Tesco bans SatNavs

Andrew.simmons:
You all did many years ago.

Yep, usually involving going the wrong way, getting stuck, going down dead ends, getting wound up and stressed to hell.

Many places didn’t have street maps and many streetmaps were out of date the day they were printed. For example today good luck finding a paper map that is up to date for Catterick and whilst you’re trying to figure out how to get to a place there via the A1 which no longer exists with the road having been closed and no longer existing the guy with the Satnav will be using the new motorway junction that was built and be there long before you.

Most truck drivers had a box full of maps which they carried with them. Lots of fun that was trawling through it only to find the map you wanted you didn’t have or the one you had was 5 years old and for those working at companies like Tesco where you don’t have your own wagon having to cart the box from the car to the truck and back again.

What’s next, going back to running lorries on steam?

SouthEastCashew:
Completely banned at my place. Given a map of the place we are delivering to with directions at the side. Really isn’t rocket science to use a map combined with a truckers atlas for the low bridges and weight limits etc. I think a lot of drivers only use sat navs because they are there but if there was no such thing no one would have a choice but to simply crack on.

I wonder what would happen if you had an accident because you were trying to follow a paper map at the same time as driving through the city.

A lot of drivers use Satnavs because they’re infinitely more safer to use, safer to follow and cover far more areas with far more up to date information than paper maps ever can.

Conor:

UKtramp:
I was in a CPC course today and was pleased to hear, Tesco have banned the use of truck satnav use. If you are caught using a truck satnav you will be banned from their sites and could lose your job. I think this will be introduced by a lot of companies now and is in my opinion a good thing. You have to use a traditional map and they even check that you have one. Lets hope this continues and other firms quickly follow.

Only a complete halfwit would think it was a good thing. Only a complete braindead moron would think driving down the road trying to follow an A to Z over several pages whilst piloting a 44 tonne lorry through a built up area was a good thing.

Tin hat on…its called multi tasking… :stuck_out_tongue:

Some of you lot are really living in the Stone Age, you go home and beat yourself round the head with a club for entertainment or something? Its 2017 people! Get with the times, why bother hauling a massive box of A-Z’s around when you can have it all in one device that fits on the windscreen.

My tools of the trade are my Tom Tom 6000 and Google Maps. Not once have they led me wrong because I actually do my research before I start my run. I’ll get on Street View and walk around till I find the place I’m looking for, then I’ll cross reference it with the route in my Sat-Nav is giving me. If I don’t like it then I’ll, hey, get this, I’ll decide the way myself!

Don’t start with this crap of “You’re not a real driver if you use a Sat-Nav” etc. I’ll use whatever I need to to my job easier. Work smart, not hard!

Radar19:
Some of you lot are really living in the Stone Age, you go home and beat yourself round the head with a club for entertainment or something? Its 2017 people! Get with the times, why bother hauling a massive box of A-Z’s around when you can have it all in one device that fits on the windscreen.

My tools of the trade are my Tom Tom 6000 and Google Maps. Not once have they led me wrong because I actually do my research before I start my run. I’ll get on Street View and walk around till I find the place I’m looking for, then I’ll cross reference it with the route in my Sat-Nav is giving me. If I don’t like it then I’ll, hey, get this, I’ll decide the way myself!

Don’t start with this crap of “You’re not a real driver if you use a Sat-Nav” etc. I’ll use whatever I need to to my job easier. Work smart, not hard!

Agreed. I can’t see any reason for using paper maps nowadays when you can get it all on one little device. The iron rule is simply to plan and review your route, same as you would with a paper map.

Radar19:
Some of you lot are really living in the Stone Age, you go home and beat yourself round the head with a club for entertainment or something? Its 2017 people! Get with the times, why bother hauling a massive box of A-Z’s around when you can have it all in one device that fits on the windscreen.

My tools of the trade are my Tom Tom 6000 and Google Maps. Not once have they led me wrong because I actually do my research before I start my run. I’ll get on Street View and walk around till I find the place I’m looking for, then I’ll cross reference it with the route in my Sat-Nav is giving me. If I don’t like it then I’ll, hey, get this, I’ll decide the way myself!

Don’t start with this crap of “You’re not a real driver if you use a Sat-Nav” etc. I’ll use whatever I need to to my job easier. Work smart, not hard!

What happens though if your nav had a breakdown, you could be in the middle of nowhere not actually knowing whereabouts you are let alone the del address. Having a glance at a map gives you an idea which direction/ region youre heading and will also show terrain, not really something you can do with a nav to good effect. Navs have their place as an aid but an aid only, nothing will ever give you the info a paper map gives…

I don’t know if the o/p is on a wind up or not, but neither do I think anybody is saying you should not use a sat nav, but go back to uslng a map ,.A to Z and nothing else.

It’s the d/heads who started all this with the old ‘‘The sat nav SENT me there’’ after getting their 15 foot trailers under a 13.foot bridge, or getting stuck down an impossible road.
They don’t ‘‘SEND’’ you anywhere, they give an instruction and YOU decide if it’s a goer or not…that is how a professional uses one.
These guys are the morons who are terminally feckless, where as most of us realise the sat nav is a guide and not a direct order that you must obey.
Jeez, they even have road signs now saying ‘‘HGVs Do not follow your sat navs down here’’ :unamused: …talk about legislating for the brainless. :unamused:

Problem is you can pass your test in Poland on some silly tractor then come here go agency and jump straight into a truck with no assessment or ability to speak English.

adam277:
Problem is you can pass your test in Poland on some silly tractor then come here go agency and jump straight into a truck with no assessment or ability to speak English.

Yeh, but only if you believe all that typical RDC ■■■■■■■■, usually spouted by the gob ■■■■ everybody is avoiding as they bury their heads in their Sun. :unamused:

Follow up question… Do Terbergs have a cigarette lighter socket so that I can keep my TT 6250 charged for the whole shift?

I think theres space for using everything from paper maps to Google Maps and a satnav.

When coaching I used to plot a route on a map, program it into a satnav and cross reference the route. I used to look on Google Maps street view for anything that may be controversial and if my satnav was taking me through it I would use ‘pins’ in my satnav to avoid that hazard and plot a new route.

What I then had was a route where I was aware of the geography through the maps, that was hazard free (using street view) that I could follow on my satnav to check my progress.

The problem isn’t satnav. Its following it blindly

adam277:
Problem is you can pass your test in Poland on some silly tractor then come here go agency and jump straight into a truck with no assessment or ability to speak English.

No one forces the employers to hire guys who’ve only ever driven tractors out in the sticks.

Although I also think you’re overstating the case. As well as the guys who speak no English, some guys from abroad speak better English than the locals, and look a lot more professional. It’s funny to share a laugh with somebody who is accustomed to working for a couple of pound an hour, remarking on how much better organised things seem to be where they come from.

And you certainly don’t have to speak English to observe crap, inefficient organisation.

The Germans laugh at our barmy, potholed road system. The Eastern Europeans laugh at our efficiency. Both probably laugh at our system of employment nowadays where there is a constant turnover of staff, and then wonder why that local low bridge near the depot keeps getting bashed or the wall at the entrance of that old industrial site keeps getting pulled down, because the high turnover ensures there is always a steady supply of guys on the road who know nothing of these special hazards before they fall foul of them.

AndrewG:
What happens though if your nav had a breakdown, you could be in the middle of nowhere not actually knowing whereabouts you are let alone the del address.

That’s the employer’s problem, same as a flat tyre. My phone has never “broken down” at work.

Having a glance at a map gives you an idea which direction/ region youre heading and will also show terrain, not really something you can do with a nav to good effect. Navs have their place as an aid but an aid only, nothing will ever give you the info a paper map gives…

Google Maps is as good enough as any paper map really. There is nothing to prevent an app showing terrain if that information is any use.

I’ve only come a cropper on terrain once, and that was using a paper map - there’s no substitute for route experience. If you send a guy to an unfamiliar place, there’s going to be error occasionally, even with the best will in the world. If error is never acceptable, then you do a reccy first.

Conor:

SouthEastCashew:
Completely banned at my place. Given a map of the place we are delivering to with directions at the side. Really isn’t rocket science to use a map combined with a truckers atlas for the low bridges and weight limits etc. I think a lot of drivers only use sat navs because they are there but if there was no such thing no one would have a choice but to simply crack on.

I wonder what would happen if you had an accident because you were trying to follow a paper map at the same time as driving through the city.

A lot of drivers use Satnavs because they’re infinitely more safer to use, safer to follow and cover far more areas with far more up to date information than paper maps ever can.

Just shows your complete lack of understanding then doesn’t it. Your no driver, you are simply a satnav follower. Should have tried driving in the days before satnavs, You say it is dangerous trying to follow a paper map whilst driving, your a fruit cake. You look at a satnav to find your way and talk on your phone at the same time no doubt. It is unquestionable sat navs have a good use, not in the way you are suggesting though. You know nothing, you have proved that with your silly statement.

UKtramp:

Conor:
I wonder what would happen if you had an accident because you were trying to follow a paper map at the same time as driving through the city.

A lot of drivers use Satnavs because they’re infinitely more safer to use, safer to follow and cover far more areas with far more up to date information than paper maps ever can.

Just shows your complete lack of understanding then doesn’t it. Your no driver, you are simply a satnav follower. Should have tried driving in the days before satnavs, You say it is dangerous trying to follow a paper map whilst driving, your a fruit cake. You look at a satnav to find your way and talk on your phone at the same time no doubt. It is unquestionable sat navs have a good use, not in the way you are suggesting though. You know nothing, you have proved that with your silly statement.

Were you even around before sat nav
We all though you were a fridge mechanic before you were a truck driver ps that’s if your evan a truck driver
One is doing a great job of trying to imitate dozy but you should be yourself and not try to be a fantasy to yourself
As dosy 2 it’s not going well

nightline:

UKtramp:

Conor:
I wonder what would happen if you had an accident because you were trying to follow a paper map at the same time as driving through the city.

A lot of drivers use Satnavs because they’re infinitely more safer to use, safer to follow and cover far more areas with far more up to date information than paper maps ever can.

Just shows your complete lack of understanding then doesn’t it. Your no driver, you are simply a satnav follower. Should have tried driving in the days before satnavs, You say it is dangerous trying to follow a paper map whilst driving, your a fruit cake. You look at a satnav to find your way and talk on your phone at the same time no doubt. It is unquestionable sat navs have a good use, not in the way you are suggesting though. You know nothing, you have proved that with your silly statement.

Were you even around before sat nav
We all though you were a fridge mechanic before you were a truck driver ps that’s if your evan a truck driver
One is doing a great job of trying to imitate dozy but you should be yourself and not try to be a fantasy to yourself
As dosy 2 it’s not going well

A fridge mechanic? What the hell is one of those.

nightline:

UKtramp:

Conor:
I wonder what would happen if you had an accident because you were trying to follow a paper map at the same time as driving through the city.

A lot of drivers use Satnavs because they’re infinitely more safer to use, safer to follow and cover far more areas with far more up to date information than paper maps ever can.

Just shows your complete lack of understanding then doesn’t it. Your no driver, you are simply a satnav follower. Should have tried driving in the days before satnavs, You say it is dangerous trying to follow a paper map whilst driving, your a fruit cake. You look at a satnav to find your way and talk on your phone at the same time no doubt. It is unquestionable sat navs have a good use, not in the way you are suggesting though. You know nothing, you have proved that with your silly statement.

Were you even around before sat nav
We all though you were a fridge mechanic before you were a truck driver ps that’s if your evan a truck driver
One is doing a great job of trying to imitate dozy but you should be yourself and not try to be a fantasy to yourself
As dosy 2 it’s not going well

I am sorry but you are getting a little too weird for me now. Guess where you are going. Bye bye & get well soon.

UKtramp:

nightline:

UKtramp:

Conor:
I wonder what would happen if you had an accident because you were trying to follow a paper map at the same time as driving through the city.

A lot of drivers use Satnavs because they’re infinitely more safer to use, safer to follow and cover far more areas with far more up to date information than paper maps ever can.

Just shows your complete lack of understanding then doesn’t it. Your no driver, you are simply a satnav follower. Should have tried driving in the days before satnavs, You say it is dangerous trying to follow a paper map whilst driving, your a fruit cake. You look at a satnav to find your way and talk on your phone at the same time no doubt. It is unquestionable sat navs have a good use, not in the way you are suggesting though. You know nothing, you have proved that with your silly statement.

Were you even around before sat nav
We all though you were a fridge mechanic before you were a truck driver ps that’s if your evan a truck driver
One is doing a great job of trying to imitate dozy but you should be yourself and not try to be a fantasy to yourself
As dosy 2 it’s not going well

A fridge mechanic? What the hell is one of those.

It’s someone who Mechanic’s fridges

Christ you’ve got to wonder , they cause me dozy , but I’ve got enough sense to plan ahead and buy 2 sat navs just in case one breaks down

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