Wally Beer died December 2008 RIP
hi all,
Another excellent trip to south east belgium and the ciney truckshow.this is easily my favourite show of the year.
pete 359:
smallcoal:
pete 359:
Hi all,
I have been in contact lately with a former J&M subbie whom Iāve known for around 40 years,David Beer.Heāis putting together a J&M transport reunion it is open to any ex J&M drivers,shunters,subbies and fitters.the provisional date is 19/05/17 at the broadlands pub in Bridgend.Any ex J&M staff interested in attending either contact myself or david.beer@btinternet.com
Regards andrew.Hi Andrew is he a relation of wally beer joints shunter cheers John
Hi john,
david is wallyās son.i first remember him subbing to j&m with his atki borderer when i was a kid.this reunion is all his idea and a very good one imo.
regards andrew.
Andrew, Last time I heard of Dai Beer I am sure he was with Meachers at Pirelli cables Aberdare where is he now ?
Ianto full pelt:
pete 359:
smallcoal:
pete 359:
Hi all,
I have been in contact lately with a former J&M subbie whom Iāve known for around 40 years,David Beer.Heāis putting together a J&M transport reunion it is open to any ex J&M drivers,shunters,subbies and fitters.the provisional date is 19/05/17 at the broadlands pub in Bridgend.Any ex J&M staff interested in attending either contact myself or david.beer@btinternet.com
Regards andrew.Hi Andrew is he a relation of wally beer joints shunter cheers John
Hi john,
david is wallyās son.i first remember him subbing to j&m with his atki borderer when i was a kid.this reunion is all his idea and a very good one imo.
regards andrew.Andrew, Last time I heard of Dai Beer I am sure he was with Meachers at Pirelli cables Aberdare where is he now ?
Hi,
I think heās a member on here? E142.that was the start of the registration of the second new F10ā he had at John Raymond transport.
Regards andrew.
Hi all. Andrew nice photoās from the show. W.H.Malcoms Scania looks spot on. They have a nice collection of trucks.
Regards Paul.
E142:
Wally Beer died December 2008 RIP
Wally,s son Dai would not know me but i am sure he had a F12 light blue volvo back in the 80,s.
Remember him talking to my late dad while the F12 was on the pit at the Brs workshops.
scania81,
Did your dad`s family come from Nantymoel, if so I knew him well ? I did try and send you a personal message on this subject some time ago.
As there are 633 pages on this thread and as I havenāt bothered to trawl through them all, itās quite possible that Grounds may have been mentioned on here previously. If not, then hereās a photo of one of their motors. Taken on Barry dock in about 1970, loading bananas off one of the Geest boats. One of Geestās insulated containers can be seen up at the headboard. These came in 8ft. and 10ft sizes, although it isnāt possible to distinguish the size of the box in this shot. There were no facilities for weighing that we were made aware of, so we never knew what weight we were grossing off at, but with a 150 Gardner, they seemed bloody heavy, particularly coming up Monmouth bank with a headwind. Also, I recall there used to be a low railway bridge about a mile or so outside the dock on the way back to Cardiff. We could just about scrape under it when loaded, but had to take the scenic route when empty, round by, was it Sully?
Eddie Heaton:
As there are 633 pages on this thread and as I havenāt bothered to trawl through them all, itās quite possible that Grounds may have been mentioned on here previously. If not, then hereās a photo of one of their motors. Taken on Barry dock in about 1970, loading bananas off one of the Geest boats. One of Geestās insulated containers can be seen up at the headboard. These came in 8ft. and 10ft sizes, although it isnāt possible to distinguish the size of the box in this shot. There were no facilities for weighing that we were made aware of, so we never knew what weight we were grossing off at, but with a 150 Gardner, they seemed bloody heavy, particularly coming up Monmouth bank with a headwind. Also, I recall there used to be a low railway bridge about a mile or so outside the dock on the way back to Cardiff. We could just about scrape under it when loaded, but had to take the scenic route when empty, round by, was it Sully?
We used to load palletised bananas out of Barry for Glasgow on Pritchettās didnāt we Eddie. Is it a false memory, or did they blow hot air into the back first? It would have been cold again by Cardiff anyway! I donāt remember the low bridge, but the Pritchett trailers were quite high so we probably just went round anyway. Got to say, I always preferred Dunlopillo from Hirwaun for Ford at Halewood, the M5 always seemed uphill all the way to Birmingham, and the bananas were hard work with the Mastiff.
John.
Oddly enough John, I never actually carried any bananas when I was driving for Pritchettās, although I loaded out of Dunlopillo at Hirwaun on quite a number of occasions, before Pritchettās opened their depot down near the transporter bridge in Newport.
I was working for Trevalan when we were doing the banana job and we used to run down from St Helens with either 4x10ft. boxes or 5x8ft. ones. No twistlocks, just a rope cross over the back box.
We used to stay at Mrs. Stoneās, a few hundred yards up from the dock gate. She was a small pleasant old girl, and every time we walked in, she would shout " Hello boys, would you like something with chips ?". It was always chips. Egg and chips, spam and chips, egg spam and chips, sausage and chips. I never had the nerve to say I didnāt want chips, so Iāll never know what culinary delights she was capable of producing.
We had to be down on the dock for 0730 when they started unloading the boat, but it quite often got to 1600 or later before the shout went up " Trevallian, ( the old Welsh ganger could never get the name right ) Trevallian, get your doors orf "
We would then pull alongside a wooden staging where two blokes with a large box spanner would remove the doors. We then had to run back round to the loading area. The stems of bananas, loosely wrapped in a polythene sleeve, would come up out of the hold on a kind of endless belt and the dockers would handball them into the insulated boxes. I wish Iād had the foresight at the time to take a few photos, but like yourself, I missed the opportunity.
While the loading was taking place, we would sit in the cab, watching the various species of exotic fauna scuttling along the wooden staging at head height. Snakes, locusts, several varieties of brightly coloured beetles with far more legs than I suspect they actually needed. I always made a point of keeping the windows firmly shut.
When the loading was completed, around 30 minutes later, it was back down to get the doors fitted, then out into the rush hour traffic in the middle of Cardiff. On more than one occasion it would be 2200 before we arrived back in St. Helens.
Loading out of Preston dock was much handier, although you were expected to do two loads in the day. But my all time favourite was when the Geest boats used to come into Barrow. One trip in the day, through pleasant countryside, even though the road at the time was crap.
All that said, Iād go back to the job tomorrow, if the job was as it used to be.
Cheers. Eddie.
Eddie Heaton:
As there are 633 pages on this thread and as I havenāt bothered to trawl through them all, itās quite possible that Grounds may have been mentioned on here previously. If not, then hereās a photo of one of their motors. Taken on Barry dock in about 1970, loading bananas off one of the Geest boats. One of Geestās insulated containers can be seen up at the headboard. These came in 8ft. and 10ft sizes, although it isnāt possible to distinguish the size of the box in this shot. There were no facilities for weighing that we were made aware of, so we never knew what weight we were grossing off at, but with a 150 Gardner, they seemed bloody heavy, particularly coming up Monmouth bank with a headwind. Also, I recall there used to be a low railway bridge about a mile or so outside the dock on the way back to Cardiff. We could just about scrape under it when loaded, but had to take the scenic route when empty, round by, was it Sully?
Hi Eddie,
Thanks for your picture.in my lifetime,I personally can never recall seeing or even heard the mention of Grounds Transport Group of Swansea.i think itās fair to say thatās the first time theyāve been mentioned on our thread.ive certainly learned something new there,thanks again.
Regards Andrew.
E142:
scania81,Did your dad`s family come from Nantymoel, if so I knew him well ? I did try and send you a personal message on this subject some time ago.
Hi e142 did you work for raymonds I did in 94 I had e143 cheers John
E142:
scania81,Did your dad`s family come from Nantymoel, if so I knew him well ? I did try and send you a personal message on this subject some time ago.
Yes my dads family were from Nantymoel,his brother told me the other week he followed him in a Ricketts motor all the way to Eltham in is mini over night.There was a creamery around the corner and very handy for the wrecker to give a jump start.
He was brought up with Windsor Gammon who drove for Raymonds in the early days and went on to run Court Garage.
smallcoal:
E142:
scania81, M
Hi e142 did you work for raymonds I did in 94 I had e143 cheers John
Hi John
I worked at JRT from March 1984 to March 1998;
I had one of the first three Volvo F10S bought by JRT did not go down to well, new driver new Volvo !! B589CEP Bernard Lewis, JRTs second longest serving driver after Terry Hughes
B590CEP was mine, returned to Griffin Mill Volvo after 18 months and went on for a second life with SK LTD Barry
B691CEP Steve Everitt.
Then after 18 months I had E142, Bernard Lewis E141. I cannot remember who had E143, it was some buy back deal that GM Volvo had with JRT.
regards
scania81:
E142:
scania81,Did your dad`s family come from Nantymoel, if so I knew him well ? I did try and send you a personal message on this subject some time ago.
Yes my dads family were from Nantymoel,his brother told me the other week he followed him in a Ricketts motor all the way to Eltham in is mini over night.There was a creamery around the corner and very handy for the wrecker to give a jump start.
He was brought up with Windsor Gammon who drove for Raymonds in the early days and went on to run Court Garage.
Hi scania81, the Windsor Gammon name I am not aware of and it does not fit in with my recollections, if you drop me an email with a phone number and the best time to call you, we can discuss it.
regards
E142:
smallcoal:
E142:
scania81, M
Hi e142 did you work for raymonds I did in 94 I had e143 cheers JohnHi John
I worked at JRT from March 1984 to March 1998;
I had one of the first three Volvo F10S bought by JRT did not go down to well, new driver new Volvo !! B589CEP Bernard Lewis, JRTs second longest serving driver after Terry Hughes
B590CEP was mine, returned to Griffin Mill Volvo after 18 months and went on for a second life with SK LTD Barry
B691CEP Steve Everitt.Then after 18 months I had E142, Bernard Lewis E141. I cannot remember who had E143, it was some buy back deal that GM Volvo had with JRT.
regards
Did Marsden Harman drive 140
HI Neil, Rowlyās tilt looking nice. Is it the Transcon that it will be hooked up to?
Thanks for the update.
Paul
Double post!
Hi Paul they are finishing it of today so Iām picking up tonight then bits and pieces to complete it not sure wat will pull it I havenāt end started Transcon yet but Iām pleased with outcome of tilt and while Iām on here a big thanks to gardener 240 for selling it to me all the best Paul regards rowly