The Home Secretary

There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

JeffA:
There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

Again, it becomes a matter of faith:

If you don’t believe in facts, even when proven - then you either didn’t understand the evidence, don’t want to believe the Truth, or just cannot be sold-to under any circumstances.

Would you still vote Labour if Keir Starmer started using the expression “Deep State” for a matter of interest?

Winseer:

JeffA:
There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

Again, it becomes a matter of faith:

If you don’t believe in facts, even when proven - then you either didn’t understand the evidence, don’t want to believe the Truth, or just cannot be sold-to under any circumstances.

Would you still vote Labour if Keir Starmer started using the expression “Deep State” for a matter of interest?

Radical leftists will do things that they initially opposed or denied, to suit them. They have double-standards as a default.

I mean even JeffA would cry “Deep state helped him win!” if Trump got back into office.

robroy:
Instead of making Cameron foreign sec, they should have replaced Sunak with him as leader PM.
Like him or hate him,.at least the bloke had a modicum of honour and integrity (a rarity in MPs these days) when he resigned after the unexpected Brexit vote result.

Cue Jeff.
Cue Carryfast.
:smiley:

It depends if your definition of honourable is MPs like Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown Cameron and all the othe no hopers including Starmer.
As opposed to Powell, Benn, Shore, Davis and even IDS.
On that note Cameron’s fake ‘resignation’ was just a pre planned stunt to deliver the plan B of Brexit in all but name when the ‘Referendum’ stunt failed.
What the Tories and Labour both have in common is the ideology of the Collective just different versions of it.
The party that took us into it was never going to take us out of it.Which is why IDS let alone Davis were kept away from the driving seat in favour of all the usual Europhile suspects including closet remainder Boris.
Putting Cameron back as PM would just be a bit too obvious.

The Deep State won’t be helping Trump any more than they helped Milei last weekend…

The vote for Milei was clearly overwhelming enough for a 4-9% “swing fiddle” not to be effective.
He won by a clear 10%+

Marky-p:

Winseer:

JeffA:
There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

Again, it becomes a matter of faith:

If you don’t believe in facts, even when proven - then you either didn’t understand the evidence, don’t want to believe the Truth, or just cannot be sold-to under any circumstances.

Would you still vote Labour if Keir Starmer started using the expression “Deep State” for a matter of interest?

Radical leftists will do things that they initially opposed or denied, to suit them. They have double-standards as a default.lieve

I mean even JeffA would cry “Deep state helped him win!” if Trump got back into office.

No I wouldnt. Why make up lies after losing an election only trumpy does that. Tell me you dont believe Trumpys lies. You cant be that gullible.

JeffA:

Marky-p:

Winseer:

JeffA:
There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

Again, it becomes a matter of faith:

If you don’t believe in facts, even when proven - then you either didn’t understand the evidence, don’t want to believe the Truth, or just cannot be sold-to under any circumstances.

Would you still vote Labour if Keir Starmer started using the expression “Deep State” for a matter of interest?

Radical leftists will do things that they initially opposed or denied, to suit them. They have double-standards as a default.lieve

I mean even JeffA would cry “Deep state helped him win!” if Trump got back into office.

No I wouldnt. Why make up lies after losing an election only trumpy does that. Tell me you dont believe Trumpys lies. You cant be that gullible.

It’s obvious that you would prefer to believe that China didn’t rig the US elections in favour of its puppet Joe and his compromised scumbag son.
While any sensible American knows how the electronic voting system was put in place for that purpose.The truth is America is running scared of China allowing the far left to set the agenda.Thats the elephant in the room and the definition of the deep state and has been since the assassination of JFK.He was killed by Communists for his policy on Vietnam not the Russian version over Cuba.

@ JeffA I agree with you about some things, but not all. F`instance

JeffA:
You cant be that gullible.

Hmmm, the evidence suggests otherwise.

Re Immigration etc here is an interesting take on the latest hiccup in the Rwanda scheme,
inews.co.uk/news/politics/tory- … ay-2778430
Another misstep in the gov attempt to spend over 120,000,000 on re-housing 200 irregular migrants.

Marky-p:

Winseer:

JeffA:
There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

Again, it becomes a matter of faith:

If you don’t believe in facts, even when proven - then you either didn’t understand the evidence, don’t want to believe the Truth, or just cannot be sold-to under any circumstances.

Would you still vote Labour if Keir Starmer started using the expression “Deep State” for a matter of interest?

Radical leftists will do things that they initially opposed or denied, to suit them. They have double-standards as a default.

I mean even JeffA would cry “Deep state helped him win!” if Trump got back into office.

I doubt that. Deep State/Globalists are the enemies of every Right-leaning leader on the planet right now - not just the more “Eccentric” ones.

JeffA:
There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

Again, it becomes a matter of faith:

If you don’t believe in facts, even when proven - then you either didn’t understand the evidence, don’t want to believe the Truth, or just cannot be sold-to under any circumstances.

Would you still vote Labour if Keir Starmer started using the expression “Deep State” for a matter of interest?
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Radical leftists will do things that they initially opposed or denied, to suit them. They have double-standards as a default.lieve

I mean even JeffA would cry “Deep state helped him win!” if Trump got back into office.
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No I wouldnt. Why make up lies after losing an election only trumpy does that. Tell me you dont believe Trumpys lies. You cant be that gullible.
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It’s obvious that you would prefer to believe that China didn’t rig the US elections in favour of its puppet Joe and his compromised scumbag son.
While any sensible American knows how the electronic voting system was put in place for that purpose.The truth is America is running scared of China allowing the far left to set the agenda.Thats the elephant in the room and the definition of the deep state and has been since the assassination of JFK.He was killed by Communists for his policy on Vietnam not the Russian version over Cuba.
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If there was a proper Right Crackdown around the world - the current CCP rollout of stuff - would be halted in it’s tracks if it happened in China as well!

Never think of the “Chinese COMMUNIST Party” as anything other than “Left”.

Carryfast:

JeffA:

Marky-p:

JeffA:
There’s no reality to the deep state - it’s just a story made up by QAnon people in the american south - people who sniff their own wind and make love to wild pigs.

China didn’t need to rig any of the Western Elections - the Left of just about every Western nation - were quite happy to see it happen, and have their beloved politicians do it for them.

Only the incumbent politicians - are CAPABLE of rigging their own elections, if you think about it…

“Multiple Fronts” springs to mind here.
Dead People voting, out-of-cachement votes permitted, same people voting multiple times, ballot boxes stuffed/removed altogether, results called early if “Trump was behind, but catching up” (Virginia) Results delayed and the count itself slowed "If Biden was behind and needed to catch up (Rust Belt States) and of course the many mules not just out in the street, but in Leftist Unionised US MAIL sorting offices too, where ballots for Trump can be sent to a Left-Union run Incinerator plant - with no one worried about it. Ditto for Peterborough over here.
Not theory, as enough ballots have been found on landfill sites in the past to suggest that “Closed Shop Incinerators” is the best way to deal with “too many ballots for the wrong candidate” in real time…

Because a vote isn’t tied to an actual living person’s ID - it is EASY to rig elections in this manner, especially with the help of the Internet itself, which “Voting Machines” are not legally allowed to be connected to during the election!
That’s why the counting process - was always so slow…
Just think: If all voting machines WERE officially allowed to be connected to the internet - the “result” would come up as quickly as a Race Track Totalizator system that calculates in real time “How much each winning ticket gets paid”.

You can’t have it BOTH ways!