Trans Arabia /S. Jones of Aldridge:A few pics

ronhawk:
Have you seen John he’s bringing me another boat

One that got away from the port - remember the shipments being offloading over the side of animal carriers from Sudan and herding them out of the port??

Ken

Not the appropriate thread, however a lot of experience centralised overe here…

The first 335hp ■■■■■■■ diesel was made in Shotts Lanarkshire 9th May 1957 and
was intended for an Euclid-chassis. See attached picture with info

Where are you Wirlinmerln ? I hope all is well and you are on the mend ? I put on a couple off funnies on the thread ! And I thought that will pull the stitches and make you wince a bit , but not a murmur !! Don’t tell me I’ve got to come up up on the Electric bike ? It only goes 12mile on a full charge ,That means I will have to have at least 6 days travelling, that’s bed & breakfast and a chickin Mozola Mac special for evening meal n/o 114 on the Menu, its the same coming back it will cost a bloody Fortune but you know I will do it ? Even if I have a Solar pack on my back as big as that Mosque that we lived next door to in Damman, that means stoping 5 times A day For Prayers? That would mean taking my shoes off and washing my feet 5times as well it will probably be raining ?that will mean I will catch my Death of Cold and finish up in Hospital next to you !! I wish you well from all on this thread you " Started “. Ron”

Robert1952 was aged 5 in 1957 but how could he then knew the ■■■■■■■ 335hp
would play a significant role in the history on ERF’s

By the way, it was the first 335hp model H from Shotts, with the NH-model
and the presence of the turbo (Holset/Schwitzer) caused the NTC335 finally.

Perhaps Jerry and Ron have more knowledge on the NTK335-model?

ERF-Continental:
Robert1952 was aged 5 in 1957 but how could he then knew the ■■■■■■■ 335hp
would play a significant role in the history on ERF’s

By the way, it was the first 335hp model H from Shotts, with the NH-model
and the presence of the turbo (Holset/Schwitzer) caused the NTC335 finally.

Perhaps Jerry and Ron have more knowledge on the NTK335-model?

Interesting picture and info, A-J. I’m sure I read somewhere that the 335s in the ERF NGCs came from America (rather than Shotts). I’ll see if I can find the reference. Robert

You are right Robert, the NTC335 finally came from Columbus Indiana, with the C for Custom.

■■■■■■■ had various series, hence L, A, H, NH and several sub-models, depending on the branch
as automotive, marine, industrial, construction, mining, energy (generators), locomotive etc that
still is the key-formula to succes for ■■■■■■■■ the wide variety of markets and its products. Close
to hundred years of existence and presence

Thanks for clarifying all that, A-J.

I wonder if the 335s built here were mostly generators and marine diesels. There can’t have been that many 335s sold in UK as lorry engines - the only ones I can think of went in a few ERF 5MWs, a few ERF NGCs, a few LHD Seddon-Atkinson 400s, a few Guy Big-Js, a few Leyland Marathons and a few Ford Transcontinentals. The rest came in ready-built US imported units (rare). I can’t think of any others!

Robert

When I speak for Belgium, indeed several applications for marine (tug-boats), locomotive
(cockerill steel works and national railroad NMBS) and generators (hospitals, industry).
I will scan some reference-books tomorrow with applications to relevant manufacturers.

Not really relevant to this thread, but then my comments rarely are!

Been visiting the daughter down in the Deep South…well Oxford!

Spent the journeys down and back boxed in on 3 or 4 sides, depending on the lane, apart from the toll road, which my wife and I find a welcome break and well worth the money. Luckily moving all the way, there and back.

Total mileage 650 including side trips while we were there. Can’t believe I used to drive that in about 16 hours in Saudi, back in the day. I was knackered after 250 in the car now, as an old ■■■■!

So, would I like to drive a truck today? Harking back to Robert1952’s comment about my (and his) sense of freedom some 40 years ago. Not much freedom now! I don’t think so. The gear has improved probably dramatically, although I only read about it now, rather than drive it, but the concentration levels in an eight hour shift must be exhausting!

Enjoying the threads that have developed while I’ve been away. Even - gulp! - agreeing with CF on the EU!

Remembered an incident on the tap line which was awkward at the time.

Cleared customs at Turaif and set off in the evening. This was the Douglas Freight Volvo. 20 tons of prefabricated house for the village in khobar being built for the expat (mostly American) Saudia Pilots and their families.

Doing 60mph on that long, mostly straight road, I thought I felt something on my ankle. I bent down to scratch it and felt a monster rat climbing up my leg!

It was probably a mouse, but felt huge and nasty inside my trousers! Please don’t let it come near my…

Smacking my leg and fighting the steering, I swerved off into the desert. I stopped and jumped out of the cab. Shaking my leg like someone on an early exit from ‘Strictly’ I managed to shake it off me with only a couple of bites!

I’m sure it was much more frightened than me, but it was a humbling experience!

John

robert1952:
Thanks for clarifying all that, A-J.

I wonder if the 335s built here were mostly generators and marine diesels. There can’t have been that many 335s sold in UK as lorry engines - the only ones I can think of went in a few ERF 5MWs, a few ERF NGCs, a few LHD Seddon-Atkinson 400s, a few Guy Big-Js, a few Leyland Marathons and a few Ford Transcontinentals. The rest came in ready-built US imported units (rare). I can’t think of any others!

Robert

Perhaps not the right place to input (many) pages out of a supliers view for the 335hp…

From the UK:

Generators
Auto Diesels from Uxbridge
Dale Electric from Filey
Houchin from Ashford
Petbow from Sandwich
Graham Puttick from Ash

From France and Germany:

Rear-dumps
Berliet from Venissieux in their models T-25 and T-100
Kaelble from Backnang in their models KD838S and K40EC

Various:

Perlini from Italy
Frederic Parker from England

J/W , driving to day I agree it take its tole,I normally stop at the services just to wash my eyes they get a bit sore nowadays it’s just concentrating to much and not blinking enough ? That’s when going on hols,or going to see our kid in Ilfracombe by car .A few years back for my 70th birthday I drove down there 220 Mils on my motor cycle this was in February , not warm in fact bloody freezing ,! I put news paper down my over trousers to keep my legs warm ? I averaged about 70 on the M5 this is on my BSA 1956 A10. the news papers gradually moved down my legs and started blowing out on the M5 I apologise if any got on your wind screens !! My legs got so tired I could not hold them against the tank,so now I was riding with my legs apart!! Ron

Peter Slym. RIP he was jolly fella aways good for a laugh a big lad with a smile , he was always playing jokes on all of us at Trans Arabia ! His favourite was putting dead Scorpions in your cab you would jump a mile when you opened the cab door seeing a Scorpion on your seat ,he would Wait to see your reaction and laugh his head off , i can see him now shaking hands with the Saudi gards unknowing to them he had A Scorpion In his Palm they did not think it was funny but PS got away with it , good driver good memories Ron

I guess that run was sponsored by ■■■■■■■ Athens or Daventry? lol

Good post Ron, we all enjoy your contributions…beware of Robert
as he is writing all evidence down in a book! You all are a top-source
for this M/E thread

ERF-Continental:
I guess that run was sponsored by ■■■■■■■ Athens or Daventry? lol

Good post Ron, we all enjoy your contributions…beware of Robert
as he is writing all evidence down in a book! You all are a top-source
for this M/E thread

Ron knows this: I also work behind the scenes, seeking permission to use quotations and pictures hither and thither! :wink: Robert

The photo of the ■■■■■■■ 335engine , A/J this engine not only looks good it is brilliant Ron

ronhawk:
The photo of the ■■■■■■■ 335engine , notice the oil drain on the turbo this is offset to keep a measured amount of oil in the turbo its the attention to detail-and eliminating the chance of the common shaft of this unit to fail, A/J this engine not only looks good it is brilliant Ron

Nice remarks Ron! I need to verify but remember this 335 was applied into an Euclid so a lot of dirt.

Soon after Shotts opening…Euclid (respectively GMC) opened a new factury in Glasgow-region.

Ron, my sincere compliments on your memory and good sense of humour, surely with +70 years

ronhawk:
A /J ,The Sherlock Holmes of Teseco TMS in S/A , working as there project manager,I had a ERF with ■■■■■■■ engine almost brand new that had very low oil pressure, i dispatched this truck under warranty to GCC Damman for investigation ? I had recently left this company as there ■■■■■■■ engineer, so I new the ropes!! They informed me that they had found some card board in the sump and accused us as the culprits ?the warranty would not be honoured? And we will be charged for there work !!! Well I was in my element and created a stink , I got hold of the cardboard, carefully opening it up found it to be a cardboard box about 18inch x 6inch this had been sucked tight round the filter mesh stoping the oil flow !! I then noticed some indelible ink markings on this box ,this was proved to be a box that was issued to ERF Sandbach with fan belts in for the build up on there line. This had some how got into the sump when the the vehicle was built, apparently the sump was removed when the engine was being fitted in the chassis this box had been left in the sump This I proved to Ray Cottingham the M/E ■■■■■■■ man from Athens who agreed to extend the warranty on this engine . I was so keen to pass on my knowledge to the Thie mechanics I started a training school up at Taseco Tms Ron

Some memories might become refreshed with some documents which were common in your training-school…

MHO is that the specs were applicable for the ERF C-series out of the Taseco fleet…Fuller RT14609A and Rockwell SSHD for the 6x4 types

Ken Higgley Ready for the off , with this road train of two graders for Damman, last minuet instructions from KB seen smiling I will leave you to it then!! K H was a good lad never any trouble , we always seem to run out of side light bulbs on these road trains the bulbs where sub standard and did not last very long , I well remember KH pulling away , he just took it in his stride .when going on leave I took his mail round to his home over Dudley way he lived on a steep hill!! perhaps that’s the reason for his Nonchalant attitude. RIP I did admire all our lads Ron

ronhawk:
Ken Higgley Ready for the off , with this road train of two graders for Damman, last minuet instructions from KB seen smiling I will leave you to it then!! K H was a good lad never any trouble , we always seem to run out of side light bulbs on these road trains the bulbs where sub standard and did not last very long , I well remember KH pulling away , he just took it in his stride .when going on leave I took his mail round to his home over Dudley way he lived on a steep hill!! perhaps that’s the reason for his Nonchalant attitude. RIP I did admire all our lads Ron

I believe Ken Higley was a ‘black-country’ man. This picture appears in Lorries of Arabia.

By the way, I ■■■■■■ myself laughing at your description of the newspaper emerging from your trousers down the M-way. Keep 'em coming, old thing! Robert :smiley: