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anorak:Fergie47:
“Push me - pull you”0
One can only speculate…
Anorak… I’m guessing it’s a crane ? So it’s easier to manoeuvre around the site… 
Now you mention it, the truss above it is the jib. I had assumed that it was part of the building. I think I need a holiday. Given my shortage of funds, a working holiday is probably the ideal solution to the problem. Do they need any gigolos in France at the moment?
Fergie47:
Froggy55:
Thanks for these last batches. Some pictures I never seen and are very interesting!Hello Paul…hope you’re well and keeping safe…i’ve always liked the bonneted wagons, although never drove one…and they old photos of French village, life with a lorry, van or coach thrown in…I’ve got a batch of Pinder and other circus and fun fair wagons, I’ll post up later.
There was a circus in a town near us a couple of years ago, they had a fleet of newish bonneted American wagons and 2 older cab overs, looked the buisness, but I didnt have had a camera with me…unlike the UK circuses, the French tend to use more modern vehicles.
Circuses and fun fairs were the best places to see old trucks. Until some 20 years ago, very old trucks were still at work, but the technical inspectors gradually pushed them out of the game. Nevertheless, a pair of 1960/61 bonneted Berliet TLM 10, based at Port-Vendres (near Perpignan) still come out with the Spring. No idea if they’ll have survived the Covid. Certainly the oldest trucks still at work in the country. I have posted them several times on the Forum.
Now the mentality has changed, and they’re proud to run Renault Magnums or recents Scanias. Totally uninteresting for me.
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anorak:Fergie47:
“Push me - pull you”0
One can only speculate…
Berliet TLM 10a, b or R. Second half of the fifties. Is it still there or scrapped?
Fergie47:
Hello Paul…hope you’re well and keeping safe…i’ve always liked the bonneted wagons, although never drove one…
Yes, thanks, my wife and myself are fine, sitll Covid-free. Id did drive a few bonneted trucks, mainly Berliet of the 60s and 70s, but also a MAN. One feel invincible at their wheel! The Berliets (4 and 6-wheelers) were OK to drive, but the MAN very rough.
I had totally forgotten I had driven a bonneted Renault similar to this one (CLM 340) back in the mid '90s. A bad memory.
GBH 6x4.
Quiz question:
When did the GBH260 lose the slatted side panels on its bonnet?
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anorak:
Quiz question:When did the GBH260 lose the slatted side panels on its bonnet?
1975, with the M4 cab (Charge-Utile Magazine n° 212).
This GLM 10a is still in use as a food truck.
During road work near Nice , Berliet GLM 12 6x4 had their weight:
Froggy55:
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anorak:
Quiz question:When did the GBH260 lose the slatted side panels on its bonnet?
1975, with the M4 cab (Charge-Utile Magazine n° 212).
Merci- fast answer, Monsieur 55. I preferred the look of it with those panels. Now- what’s the difference between a GBH 260 and a GLM 12 (above)?
michel:
During road work near Nice , Berliet GLM 12 6x4 had their weight:
These remind me of the impressive fleet of tippers used when the airport in Nice was constructed on reclaimed seashore. As I recall it was back in the 70’s. Basically a “mountain” of rock was chosen near the site and then removed to the seashore where if formed the basis of the airport. I think that is about right! It was a massive undertaking, very impressive. There must be some pics of the vehicles used somewhere. Perhaps the Charge Utile magazine would have done a feature on it.
Dipster:
michel:
During road work near Nice , Berliet GLM 12 6x4 had their weight:
These remind me of the impressive fleet of tippers used when the airport in Nice was constructed on reclaimed seashore. As I recall it was back in the 70’s. Basically a “mountain” of rock was chosen near the site and then removed to the seashore where if formed the basis of the airport. I think that is about right! It was a massive undertaking, very impressive. There must be some pics of the vehicles used somewhere. Perhaps the Charge Utile magazine would have done a feature on it.
Dipster…i posted pics of some of those wagons working in Nice on here a while back, but no idea on which page, they were Saviem /Renaults with the later cabs like the M.A.Ns…double trailers, but can’t rember if they were twin or tri axles.
Fergie47:
Dipster:
michel:
During road work near Nice , Berliet GLM 12 6x4 had their weight:
These remind me of the impressive fleet of tippers used when the airport in Nice was constructed on reclaimed seashore. As I recall it was back in the 70’s. Basically a “mountain” of rock was chosen near the site and then removed to the seashore where if formed the basis of the airport. I think that is about right! It was a massive undertaking, very impressive. There must be some pics of the vehicles used somewhere. Perhaps the Charge Utile magazine would have done a feature on it.
Dipster…i posted pics of some of those wagons working in Nice on here a while back, but no idea on which page, they were Saviem /Renaults with the later cabs like the M.A.Ns…double trailers, but can’t rember if they were twin or tri axles.
Thanks for this.
Using the search facility I found a post by Dean, May 08, 2019. It showed a pic of the trucks being loaded by a MASSIVE loader, a Poclain I think judging by the colour scheme. The tractors were 6x4 (painted blue of course!). The trailers were twin axle, the second connected to the first by a twin axle dolly. I also recall that the trucks actually had their own road down to the seashore to avoid going on the public roads. I have used the resulting airport many times and often wonder if any of the plane crews or passengers realise how much work went into building it.
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anorak:Froggy55:
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anorak:
Quiz question:When did the GBH260 lose the slatted side panels on its bonnet?
1975, with the M4 cab (Charge-Utile Magazine n° 212).
Merci- fast answer, Monsieur 55. I preferred the look of it with those panels. Now- what’s the difference between a GBH 260 and a GLM 12 (above)?
The GLM were heavy-duty chassis.
- 1961 (22 June): GLM 10 6x4 ;10 litres 180 bhp ; chassis + cab weight: 9,2 tonnes. Fitted with the M3 cab from Dec 1963.
- 1964 (30 Dec): GLM 12 6x4 ; 12 litres 240 bhp; chassis + cab weight: 9,5 tonnes
The GBH range had an optimised chassis with a kerb weight of 8 tonnes, at lest when it was launched in October 1967, replacing the GLM 12 6x4.
- 1967 (10 Oct): GBH 12 6x4; 2540 bhp
- 1968 (Nov): engine upgraded to 250 bhp (SAE)
- 1972 (15 March): GBH 12 6x6; 12 litres 250 bhp
- 1974 (20 Sept): GBH 260; 12 litres 250 bhp. Fitted with the M4 cab; just minor upgradings compared to the M3 cab.
- 1975 (March) : GBH/TBH 280 ; 12 litres turbocharged engine developing at first 260 bhp SAE, upgraded to 280 bhp SAE (242 bhp DIN) in 1978.
From 1980, all Berliet trucks were badged Renault, and the GBH continued its carreer.
- 1980-1986 GBH 280 6x4 E: engine upgraded to 280 bhp (DIN)
In 1986 was launched the Renault CBH, fitted with a bonneted “G” cab and the same engine, with several upgradings raising its output to 385 bhp (DIN) in 1992.
End of the bonneted French trucks in 1998, with the introduction of the Kerax range.
Despite all my efforts, the yellow CBH 350 insists in being upside down!