Todays, Buzzer
Buzzer, Good morning
Interesting to see the photo of the Middleton Atki and Alick Archer trailer.
Archers are based at Leintwardine near Craven Arms in Shropshire and are still operating.
I remember back in the seventies they ran two Scania’s on steel to the Midlands from Port Talbot with a shunter based there. The drivers of the Scania’s are still with us though obviously long retired.
Great memories, thanks Allan
Buzzer:
Wednesdays, Buzzer
Is this truck just an Atkinson-badged Iveco, or an Iveco-cabbed Atkinson? Thanks.
Froggy55:
Buzzer:
Wednesdays, Buzzer
0Is this truck just an Atkinson-badged Iveco, or an Iveco-cabbed Atkinson? Thanks.
SA had been taken over by then but these usually had a ■■■■■■■ engine and an Eaton-Twinsplitter constant-mesh 'box.
ERF-NGC-European:
Froggy55:
Buzzer:
Wednesdays, Buzzer
0Is this truck just an Atkinson-badged Iveco, or an Iveco-cabbed Atkinson? Thanks.
SA had been taken over by then but these usually had a ■■■■■■■ engine and an Eaton-Twinsplitter constant-mesh 'box.
Where were they assembled?
International sold Seddon Atkinson to the ENASA Group in 1983 and why the Strato model had the same Cabtec design as the Pegaso and DAF also an ENASA acquisition. 1986 saw the merge of Iveco and Ford UK Truck Division and in 1992 Iveco added ENASA to its list of takeovers hence the cab which they named the MP (Multi Purpose). The Trakker model was built at the Seddon Atkinson factory. UK truck production was phased out in 1997 with Iveco being the major shareholder. Franky.
Geordielad:
International sold Seddon Atkinson to the ENASA Group in 1983 and why the Strato model had the same Cabtec design as the Pegaso and DAF also an ENASA acquisition. 1986 saw the merge of Iveco and Ford UK Truck Division and in 1992 Iveco added ENASA to its list of takeovers hence the cab which they named the MP (Multi Purpose). The Trakker model was built at the Seddon Atkinson factory. UK truck production was phased out in 1997 with Iveco being the major shareholder. Franky.
Thanks! I had forgotten the ENASA takeover of Atkinson.
Geordielad:
International sold Seddon Atkinson to the ENASA Group in 1983 and why the Strato model had the same Cabtec design as the Pegaso and DAF also an ENASA acquisition. 1986 saw the merge of Iveco and Ford UK Truck Division and in 1992 Iveco added ENASA to its list of takeovers hence the cab which they named the MP (Multi Purpose). The Trakker model was built at the Seddon Atkinson factory. UK truck production was phased out in 1997 with Iveco being the major shareholder. Franky.
I had forgotten about Inter owning SedAk but where did Paccar come in? They own Daf now, don’t they?
Paccar comes from the Pacific Car and Foundry Company. It entered the heavy truck market in 1945 by acquiring Kenworth Motor Truck Company of Seattle. Then in 1958 Peterbilt Trucks. Paccar would be behind the operations of Kenworth and Peterbilt worldwide from the 60’s. Pacific Car and Foundry decided to use the PACCAR Inc name in 1972 and in 1996 it took over DAF Trucks then Leyland Trucks 1998, already Leyland being a part of DAF and DAF in ENASA after International had a stake in the Spanish group. Hence the Cabtec range being used by DAF on the 95, Seddon on the Strato and Pegaso with the Troner. 1980 had seen the take over of Foden by PACCAR renaming Foden the Sandbach Engineering Company although the Foden name was reinstated in 1983 as Foden Trucks (notice the US Truck word being used much more now with UK old companies they had gained and why it seems to be used much more today by most in the industry, apart from us old gits!) So there we have the links between Europe and the US involving UK ‘Lorry’ manufacturers and which eventually they dropped leaving us with no real goods manufacturing in the UK today. A lot more ins and outs than explained here but I’m sure you get the gist. Franky.
Geordielad:
Paccar comes from the Pacific Car and Foundry Company. It entered the heavy truck market in 1945 by acquiring Kenworth Motor Truck Company of Seattle. Then in 1958 Peterbilt Trucks. Paccar would be behind the operations of Kenworth and Peterbilt worldwide from the 60’s. Pacific Car and Foundry decided to use the PACCAR Inc name in 1972 and in 1996 it took over DAF Trucks then Leyland Trucks 1998, already Leyland being a part of DAF and DAF in ENASA after International had a stake in the Spanish group. Hence the Cabtec range being used by DAF on the 95, Seddon on the Strato and Pegaso with the Troner. 1980 had seen the take over of Foden by PACCAR renaming Foden the Sandbach Engineering Company although the Foden name was reinstated in 1983 as Foden Trucks (notice the US Truck word being used much more now with UK old companies they had gained and why it seems to be used much more today by most in the industry, apart from us old gits!) So there we have the links between Europe and the US involving UK ‘Lorry’ manufacturers and which eventually they dropped leaving us with no real goods manufacturing in the UK today. A lot more ins and outs than explained here but I’m sure you get the gist. Franky.
Thanks Franky, I knew all of that but not the timeline. I too, as an old git, resisted the Truck word for many years and was not pleased with the publishers of a certain magazine who adopted it for their new creation some years back. However, I did a bit of delving and discovered that it is indeed an old English word that we had moved on from and, along with many old English words and usages (such as the use of ‘got’ and ‘gotten’ though we are quite happy with ‘forgotten’), travelled across the Atlantic and then bounced back again to us, so I am, relatively, attuned to it now. But I never call myself a trucker, always a lorry driver or routier (given where I live and last worked 
), just doesn’t sound right somehow. 
On a similar note, British transport engineering and lack of, would I be right in thinking that the only British lorry left now is Dennis? Or have they gone the way of all flesh? Like Morgan, the quintessential British hand built car, now in Italian ownership I believe. 
In the motorbike world Norton and Triumph disappeared, along with all the others but then resurrected, but not sure of their status these days. A little birdie is telling me that Royal Enfield are made again, but is it in India? And are those Morris Oxfords still taxiing about New Delhi? 
Chris Webb:
Ray Smyth:
Buzzer:
Sunshine Sunday, BuzzerGreat pictures again Buzzer. I cant make out what the BRS AEC with a Suffolk number plate is loaded with.
I reckon that most of todays HGV drivers would " Throw a Wobbler " if they had to load and unload that lot.
Cheers, Ray.Loaded with boxes of flowers by the looks of it. It’s Fordham BRS near Ely and I think reverted to Turners Transport in later years.
. i read somewhere recently about a driver being fined cos his load was higher than the headboard, mibby the law has been changed ?.
Buzzer:
Ray Smyth:
The number plate, IIF 537, on the Ford Thames Trader is from Cork, Ireland. Cheers, Ray.Could have done with another colour to break it up a bit, bet paddy had a cheap load of red paint
, i never liked driving the trader, gearstick was too far back, gave me a pain in my left shoulder.
Love the Foden eight wheeler.
Hiya,
I bet I could have made the Scania Vabis and pup tramp on a bit
I bet it would have shown my Octopus and pup a clean pair of
heels, dream on Harry.
harry_gill:
Hiya,
I bet I could have made the Scania Vabis and pup tramp on a bit
I bet it would have shown my Octopus and pup a clean pair of
heels, dream on Harry.
Eyup Harry,I’ll bet you’d have swapped your Scania 80 with a drag for your Octopus and drag back. I were rayt sorry to see my Ford Transcontinental go and get a Scania 82 with a pup instead.