Walking away is a late resort. I’ve been on TN for thirteen years and in that time I have fallen out with one or two people. But where possible I have reached out (sometimes via DM) and built bridges. It takes two to build these kind of bridges; and each case they have responded, thus enabling continued discourse. This thread is actually facilitating continued discourse for those who don’t want to give up trying.
You come across as a very level headed calm and rational person mate…which is a quality in my book.
I personally do not share those qualities, I have had to deal with gob shi…es smart arses and knob heads giving it large …all my life,.after a time it wears a bit thin.
Given that I have very little tolerance towards them (again in real life) zero in fact these days as I have got older, it manifests it’self on here from time to time when the same type of person ‘has a go’.
If that is a problem to you or anyone else I can only apologise…but with me what ya see is what ya get.
Cheers.
No apology required: it isn’t a problem to me. I observe with interest.
My view is that we all hold different viewpoints on TN. None of is here to ‘police’ someone else’s thinking. We would be better off noticing others’ viewpoints. If we don’t accept them, at least accept that they hold a different view point. We all become less tolerant as we get older, but we can at least temper it, even if we can’t control it!
Your opinion, that you are right, is agreed with by you. Fascinating.
I daresay others will agree with you.
Where? Have I ever told tales of my physical rucks with others? Told of my height and strength? Spoken about “what would happen if anyone met me in real life”?
Haven’t you said that you “call a spade a spade”?
Other people do that too.
If you say, as you have that you make judgments about people based on their race, then you are racist.
Because a spade wants to be a trowel does not make it one.
A spade is still a spade.
If you find the true name for what you are offensive then become something else.
If you previously mis-spoke and you do not judge people based on nationality then I will very quickly apologise.
But I will resist being gagged by fear of physical threats about “what would happen in real life” etc.
“Little Man Syndrome” I am 7 foot 19inche tall, a body-builder, and mixed martial arts, black gymslip.
This is the internet.
Black gymslips (God forbid, I hope you meant leotard!) notwithstanding! From my observations, it seems that you’ve learnt exactly where each other’s triggers are. From basically just irritable discourse in which you find you disagree with one another, you have become more and more fascinated with what triggers the other’s outrage. This has gradually led to you continuing to put up counter arguments but actually talking past each other in order to press those triggers and get a gratifying response.
Now that you know each other’s triggers, you can choose to avoid those and stick to the subject. Gradually, you should then carry on calm discussions in which you hold opposing viewpoints.
What someone is triggered by even being questioned? They equate their stature with being right? They do not like to be questioned and expect or demand “respect”?
What if someone is triggered by the (uncomfortable) truth?
Should we self censor to avoid discord?
You constantly show yourself up to be just how I have sussed you out.
All wind and pi55 no substance or ability to back it up.
As for that little gem…when exactly was that and which particular nationalities wold you be referring to.
Too late mate you can stick it where the sun does not shine.
Tales? Where when? I have nothing to prove mate esoecially to someone like you.
The real life thing as I clearly explained is my criteria for posting on here…do not twist my words.
I have not done that you supercillious prick.
Anothet LMS symptom ‘poke the bear’ at a safe distance.
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usual condescending, patronising and “I’m always right” attitude. A bit like you’ve displayed here by trying to be a smart arse with your response
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Seems I aint the only one who has noticed a shared opinion no less …re the Trump thread.
You appear to be deflecting. I’m not talking about the triggers embedded in the content / subject of your discourse; I’m talking about the triggers that barb the personal comments.
Demanding ‘respect’ is controlling and manipulative behaviour. Respect is earned: it is not a right. Demanding special diversity language in the workplace (sometimes referred to as ‘woke’) is equally controlling and manipulative behaviour. You see, all this demanding is a two-sided coin.
Sorry, but I’m not following that.
I was suggesting that eg questioning of someone’s sources, is enough to get the defensive hackles raised.
And those raised hackles lead straightaway to not a link or “I read it in ■■■” but something more of an attack on the questioner rather than address the question. As you might say “deflection”.
We should always be prepared to question sources. There’s nowt wrong with being defensive. We might even choose to be offensive in return through passive-aggression - or not.
So, if someone has no proper sources, they got it from karen-offa-facebook maybe, then is it acceptable to use passive aggression to deflect from the absence of any factual back up?
I call that unacceptable. If someone is not prepared to admit they have poor or no source then either, admit it, or at least just be quiet. Don’t start chucking out stuff to obscure the question.
I didn’t say, or imply, any of that. I said that is right to question those sources. I also said that it was right to be defensive when challenged for questioning those sources. You read me awry.