Daf 2600 “camion + remorque” and Saviem JL20
michel:
Daf 2600 “camion + remorque” and Saviem JL20
Having been a Trailer mate in my time I would very definitely refuse “Point blank” to ride shotgun with that geezer second from the right 
Cheers Dennis.
Saviem
This is your old mate Pat introducing himself in the first ever Truck magazine in October 1974.
Short and sweet !!
Bewick:
Having been a Trailer mate in my time I would very definitely refuse “Point blank” to ride shotgun with that geezer second from the right
Den, just need you to confirm that that’s you standing to the left of him…?.. 
Good shout Dennis, i wonder what had just been said, or what he said.
LIKE .im ■■■-ed if i am going to drive today .look my elbows hurt,my trousers are falling down.
that beef on truck line was terrible,…the wine was like diesel…and all those englazie drivers call mr frogie.
Evening all,
No you are all wrong, Big Dennis is saying, “with that big steering wheel I can not drive the DAF”…
oh la la…(with the pose) is saying, “did you see me reverse that in there”
And the sad boy on the left is saying “barstewards…that was my parking space”
Id better go now.
Cheerio for now.
Fergie47:
Bewick:
Having been a Trailer mate in my time I would very definitely refuse “Point blank” to ride shotgun with that geezer second from the rightDen, just need you to confirm that that’s you standing to the left of him…?..
Noooo!now then Dave! you lads will not be happy until I own up to being in that shot 
and the youth on the right of the shot, by the way he’s standing, looks like he could well be the mate of the dodgy geezer 00h! err! But it’s defo not me because he hasn’t got a blue Brady boiler suit 
and I can swear on a “stack of The good books” that I never carried that sort of gear with me up and down the road,there wasn’t room in the Octopus,we just had a holdall apiece tucked under our seats and our donkey jackets hung up in each corner Good try but “no cigar” Cheers Dennis.
deckboypeggy:
Good shout Dennis, i wonder what had just been said, or what he said.
LIKE .im ■■■-ed if i am going to drive today .look my elbows hurt,my trousers are falling down.
that beef on truck line was terrible,…the wine was like diesel…and all those englazie drivers call mr frogie.
Quote " Ooo I could crush a grape I really could"
Saviem, amazing what you find when browsing these old truck magazines ! We spoke about Atkins and there is
a small bit in truck chat about why they opened a office in Cherbourg. I think they were the first UK company
to have one there closely followed by Axminster and Swains ? Anyway an intresting piece from 1976.
Click on page to read for better focus.
Intresting reading,it seemed to me to put the AA.in adiffernt lite …
could someone explain to me if back then the AA attitude towards trucks was not as i thought ,[in fact i did not even know or care about the AA] !! why did we have to pick up our new trailer carnet up from the AA in Dover…
All good stuff!
He looks like a nice boy Dennis! You’ll be alright , just as long as he hasn’t removed the top bunk!
Re my stories. You may be right - perhaps all my life is a fantasy.
Looks like St. Bees will be closing. Sad Day. Old boy Rowan Atkinson did speech day on Saturday…Bit younger than me. His older brother Rodney was in my class.
John
DEANB:
Saviem, amazing what you find when browsing these old truck magazines ! We spoke about Atkins and there is
a small bit in truck chat about why they opened a office in Cherbourg. I think they were the first UK company
to have one there closely followed by Axminster and Swains ? Anyway an intresting piece from 1976.Click on page to read for better focus.
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Cawthorn & Sinclair had a depot in Le Harve in the late 60s if not the very early 70s and I think they were the first British firm to open a depot in France.
Speaking of the AA you had to get an International driving license from them and it only lasted 12 months I think so they ripping off our industry in the 60s
cheers Johnnie
sammyopisite:
DEANB:
Saviem, amazing what you find when browsing these old truck magazines ! We spoke about Atkins and there is
a small bit in truck chat about why they opened a office in Cherbourg. I think they were the first UK company
to have one there closely followed by Axminster and Swains ? Anyway an intresting piece from 1976.Click on page to read for better focus.
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Cawthorn & Sinclair had a depot in Le Harve in the late 60s if not the very early 70s and I think they were the first British firm to open a depot in France.
Speaking of the AA you had to get an International driving license from them and it only lasted 12 months I think so they ripping off our industry in the 60s
cheers Johnnie
Yes you probably right about Cawthorn having a depot in Le Havre but i was just talking about Cherbourg
mate.
sammyopisite:
DEANB:
Saviem, amazing what you find when browsing these old truck magazines ! We spoke about Atkins and there is
a small bit in truck chat about why they opened a office in Cherbourg. I think they were the first UK company
to have one there closely followed by Axminster and Swains ? Anyway an intresting piece from 1976.Click on page to read for better focus.
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Cawthorn & Sinclair had a depot in Le Harve in the late 60s if not the very early 70s and I think they were the first British firm to open a depot in France.
Speaking of the AA you had to get an International driving license from them and it only lasted 12 months I think so they ripping off our industry in the 60s
cheers Johnnie
To be fair: as far as I know, the AA, RAC and the Post Office have always issued IDPs on behalf of the government. For many years they remained at £4 per year. Now, only the Post Office issues them. They are still absolutely invaluable outside the EU. If a dodgy copper decides to confiscate it in some hot and dusty place, you still have the comfort of knowing that your ‘real’ licence is safely in your wallet! That’s worth a fiver all by itself. Robert
robert1952:
sammyopisite:
DEANB:
Saviem, amazing what you find when browsing these old truck magazines ! We spoke about Atkins and there is
a small bit in truck chat about why they opened a office in Cherbourg. I think they were the first UK company
to have one there closely followed by Axminster and Swains ? Anyway an intresting piece from 1976.Click on page to read for better focus.
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Cawthorn & Sinclair had a depot in Le Harve in the late 60s if not the very early 70s and I think they were the first British firm to open a depot in France.
Speaking of the AA you had to get an International driving license from them and it only lasted 12 months I think so they ripping off our industry in the 60s
cheers Johnnie
To be fair: as far as I know, the AA, RAC and the Post Office have always issued IDPs on behalf of the government. For many years they remained at £4 per year. Now, only the Post Office issues them. They are still absolutely invaluable outside the EU. If a dodgy copper decides to confiscate it in some hot and dusty place, you still have the comfort of knowing that your ‘real’ licence is safely in your wallet! That’s worth a fiver all by itself.
Hi Robert that is why I first got one as we were not in the E U then and I am sure they only a £1 but but the firm paid for them so it was daft not to have one
cheers Johnnie
Dean I am sorry I thought you meant in France just put it down to being senile
cheers Johnnie
Saviem there is an unknown wagon on FB with a couple of people guessing so I thought I would ask a man who will know Saviem or Fiat but I was thinking maybe O.M.
cheers Johnnie
Hi DeanB I worked for PBC European in 1973, a company which started from a coal yard (public benefit coal) hence the name owned by Frank Allen who is still alive and lives nearby me in the outskirts of Southampton. They had an office in Cherbourg run by George Osmonde and I since found out his son runs the truck wash in the town still today. Remember four Berliet tractor units and some of the AEC Mandators were French registered and some of the trailers, but this I believe was to secure more permits because back then if you loaded a French truck from England I am sure you got an extra permit for doing so, tizz a long time ago so I may not have that right but something rings a bell there, back then we used to get £35 all in for the week plus a few fiddleys (say no more) good learning curve though and stayed in the job to this day but retired now, well tired anyway cheers Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Hi DeanB I worked for PBC European in 1973, a company which started from a coal yard (public benefit coal) hence the name owned by Frank Allen who is still alive and lives nearby me in the outskirts of Southampton. They had an office in Cherbourg run by George Osmonde and I since found out his son runs the truck wash in the town still today. Remember four Berliet tractor units and some of the AEC Mandators were French registered and some of the trailers, but this I believe was to secure more permits because back then if you loaded a French truck from England I am sure you got an extra permit for doing so, tizz a long time ago so I may not have that right but something rings a bell there, back then we used to get £35 all in for the week plus a few fiddleys (say no more) good learning curve though and stayed in the job to this day but retired now, well tired anyway cheers Buzzer.
Thats a good point you have brought up there Buzzer ! I never gave permits a thought but that would explain
why Atkins,Axminster and Swains all opened offices in Cherbourg. If you look on the Axminster thread there
are french registered lorries and from memory there is a picture of a french registered Atkins lorry on the
Poole/Cherbourg thread,although i think it is right hand drive ! Glad you pointed that out.
These 2 LPS seem look the part.
Their French registration is from 1975, nevertheless they are older.
Evening all,
Well Im as dusty as an old Mares bum.........managed to cut 30acres today, and am really chuffed that Ive beaten old "Arthur-Itis …well I a`int really…we have sort of worked around each other…all I need is “Phoebe” to shine so bright upon the grass…then I can turn it a few times…and then bale…
It is like heaven, the smell, the Birds, and to feel a tractor moving under you, when I never even believed that I could do it again…I`m overjoyed…
Johnnie I would be better, if I could identify your Shell outfit! I would think it is Italian. But the wheels and tyres are very small on the unit, but the back axle could be OM, but it could also be a Unic one. That cab, peculiar looker, the offside door handle, looks like one of those “pull out and twist to release”, as used by Levallois on the late 50s cabs for FAR three wheelers. But the rest is not Levallois…going to keep me thinking this one…but it looks Italian…
Buzzer, DEANB, you are right , the rush of office openings by UK hauliers in France was all about Permit allocation, and precious little else…except in the case of Atkins, they could use it to “bash” their local authority, who in all fairness treated them diabolically…but t`was ever the case with the haulage industry.
As Michels picture showed Atkins used a lot of their older Mercedes units , re registered in France, which on paper indicated a serious capital investment in France to the Authorities. Amazing when one reflects upon it, that a boat service originally developed to get Brittany Farmers produce to the UK export market could have spawned the growth of UK Hauliers into France. Cherbourg became quite a little Britain in the late 70s.
My first International Driving Licence was issued by the RAC, in 1963…was I proud of that certificate sized piece of paper, and I`ve still got it…somewhere!!!
I really do not know who was the first British Haulier to open an office in France…perhaps it was the Royal Army Service Corps■■? But I remember Cawthorne and Sinclair, around the mid 60s having an office in Le Havre. One would always come across their bow fronted Mercedes day cabs in the most obscure places…I sailed back from Sicily with one in `65. I think that the bulk of their work was Caterpillar, but one thing is certain, their drivers were really good guys!
As were the men I used to run across from Fridged Freight…truly the lorries that they drove looked, (and were), totally gargantuan…AEC Mamouth Majors, with colossal bodies, and sometimes a drawbar trailer…seeing one of theirs was always a treat…Now did they open an office at Le Touquet, (Paris Plage), because I can remember having to clear customs there on a few occasions. Now I wonder why that was?? I cannot recall…
Another one that I remember with odd looking van bodies was Monks from Uxbridge, used to see them well down in France, ran some quite old kit…but then I was driving old kit as well…and it got us there and back with few problems…
But permits…now there is a subject for debate!!!
Im away for a medicinal Bollinger…for tomorrow I expect I shall suffer…
Cheerio for now.