Quote a lot of companies have applied to run them on the trial, but remember the program isn’t about serious transport issues that effect us, it’s to entertain the general public.
If they called them longer trailers then in their mind the means bigger and heavier nasty trucks.
call them Eddie Stobart Enviro trailers and it means nice eco friendly Eddie Stobart Trialer saving the planet and delivering the goods.
To help our public image I think we should rename trucks Eddies, and call truck driving Eddie Stobarting.
We’d see less weight limits, and find Nimby’s chasing us off By passes so we could drive through their lovely village and have our photo’s taken. I reckon even the people of Bath would want us to drive over that Bridge.
Its not a trial, they may say its a trial but its just a way of easing them onto the roads so as to avoid public upheavil. When everybody starts buying them after the 2 years when they are given the official go ahead then the public will be asking where these trailers have come from, they will be told well theyve been around for 2 years on trials. Thats the real reason they haven’t been instantly flooded onto the market. Also do you really think these trailer companys will build / and then sell or lease a brand new trailer knowing that it might have to be stripped after 2 years ? No chance !
I like the green tag on the side that they’re using to sell this to Joe Public. Like we really believe these large companies spent a fortune lobbying government because they’re worried about a few Polar Bears.
muckles:
I like the green tag on the side that they’re using to sell this to Joe Public. Like we really believe these large companies spent a fortune lobbying government because they’re worried about a few Polar Bears.
We’re dragged through the bull[zb] that we have to pay £68guzillion in fuel tax, road tax, landfill tax, carrier bag tax, tax tax etc to save the polar bears, so it’s all along the same vein really. When all around you are bull[zb]ing, why not add your own!
I still think they have ■■■■■■ up on that rear steer axle, I would have thought it would have worked better to have fixed axles the same distance from the rear like we have now and just have more “cut in” from the trailer, that tail swing is bollox.
FarnboroughBoy11:
I still think they have [zb] up on that rear steer axle, I would have thought it would have worked better to have fixed axles the same distance from the rear like we have now and just have more “cut in” from the trailer, that tail swing is bollox.
I think the steering axles is how they got it through the turning radius regulations. Which states the inner and out radius the truck must be within.
If you’ve ever driven a 45ft trailer with the axles right at the back you’ll know what a nightmare the cut in can be, but at least when did I didn’t have to worry about leaving room for the tail swing as well.
IIRC there was two types of trailer in the trail wasn’t there? The first one (with the 3 axles equally spaced and 2 steers) was the longest one, the second trailer (with a pair of axles and the last one set back, and only 1 steer) was a slightly shorter one.
dew:
IIRC there was two types of trailer in the trail wasn’t there? The first one (with the 3 axles equally spaced and 2 steers) was the longest one, the second trailer (with a pair of axles and the last one set back, and only 1 steer) was a slightly shorter one.
Correct there is 2+1 with the two being close together and the 1 being a trailing axle the 2nd one he had, - and the one that was first shown with 3 equally spaced axles where the back two are positively steered via the fifth wheel and hydraulics the first offers higher weight load the second is far more manouverable and better weight distribution over the trailer bed. , - horses for courses I think the saying is.
muckles:
If you’ve ever driven a 45ft trailer with the axles right at the back you’ll know what a nightmare the cut in can be, but at least when did I didn’t have to worry about leaving room for the tail swing as well.
We had an old King extendable stepframe trailer like this, 2 axles right at the vey back with no tail swing.
It was a ■■■■■■■ to drive at 45 foot, let alone pulled out to 60 foot!
Try it at 100 foot - with the axles right at the rear (no overhang at all) with no steer on the rear - I have … hit every roundabout and kerb coming out of Middlesborough according the the bike cop
Even though it meets the EU turning radius tests looking at the on road Video, I’m sure even with the steering axle it has far more tail swing on really tight turns such as the mini roundabout that a standard 13.6m trailer.
Quote from estt " could this trailer be the envy of every lorry driver in the country?" I don’t think so , if stobart intend to run 90 of these that’s a number of drivers out of work , if more & more begin to run these how many more drivers will be out of work & before long yiu will be pulling these trailers for minimum wage if your lucky enough to have a job
Kemaro… the lads doing steel have been running 50; 55 and 60 foot flats (not trombones but rigid trailers) for many years and perfectly legally loading them back with loads that cube out before hitting GVW. Obviously gaining a advantage- I dont see that they have put other flat trailer hauliers out of business
kemaro:
Quote from estt " could this trailer be the envy of every lorry driver in the country?" I don’t think so , if stobart intend to run 90 of these that’s a number of drivers out of work , if more & more begin to run these how many more drivers will be out of work & before long yiu will be pulling these trailers for minimum wage if your lucky enough to have a job
I do wonder how many drivers will lose their jobs because of these trailers?
We’ve gone from 12m trailer to 13.6m trailers,
from 32 to 38 to 40 then 44 tonnes and seen the rise of the Double Decker.
but from my experience in this time most drivers have lost their jobs due to cycles in the economy than any particular changes in the haulage industry.
