That is confusing! It does say on pages 32, 33 & 34 that “Entry takes place in local time”.
I can imagine that being quite a problem when you’ve got a mixture of both. I wish they’d pick a system and stick with it! 
grumpybum:
That is confusing! It does say on pages 32, 33 & 34 that “Entry takes place in local time”.I can imagine that being quite a problem when you’ve got a mixture of both. I wish they’d pick a system and stick with it!
Agreed. The goal posts have just moved again and this time they have kept it quiet!
The DTCO 1381 saves all time entries for working time, availability time, driving time, rest time, etc, in UTC time.
Page 80.
I imagine that means it is just the same as what we already have. (UTC is GMT)
If it recorded in local time, it would be a disadvantage to international hauliers.
Start in Derby and drive to Manchester. Manchester to Dover. Dover to Calais
Local time would nick an hour off you as you crossed the linkspan in France.
I imagine what it actually means is that although the display is set at local time, the internal computer is still using UTC and by the miracle of technology can convert local time to UTC without our intervention.
The rules we have to work with are the same as the tachograph manufacturers and these are the rules regarding time;
UTC — the time set on a digital tachograph
The internal clock of a digital tachograph is set to Universal Time Co-ordinated (UTC). The time
displayed on the clock face can be set by the driver either to local time or to UTC. However, all data
will be recorded by the VU on the time set by the integral clock, which operates on UTC — this is the
same as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). You will need to remember that UTC is one hour behind British
Summer Time (BST). So, between 01.00 on the last Sunday in March and 01.00 on the last Sunday in October drivers must account for the difference when manually inputting activity details in the digital tachograph.
For example, if drivers carried out other work for two hours between 06.00 and 08.00 in June before
taking over the vehicle, they must enter this as between 05.00 and 07.00 in UTC time. As mentioned
above, it is possible for drivers to set the display time on the VU to local BST, but this will not prevent
the VU recording in UTC. Therefore, it is recommended that drivers leave the display time in UTC as
a reminder of the difference.
I think it saves drivers having to do the bit in red.
delboytwo:
Bones:
Hello All,Righto we have started to get some replacement heads fitted to vehicles when the original head fails. However they are fitting the new release 1.4 heads. now on first glance they are exactly the same but there a few differences.
The main difference to me appears to be around manual entries and then the “most activity in a minute” recording.
I have a “guide” from Siemens on how to do manual entries on the new heads but its not the easiest to follow with a “?” symbol now thrown into the mix. Also all manual entries are now to be made in Local time and not UTC.
So. Does anyone have an easy to understand guide for the manual entries and becasue at work we have some vehicles with old head and some with new do i need to put some entries in on UTC (old heads) and some in local (new heads)
Hi mate i think the “?” make you refer to is cos its asking you to make a choice, ie yes or no or which country you want things like that
In the manual, the “?” pictogram means “Unknown”
Wheel Nut:
delboytwo:
Hi mate i think the “?” make you refer to is cos its asking you to make a choice, ie yes or no or which country you want things like thatIn the manual, the “?” pictogram means “Unknown”
Just as it does with the current VU, it’s on every 24-hour printout where the card has been removed between shifts.
Quite why you would need to make a manual entry as unknown I don’t know, as you would surely know, unlike the VU, what you had been doing during that period.