpikes, so get back on topic You tell us why the turnpike double is good for us, about how it makes driver’s lives better, because that’s what this forum is for, ex pat TRUCKERS, not haulage companies or economists, but simple lorry drivers
newmercman:
Carryfast, you have been whining and bleating, on almost every thread you’ve ever commented on, about how it’s everyone else’s fault that you never lived your dream, but you fail to grasp one important thing, hundreds, maybe thousands of drivers started out on a career driving abroad during the time frame that you say you tried, each and every one of them would’ve been in the same position as you, no experience, yet they all managed to get a job There is one person who is responsible for the way your life turned out…YOU
So please stop with the poor me crap, it’s a little bit boring now, this thread is about turnpikes, so get back on topic You tell us why the turnpike double is good for us, about how it makes driver’s lives better, because that’s what this forum is for, ex pat TRUCKERS, not haulage companies or economists, but simple lorry drivers
Which part of it was all about luck and that’s why I actually managed to get a job which as I’ve said wasn’t exactly the worst job in transport that it’s possible to find and therefore it’s certainly not a case of whining,bleating,or missing out on any so called ‘dream’,don’t you understand.There’s probably plenty of others out there who’d have been much happier doing uk trunking than doing local building deliveries or any of the other types of zb uk work that I was ‘lucky’ enough to be able to get off of onto something better.The difference is I’m not saying it was those drivers’ fault that they were lumbered with something worse than I was ‘lucky’ enough to get on.
As I’ve said the chances of drivers,without (lots of) previous international experience,being able to easily find employment,on that type of work,has always been the exception that proves the rule.Your own case,as to how you started out,is good as any in showing that.
As for LHV’s,of whatever type,wherever in the world,it’s the haulage companies who do the hiring and they’re obviously finding the economics of running doubles outfits more viable (even with weight restrictions which translate to less than two full weight trailer loads on a single artic) than running single trailer outfits and therefore they’re hiring drivers to drive them and seem to be finding drivers who want to drive them,in a labour market in which those drivers have the choice to drive anything else if they’d prefer to .All of which should answer your question.
It was a statement not a question !!! Try banging your forehead repeatedly with a wire brush whilst telling yourself “I must try harder”,we want photographic evidence of course
flat to the mat:
It was a statement not a question !!! Try banging your forehead repeatedly with a wire brush whilst telling yourself “I must try harder”,we want photographic evidence of course
He wont provide photographic evidence…that would dis-prove his claim to be “middle aged”
flat to the mat:
It was a statement not a question !!!
It actually said ‘you’ (me) tell us ‘why’.That’s a question and I gave the answer.
More force with the brush required matey,failing that who knows ? Self mutilation,keys to the Jag in the ashtray,behind closed doors in Suburbia it could be a multitude of sins,but for sure it has no relevance to how LCV’s/Pikes boil my **** on a weekly basis,ie this thread !!!
BTW,during a very long winded safety/operational meeting at work today the Taliban arrived in their Frightliner with a delivery of gas cylinders,could see how it was going to pan out so asked the assembled guys to watch through the round window( ).Couldn’t have done a worse job of delivering if the whole scenario had been scripted,drove over the lawns entering the yard,multiple attempts at backing onto a dock and then remembering the trailer doors were still closed,the t shirt shorts and flip flops were the last straw for our plant manager.Don’t reckon we’ll be using that 3rd party carrier again.
How do these people get their class 1 let alone the TDG ticket ?
flat to the mat:
BTW,during a very long winded safety/operational meeting at work today the Taliban arrived in their Frightliner with a delivery of gas cylinders,could see how it was going to pan out so asked the assembled guys to watch through the round window( ).Couldn’t have done a worse job of delivering if the whole scenario had been scripted,drove over the lawns entering the yard,multiple attempts at backing onto a dock and then remembering the trailer doors were still closed,the t shirt shorts and flip flops were the last straw for our plant manager.Don’t reckon we’ll be using that 3rd party carrier again.
How do these people get their class 1 let alone the TDG ticket ?
So if I’ve read it right,keeping things absolutely relevant to the thread,this was an A train doubles outfit made up of two 53 foot trailers and after putting both trailers onto the dock,having wiped out the well kept office lawns on the way in,he realised that he’d forgotten to open the doors first.
Obviously didn’t have any ‘experience’ of uk night trunking,using mostly roller shutters on the trailers,but ‘sometimes’ there were a few with doors,before they gave him the job.
Or he couldn’t drive and or the place wasn’t big enough to accommodate such a vehicle.
I think even the roadtrains in oz lose a trailer or two once they get near civilisation.
I know its a bit off the subject ,but yup ive seen the wrapround turban in action ,was early to load at Exshaw …3 trucks came in from BC …doubled manned …a driver from the first truck reversed all the trucks in…
FLT driver told me they were on last warning ,as the last time they could not reverse onto the bay.
.If not why not.
You tell us why the turnpike double is good for us, about how it makes driver’s lives better, because that’s what this forum is for, ex pat TRUCKERS, not haulage companies or economists, but simple lorry drivers