TFW's

Because they’re panicking, they have three years to get the workforce up to 90% Canadian.

The point they’re missing is that once you get nominated for PR you are no longer a TFW, but landed status, so you can be included in the 90%.

I think…

newmercman:
Because they’re panicking, they have three years to get the workforce up to 90% Canadian.

The point they’re missing is that once you get nominated for PR you are no longer a TFW, but landed status, so you can be included in the 90%.

I think…

Landed status means PR obtained not applied for , well it did in SK , who the hell knows nowadays ? CIC never knew their arse from their elbow before and this will just compound the issue . Best of luck to the newbies in the minefield of immigration :unamused:

I was reading through something posted on Facebook and I’m sure it said that once you’ve been accepted onto a PNP that you’re no longer considered a TFW.

Could be wrong though, it was full of acronyms and political terms and it made my eyes bleed…

landed status is what u are and if u have not got permanent residency u r classed as landed alien with work permit . :smiley:

newmercman:
Because they’re panicking, they have three years to get the workforce up to 90% Canadian.

The point they’re missing is that once you get nominated for PR you are no longer a TFW, but landed status, so you can be included in the 90%.

I think…

70% this year 80% July 1st next year and 90% July 1st the year after. Once nomination has been accepted then you don’t count

taffytrucker:
70% this year 80% July 1st next year and 90% July 1st the year after. Once nomination has been accepted then you don’t count

Exactly, so stop jacking drivers out the door now, let them apply for PNP and all will work itself out. I don’t understand why all these stories of drivers been sacked now are from Alberta, no such thing is happening in NB for example. All foreign workers will have their existing 12/24 month work permits honoured anyway, which should give everyone enough time to get on the PNP/PR ladder before they’re subject to any percentage quota’s that are coming in so all these Alberta firms that are crying foul, yet sacking their own workers are just doing it to themselves.

Yea but if a company won’t sponsor till you been there for a year and application takes 8-12 months if no hic ups then that could push you over the 2 year point with no extention to WP available

taffytrucker:
Yea but if a company won’t sponsor till you been there for a year and application takes 8-12 months if no hic ups then that could push you over the 2 year point with no extention to WP available

Won’t or can’t sponsor before a year? In NB a driver has to be with a firm for 12 months now, rather than 6 as was previously the case. Once you apply and get a file number for your PNP application you’re on implied status anyway so you don’t have to have PR within 2 years, it can take 20 years for all it matters, you’re still on implied status until you get a decision on PR.
Its all irreverent though, as I said, ALL existing TWP’s are being honoured so why the hell are they firing people and then whinging on in the media about having empty trucks and pretending their hard done by.

Implied status, that’s the phrase I was looking for, cheers Robinhood :wink:

You have to shake your head sometimes at the decisions these companies make, hardly surprising that they have to recruit from overseas is it, when they can’t grasp a simple concept such as this new LMO deal, no wonder the locals don’t want to work there :unamused:

robinhood_1984:

taffytrucker:
Yea but if a company won’t sponsor till you been there for a year and application takes 8-12 months if no hic ups then that could push you over the 2 year point with no extention to WP available

Won’t or can’t sponsor before a year? In NB a driver has to be with a firm for 12 months now, rather than 6 as was previously the case. Once you apply and get a file number for your PNP application you’re on implied status anyway so you don’t have to have PR within 2 years, it can take 20 years for all it matters, you’re still on implied status until you get a decision on PR.
Its all irreverent though, as I said, ALL existing TWP’s are being honoured so why the hell are they firing people and then whinging on in the media about having empty trucks and pretending their hard done by.

Here in AB a company can only sponsor so many drivers, not everyone, when I was at H&R it was so many (I did know the number but can’t remember), I think twice a year.
So there’s then a backlog because there’s a lot more drivers than sponsorships and they then run out of time and can’t renew a third WP.
And like Taff said 8 - 12 mths now before they start processing the Provincial part.

That’s it as Neil said lol. I know my place can only sponsor 12 drivers this year and that number is set by the government

Then what a complete load of nonsense. Why would any driver who is serious about staying in Canada go to a place like Alberta where your entire future is at the mercy of others. I’ve never liked the Alberta PNP system and this just goes to show why. I still don’t know why they’re firing drivers now though, they’re on existing TWP’s which will be honoured until expiry, some of them may have been on 24 month work permits ffs, why boot them out the door now?!

It’s simple Robin. Say I got sponsorship after being with my company for a year and CIC are even slower then normal and takes over 12 months to get everything sorted and application accepted. In the meantime my WP runs out but I can’t get another one from my company because they have more then the 30% capped rate I can’t get an extended one because my application is still waiting to be accepted I would end up having to leave the country.

taffytrucker:
It’s simple Robin. Say I got sponsorship after being with my company for a year and CIC are even slower then normal and takes over 12 months to get everything sorted and application accepted. In the meantime my WP runs out but I can’t get another one from my company because they have more then the 30% capped rate I can’t get an extended one because my application is still waiting to be accepted I would end up having to leave the country.

CIC are irrelevant, if you have nomination from your province, that gives you implied status at federal level and if you have provincial nominee status, but not PR yet, that provincial nominee status entitles you to as many TWP’s at your current employer without any need for an LMO whatsoever until you do receive a PR decision.

My first 12 month work permit ran out 6 months before I received PR but I did have PNP by then. My PNP certificate entitled me to another 12 month work permit, without any LMO, which I duly took down to the border and in a matter of minutes received another 12 month TWP.

Yea I got that part but it’s taking upto 12 months to get your application accepted and until it’s accepted you need LMO.

taffytrucker:
Yea I got that part but it’s taking upto 12 months to get your application accepted and until it’s accepted you need LMO.

So you have to be with a company for 12 months before you can even be put forward for PNP and then its taking 12 more months to even hear back from the PNP office? Thus meaning that even a 24 month TWP isn’t enough to get on the ladder at all?

Technically speaking though, and I haven’t got the time at the moment to find links but I have read in the past on the CIC website somewhere, that as soon as you submit your PNP application and they open a file in your name (not approve you, just open a file) then you’re granted implied status and can stay in Canada for as long as it takes to receive a final decision at federal level. This is fine for the ordinary person who lives and works within Canada but its problematic for those crossing in and out of Canada, such as truck drivers, because although you have the right to do so, there is no supporting evidence in your passport or documentation to present to Canadian customs.

hi guys I know things change but had 5 different w.permits and application was in for pr 12mths after I got here then because of having to do rehabilitation in the end even tho was in work the federal said I was at maximum 4yrs on w,permit so even tho my pr was being looked at by Ottawa they forced me to leave for min 3mths but the kicker was the provincial govt informd me u leave now ur application is redundant immideatly so I was bo…xd told them to shov it and of I went went back running spain quite happy 3mths later call from p.e.i. pr lady saying we didn’t stop application due to all problems in Ottawa. oh ye u got two weeks to get back p.e.i find job get new work permit.so back I rushed wot a mug.l.o.l anyway finally got it 1politician from Charlottetown done more in 2days than all the other bods but seems they making things so hard now for new arrivals. but gd luck to anyone trying tho :smiley:

robinhood_1984:

taffytrucker:
Yea I got that part but it’s taking upto 12 months to get your application accepted and until it’s accepted you need LMO.

So you have to be with a company for 12 months before you can even be put forward for PNP and then its taking 12 more months to even hear back from the PNP office? Thus meaning that even a 24 month TWP isn’t enough to get on the ladder at all?

Technically speaking though, and I haven’t got the time at the moment to find links but I have read in the past on the CIC website somewhere, that as soon as you submit your PNP application and they open a file in your name (not approve you, just open a file) then you’re granted implied status and can stay in Canada for as long as it takes to receive a final decision at federal level. This is fine for the ordinary person who lives and works within Canada but its problematic for those crossing in and out of Canada, such as truck drivers, because although you have the right to do so, there is no supporting evidence in your passport or documentation to present to Canadian customs.

What Taff is saying is, it is taking 12 mths to open your envelope to start processing so in that 24 mths you haven’t got a file # or anything, so they cannot renew your WP.