Tips please!

Liam:
56’ draw bar on a new class II license!!!

Yep!!
because Alikat(or anyone else who) has a class 2 licence she can drive on the UK roads in a draw bar unit! she would of course have had to have a fully licenced passinger who has a class C+E for more than 3 years, and associated learner driver insurance but it is quite legal. The passinger would have full responsiblility for the motor as a teacher. but yes it is quite legal.
thats how people learn to drive, they are taught!

As far as I am aware the rules on LGV learner driving are changing so that only qualified teachers can take out learners. not sure when it is comming into place.

Exactly Critic, and I’ve also been on the roads with an artic with a 40’ 2 axle trailer on the back, likewise with a suitably qualified tutor with me.

Complete

Been pointed to some online CDL knowledge tests at cristcdl.com
Seems I do ok on most things except the air brake questions :open_mouth: You’d think I don’t drive the things every day…
Queue up some heavy duty reading up when I get over there…

After looking through the trailer spec link that Rikki sent, I have a few observations:

UK trailers ar limited to 2.55m width. This equals 8’6". US trailers are likewise limited to 8’6". There is no width difference on trailers.

The pic I posted was of a Freightliner COE. This unit is the same as a Mercedes Argosy from about 5 years ago, but with a longer sleeper. It is no wider than any other COE on the market, and certainly isn’t any wider than the trailer it pulls. Neither are the tractor units in Europe-the tractor is never wider than the trailer. The trailer is never wider than 2.55m, therefore, European tractors are not wider than American tractors.

True, the cab on a conventional is a bit narrower than a cabover, and some of the sleepers are narrower as well, but British/European tractors and trailers are no wider than American units.

Trailer length in Britain is limited to 12.2m, which is 40’. There is a total length of 16.5m, but that includes the tractor unit. This has nothing to do with height, but it sounds like drivers are confusing the two dimensions. After looking at several pictures here, on other sites, and in my last 2 issues of Truck magazine, by using a ruler and comparing width/height ratio on trailers (assuming each trailer is a full 8’6" wide), I have yet to see one over 13’ high, with most closer to 12’6". Even the talles cabs (such as a Globetrotter, Magnum, etc) never are higher than 13’.

In all my years driving in the US, I’ve only twice seen trailers built taller than 14’. One was a trailer about 15’ tall and 12’ wide, maybe 60’ long. It was built to carry machine parts made on one assembly line at the GM plant in Lockport NY from one building to another on on the premises. It never leaves the property. The other was a trailer owned by Boeing in the Seattle area, designed to carry the wing assembly of a 747 to the main plant from the wing plant. This trailer was at least 15’ high, 80’ long, and was allowed only on a specific route, using yellow flashers front and rear, “oversize load” signs, and had a second driver steering the trailer axles from a cab slung under the trailer body, in front of the axles. Very odd trailer.

I’ll still consider the existence of these mysterious 16’ trailers to be another trucking myth (like the water-powered turbo or the 100mph truck with the 900hp motor). Show me a picture, and maybe I’ll change my mind. If these units are as common as people say they are, it shouldn’t be difficult to find one.

16’ trailers aren’t exactly common here, but 15’+ double decks are pretty commonplace.
Found you the 1,000hp truck…
click here for info Impressive huh?

Alex, try a search for car transporter companies in the UK, most are loaded to 16’3"

Found you the 1,000hp truck…
click here for info Impressive huh?

Well, sorta…Even with 1kbhp, I doubt that a fully-laden roadtrain is going to go any faster than maybe 100kmph. I’d love to see a pic of that 400 bhp trailer. I wonder just how they mount the motor on it, what kind of transmission they use, and how they manage to synchronise it with the lead unit. Pulling double or triple trailers is tricky enough without one of them having a mind of it’s own!

there were pics of it in T&D which our Cliff works for. The front motor is a standard K whopper, with manual trans, and the trailer has an automatic which is remote controlled from the cab. And that thing has 5 (or was it 6?) trailers :exclamation:

Alli,
Another small warning ;- Most height restrictions and weight restrictions are not posted before you turn into that road, one example is route 2 east in MA, between I-495 & I-95 you come across a 26 ton limit and no way of turning back or off, I just go straight through it.

Hey, before you come over here, you’d better make sure you can get some health insurance. I know that Canadians working in the USA can buy a policy to keep their provincial insurance going while in the states. Not sure what you guys need to do.

Peruse this website in regards to a Road Train company with tri drive and 8X4 Road Train prime movers with 5 + trailers;
www.mitchellcorp.com.au
Also check the employment page,Road Train Operaters needed!!

Alli can buy travel insurance to cover everything including up to a $million in heath care at any post office. I think its about 200 pounds a year. or cheaper by each week.

Got travel insurance. Hopefully won’t need it. Not had a serious accident yet, and don’t intend to start now. And all my minor stuff is other people ramming me :unamused:

carlson.uk.com/ only a triple deck at the start

Thanks Brian :slight_smile:

no props Pat when i was with Mr Kippling cakes out of Eastleigh Hants we had some triple deckers 54 skids long ways 15ft 9ins the depots were they went had to have new fork trucks to unload them.
here`s the web address for Gray & Adams with there twin decks & floating floor trailers, i hope the safeway trailers have a good undercoat. :laughing: :laughing:
gray-adams.com/index.htm

The hazmat test can be tricky, but they give you quite a few goes so in the end you will pass it. Don’t bother going for the doubles/triples. Triples are restricted to just a few states anyway , just get your hazmat. I started driving reefers…i.e refridgerated carriers but now I pull tankers, food grade. Much better and less work. Whatever you do, try to get with a good sound medium size company.
Try to avoid the big boys like Schneider. I’ve talked to many who work for the big outfits and some have horror stories.Many times,they treat you like dirt. I’m with a co. with about 400 trucks. You live in SD so I’m sure you can hook up with a good one, and make sure they run with good modern equipment, no cabovers!!
But those roads in winter…Yikes!!! LOL. It’s a lot of fun. All I can say when driving in blizzards…stay heavy!!! :stuck_out_tongue: :laughing: