As i remember Bluey it was a simple splitter, but it’s near enough 40 years ago so happy to be put right if indeed it was a range change.
The 110 i had at the time had been a low loader tractor before so entirely possible it was special order box, bloody thing only did about 53mph but it would go everywhere up any hill at that speed.
The five speed scania was a splitter, and the splitter segment of the gearbox was prone to trouble.
Having said that, it was nice to use, and was still being fitted to some models well into the eighties, and maybe even later.
Carryfast:
I think you’ve got confused somewhere.It’s 6 speed range change with a splitter on each = 12 so more gears than an 8 speed not less.While 8 speed isn’t 4 more than 6 anyway.
I think he was comparing it to 4 over 4 with a splitter (16 speeds) rather than without.
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.
IndigoJo:
Carryfast:
I think you’ve got confused somewhere.It’s 6 speed range change with a splitter on each = 12 so more gears than an 8 speed not less.While 8 speed isn’t 4 more than 6 anyway.I think he was comparing it to 4 over 4 with a splitter (16 speeds) rather than without.
It was probably me who’d got confused in that case. 
That would obviously be superior to 8 speed 4 over 4 range change,which is what I thought was being described,or 12 speed 3 over 3 and splitter.In which case the 16 speed synchro in the DAF 85 etc was probably as good that configuration got.
nomiS36:
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.
It’s a long time ago but I think from memory the 112 at least was an 8 speed splitter with 9th and 10 th being two more seperate gears on the stick ?.
Carryfast:
nomiS36:
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.It’s a long time ago but I think from memory the 112 at least was an 8 speed splitter with 9th and 10 th being two more seperate gears on the stick ?.
We need somebody with a better memory than me but I’m almost certain it was a 113 320 with a normal range change gear stick but had 10 gears and not 8 like the later ones we had which were L and M regs. This was when I was working for Taylor’s of martley in the late 90’s. They were scania service agents near Worcester so nearly all the fleet was scania.
nomiS36:
Carryfast:
nomiS36:
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.It’s a long time ago but I think from memory the 112 at least was an 8 speed splitter with 9th and 10 th being two more seperate gears on the stick ?.
We need somebody with a better memory than me but I’m almost certain it was a 113 320 with a normal range change gear stick but had 10 gears and not 8 like the later ones we had which were L and M regs. This was when I was working for Taylor’s of martley in the late 90’s. They were scania service agents near Worcester so nearly all the fleet was scania.
Taylors of Martley, i remember when they used to load out of UCP Norwich late eighties/early nineties…
nomiS36:
Carryfast:
nomiS36:
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.It’s a long time ago but I think from memory the 112 at least was an 8 speed splitter with 9th and 10 th being two more seperate gears on the stick ?.
We need somebody with a better memory than me but I’m almost certain it was a 113 320 with a normal range change gear stick but had 10 gears and not 8 like the later ones we had which were L and M regs. This was when I was working for Taylor’s of martley in the late 90’s. They were scania service agents near Worcester so nearly all the fleet was scania.
Blimey I’m starting to believe in the Mandela effect.All the information I can find suggests it was a range change both in the 112 and 93.When I’d have sworn that at least one of those two had that awkward 8 speed splitter + 2 which I described. 
AndrewG:
nomiS36:
Carryfast:
nomiS36:
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.It’s a long time ago but I think from memory the 112 at least was an 8 speed splitter with 9th and 10 th being two more seperate gears on the stick ?.
We need somebody with a better memory than me but I’m almost certain it was a 113 320 with a normal range change gear stick but had 10 gears and not 8 like the later ones we had which were L and M regs. This was when I was working for Taylor’s of martley in the late 90’s. They were scania service agents near Worcester so nearly all the fleet was scania.
Taylors of Martley, i remember when they used to load out of UCP Norwich late eighties/early nineties…
I do remember going somewhere in Norwich with them but can’t remember who. All I can remember is going all the way round the ring road to the other side of town and turning left away from town.
Juddian:
As i remember Bluey it was a simple splitter, but it’s near enough 40 years ago so happy to be put right if indeed it was a range change.
The 110 i had at the time had been a low loader tractor before so entirely possible it was special order box, bloody thing only did about 53mph but it would go everywhere up any hill at that speed.
funnily enough our 110 (hbp158h) only did 53 flat out ,( except when he overtook my atki down medway bank out of stick) , and that was the 5 speed plus splitter, same as the 80. The 10 speed range change had that awkward, out of 5th hard over to the left and back for 6th which everybody ignored and went from 5th to 7th .
scania never really cracked the ‘make a good gearbox’ trick
tony
You’ve not experienced hell till you’ve driven a Renault Premium (pre Volvo) with a slapover box 
rented loads of those premium tractor units at salvesen in Northampton and the magnum all with tha box, we did have a pre production Iveco-ford cargo that managed to wedge the slap over gearbox between high and low ratios.
Carryfast:
nomiS36:
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.It’s a long time ago but I think from memory the 112 at least was an 8 speed splitter with 9th and 10 th being two more seperate gears on the stick ?.
From memory of what I drove in the early days, it was range change box in the 112s we had, 1st and 6th was away from you and back (dogleg) and reverse was away from you and forward with 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 and 10 in a H, pretty sure the the F reg 143 had the same box and the later L reg 143 had the 4 over 4 with splitter, no idea when they changed the manual box again as the next was a R reg 144 topline with 3 pedal opticruise.
You also have to remember these trucks are designed for LHD and modified for RHD, so that gear layout could make sense sat in the other seat, and I still have problems with my left shoulder from them.
weeto:
Carryfast:
nomiS36:
The 5 over 5 scanias I used were just range change in earlyish 113’s, I think they were J registered.It’s a long time ago but I think from memory the 112 at least was an 8 speed splitter with 9th and 10 th being two more seperate gears on the stick ?.
From memory of what I drove in the early days, it was range change box in the 112s we had, 1st and 6th was away from you and back (dogleg) and reverse was away from you and forward with 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 and 10 in a H
That just adds to the mystery.Bearing in mind the other references here to splitter rather than range change boxes and my memory also ( wrongly ) telling me that it was 8 speed splitter + 9th and 10th being seperate gears and nearest to the driver on the gate ( RHD ),all in the usual H pattern,it’s really difficult to explain the difference.If it is the Mandela effect my version of planet Earth was obviously a lot more logical than this one was.
Or it was as you’ve described and my sub conscious was just trying ( successfully ) to replace the madness of the Scania box with the logic of the ZF 12 speed splitter in the DAF.
weeto:
Perhaps this may jog some memories, fitted to 1 3 and early 3 series.
Even more scary.This is how I remember the shift control with the ( ‘splitter’ ) ,seemingly now range change ,with vertically sliding switch,but which I ‘thought’ I remembered was on the right of the lever,actuated by my thumb at least definitely on the 112 and,I think,not much different on the 93.
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So there we have it a much better more logical Scania gearshift design by incorrect memory and which never was.At least in this version of planet Earth.
weeto:
Perhaps this may jog some memories, fitted to 1 3 and early 3 series.
so could you split them - also there’s no crawler
Bluey Circles:
weeto:
Perhaps this may jog some memories, fitted to 1 3 and early 3 series.so could you split them - also there’s no crawler
No that’s a range change too with the weird dog leg shift pattern being described…
The Scania box was a 5spd in very early 80s and 110s and then either a 10spd splitter or range change, the splitter box was usually found in the smaller versions, 80/81/82/86/92/93 etc.
It had the gears laid out with a dog leg 1st and then a normal H pattern. Except that because of an overlap in ratios it wasn’t a conventional 1st lo/hi through to 5th lo/hi. It went 1st lo/hi, 2nd lo/hi, 3rd lo/hi, 4th lo, 5th lo, 4th hi, 5th hi.
The range change was a conventional use all the gears in low range then go around again in high range set, still with the dog leg 1st/6th gear position.
The dog leg was an awkward gear in RHD, but completely different in LHD, the Scania box was a lot slicker than the ponderous notchy alternatives from Volvo and the ZF ecosplit which I personally hated, especially in a 2800 Daf with its tight against the seat broom handle gearstick and a slap over range change.
And the Volvo boxes always had a distinctive rattle/vibration through the stick, bloody annoying.