Wouldn’t it be great if they increased the maximum lenght of a wagon by 5 feet but only the cab, trailers had to stay the same lenght, we could all have decent living conditions like in a Scania longline etc…
How brilliant would that be■■?
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Rikki-UK:
billybigrig:
“Tinks, it’s Rikki. They aren’t swallowing it mate, time for plan B. By the way how are my shares doing ■■”
not sure your point mate - but our shares are doing fine. Unsure why I would need a plan B… cos plan A is doing pretty ■■■■ good and has done for over 10 years- sorry to disapoint you
WhoooooooooossHH
royal mail have these trailers in double deck form … 
dlote2009:
they’re not the only ones to be using them. I think boots have some too.
Asda have a few up at Falkirk, not sure about other depots, i spoke to one of their drivers who said they can’t use them for some stores, and they have had one or two mis-haps with cars and traffic islands on tight junctions… So probably spending loads of money on repairs and claims instead of saving money and the environment…
Lorn trakta:
sammy:
Wouldn’t it be great if they increased the maximum lenght of a wagon by 5 feet but only the cab, trailers had to stay the same lenght, we could all have decent living conditions like in a Scania longline etc…
How brilliant would that be■■?I can ‘see’ the scene now, you in a tractor/trailer with that ‘longline’ cab being booked for being ‘overlength’, sitting next to an identical length artic that isn’t ‘overlength’.
Surely if they increase the overall legal length then you could run a longline with a standard size trailer legally, that would be nice but then why would the likes of ESL put driver comfort before profits …
That’s the problem when ever an increase in lenght is ok’d they make the trailer longer, that’s why the industry is in need of a good professional drivers association to lobby the powers that be to allow longer units instead of trailers.
My Dad sometime’s goes into the morrison’s depot at wakefield and they have a few 15.6m in their as well and didnt wincanton have these for a while am sure i seen it in trucking mag last year 
I was suprised that he reversed with the sterring axle active.
Last time I drove a rear steer we locked the wheels before reversing.
Of course it helped if you locked them off when they were straight 
SYE-1:
royal mail have these trailers in double deck form …
Seems to be the way forward.
Anyone used one of these yet?
Dairy producer Arla Foods has unveiled a new dual-purpose trailer to help eliminate empty running.
The combination unit, constructed by Gray & Adams and Crossland Tankers, features a 19,000 litre milk tank with a refrigerated area above that can accommodate 85 milk cages or 22 pallets.
The 12.2m long trailer, which Arla is using to deliver finished product from its Stourton transport hub to stores and regional DCs and collect raw milk from farms on the way back, is around 30cm taller than a conventional reefer trailer.
It also incorporates low-profile running gear as well as a lowered, step-frame section on the bottom deck. It is expected to cover around 160,000km a year.
The concept is still being evaluated but Arla has revealed that it wants to put 30 combination trailers onto UK roads by the end of next year and says it is “sufficiently confident” in the benefits to be progressing with orders for further trailers from the same two suppliers already.
“The new trailer is just one of many solutions we are delivering to ensure our carbon output and costs are as low as possible,” said Arla vice-president of logistics, Paul Lloyd.
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That’s the baby trailor RM call that one the 75 Double Decker , they then have the 92 DD with out the swan neck , the 98 DD and the new 110 DD with rear steer, think its 55 foot long and 16.6 high ill take a pic later when I’m back in the yard …
SYE-1:
^^^^^^^That’s the baby trailor RM call that one the 75 Double Decker , they then have the 92 DD with out the swan neck , the 98 DD and the new 110 DD with rear steer, think its 55 foot long and 16.6 high ill take a pic later when I’m back in the yard …
16’2" high
jf1970:
its a 10 year trial.1000 licences approved for the trailers to be used on uk roads.
That is correct, up to now there have been 905 licences issued for the 15.65 metre trailers to companies such as ARLA Acumen and ASDA. Bibby, Booker and ■■■■. Downton, DHL, and DFDS.
Royal Mail, Downton and Asda along with Norbert Dentreesangle are the biggest user and hold the most licences
Stobart have only 23 licences for the longer 15.65 trailer, although they do have 71 for the shorter 14.6 trailers.
Even the ELV has to work within the current EU 12.5m x 5.3m turning circle.
kemaro:
Lorn trakta:
sammy:
Wouldn’t it be great if they increased the maximum lenght of a wagon by 5 feet but only the cab, trailers had to stay the same lenght, we could all have decent living conditions like in a Scania longline etc…
How brilliant would that be■■?I can ‘see’ the scene now, you in a tractor/trailer with that ‘longline’ cab being booked for being ‘overlength’, sitting next to an identical length artic that isn’t ‘overlength’.
Surely if they increase the overall legal length then you could run a longline with a standard size trailer legally, that would be nice but then why would the likes of ESL put driver comfort before profits …
Because It’s easier to pay bills with profits!!
As Mr Stobart seems to be telling the whole of the uk and maybe the world how good his company and drivers are through the magic of television thought i would just use this very sharp pin i have in my hand to burst his balloon before he blows it up next it will be stobarts now have trailers with air operated legs wincanton had them since the early eightes or late seventies it must have been a long time ago when i did a bit for them in uttoxeter it said St-Ivel on the side of the trailers and they were dark blue in colour 
Soldier z:
I was suprised that he reversed with the sterring axle active.
Last time I drove a rear steer we locked the wheels before reversing.
Of course it helped if you locked them off when they were straightSYE-1:
royal mail have these trailers in double deck form …Seems to be the way forward.
Anyone used one of these yet?
Dairy producer Arla Foods has unveiled a new dual-purpose trailer to help eliminate empty running.
The combination unit, constructed by Gray & Adams and Crossland Tankers, features a 19,000 litre milk tank with a refrigerated area above that can accommodate 85 milk cages or 22 pallets.
The 12.2m long trailer, which Arla is using to deliver finished product from its Stourton transport hub to stores and regional DCs and collect raw milk from farms on the way back, is around 30cm taller than a conventional reefer trailer.
It also incorporates low-profile running gear as well as a lowered, step-frame section on the bottom deck. It is expected to cover around 160,000km a year.
The concept is still being evaluated but Arla has revealed that it wants to put 30 combination trailers onto UK roads by the end of next year and says it is “sufficiently confident” in the benefits to be progressing with orders for further trailers from the same two suppliers already.
“The new trailer is just one of many solutions we are delivering to ensure our carbon output and costs are as low as possible,” said Arla vice-president of logistics, Paul Lloyd.
Those where great fun when they where trailed.
Delivering less than an ordinary fridge, it means two lorries are needed to deliver one full load. Backloading by collecting milk from farms?? Wahahahahahaaa… They can only go to a few farms, as access is not good with a tall trailer.
They get used as truckers. A standard barrel will carry around 27500 to 28500 liters. These jokes carry about 18000. At full weight.
A prime example of a ■■■ in an office, with no on the job experience, coming up with a stupid idea, that sounds good in the PR department.
fdm:
Soldier z:
I was suprised that he reversed with the sterring axle active.
Last time I drove a rear steer we locked the wheels before reversing.
Of course it helped if you locked them off when they were straightSYE-1:
royal mail have these trailers in double deck form …Seems to be the way forward.
Anyone used one of these yet?
Dairy producer Arla Foods has unveiled a new dual-purpose trailer to help eliminate empty running.
The combination unit, constructed by Gray & Adams and Crossland Tankers, features a 19,000 litre milk tank with a refrigerated area above that can accommodate 85 milk cages or 22 pallets.
The 12.2m long trailer, which Arla is using to deliver finished product from its Stourton transport hub to stores and regional DCs and collect raw milk from farms on the way back, is around 30cm taller than a conventional reefer trailer.
It also incorporates low-profile running gear as well as a lowered, step-frame section on the bottom deck. It is expected to cover around 160,000km a year.
The concept is still being evaluated but Arla has revealed that it wants to put 30 combination trailers onto UK roads by the end of next year and says it is “sufficiently confident” in the benefits to be progressing with orders for further trailers from the same two suppliers already.
“The new trailer is just one of many solutions we are delivering to ensure our carbon output and costs are as low as possible,” said Arla vice-president of logistics, Paul Lloyd.
Those where great fun when they where trailed.
Delivering less than an ordinary fridge, it means two lorries are needed to deliver one full load. Backloading by collecting milk from farms?? Wahahahahahaaa… They can only go to a few farms, as access is not good with a tall trailer.
They get used as truckers. A standard barrel will carry around 27500 to 28500 liters. These jokes carry about 18000. At full weight.A prime example of a ■■■ in an office, with no on the job experience, coming up with a stupid idea, that sounds good in the PR department.
The concept would work for a distance run, say for a small dairy rather than someone like Arla who have depots all over, so never really have to go that far.
The Arla drivers I used to talk to at PCL in Avonmouth said they were alright to drive, which surprised me a bit, I thought they’d be a pig with the weight up top. (cages with empty tank)
waynedl:
fdm:
Soldier z:
I was suprised that he reversed with the sterring axle active.
Last time I drove a rear steer we locked the wheels before reversing.
Of course it helped if you locked them off when they were straightSYE-1:
royal mail have these trailers in double deck form …Seems to be the way forward.
Anyone used one of these yet?
Dairy producer Arla Foods has unveiled a new dual-purpose trailer to help eliminate empty running.
The combination unit, constructed by Gray & Adams and Crossland Tankers, features a 19,000 litre milk tank with a refrigerated area above that can accommodate 85 milk cages or 22 pallets.
The 12.2m long trailer, which Arla is using to deliver finished product from its Stourton transport hub to stores and regional DCs and collect raw milk from farms on the way back, is around 30cm taller than a conventional reefer trailer.
It also incorporates low-profile running gear as well as a lowered, step-frame section on the bottom deck. It is expected to cover around 160,000km a year.
The concept is still being evaluated but Arla has revealed that it wants to put 30 combination trailers onto UK roads by the end of next year and says it is “sufficiently confident” in the benefits to be progressing with orders for further trailers from the same two suppliers already.
“The new trailer is just one of many solutions we are delivering to ensure our carbon output and costs are as low as possible,” said Arla vice-president of logistics, Paul Lloyd.
Those where great fun when they where trailed.
Delivering less than an ordinary fridge, it means two lorries are needed to deliver one full load. Backloading by collecting milk from farms?? Wahahahahahaaa… They can only go to a few farms, as access is not good with a tall trailer.
They get used as truckers. A standard barrel will carry around 27500 to 28500 liters. These jokes carry about 18000. At full weight.A prime example of a ■■■ in an office, with no on the job experience, coming up with a stupid idea, that sounds good in the PR department.
The concept would work for a distance run, say for a small dairy rather than someone like Arla who have depots all over, so never really have to go that far.
The Arla drivers I used to talk to at PCL in Avonmouth said they were alright to drive, which surprised me a bit, I thought they’d be a pig with the weight up top. (cages with empty tank)
The weight up top is balanced by the weight of the stainless steel barrel, pipework, and pumps etc, that is carried below. If it only carries 17000 liters, it must tare around 24000 kg… Not bad for a trunking combo.
Rikki-UK:
Kemaro… the lads doing steel have been running 50; 55 and 60 foot flats (not trombones but rigid trailers) for many years and perfectly legally loading them back with loads that cube out before hitting GVW. Obviously gaining a advantage- I dont see that they have put other flat trailer hauliers out of business
I used to work for Stevens in the 70s and quite often would back load Tractors from Tilbury & Coventry on 60 ft trailers.