the landrover freelander td4 engine is prone to running away on oil if the crankcase breather filter is not changed
years ago I had a Volvo fl7 run away when the rack wedged in the fuel pump going round the m25, got off at j11 and stalled the thing in the lay by
as has been said c02 in the air intake is the best way
I’ve tended to have autos stall on me when I’m not concentrating, as I am aware of the conditions it occurs. The main culprit is coming out of things like farms where you trundle up and come to a halt easily and the computer can’t see there’s a dip or hump to overcome to pull out on to the road it’ll pick something like 3rd,or even 5th if empty, and stall. Can be tricky if you’re trying to get on to a fast A road or dual carriageway.
HEEHEEEHEEE! Sorry but this reminded me of way back when my mate and I travelled 15m to college on our m/bikes, week about. He had a Kawasaki H2, a wicked 3-cyl 2-stroke. We set off one morning his week. Got to the 1st set of lights and the Kwack was idling nicely - RING-A-DINGDINGDING. Next set of lights it was RING-A-DINGDINGDING. Third set it was RING-A-DINGDINGDING. Eventually (only half-way there) it was RING-A-DINGDINGDINGDING!
My mate shut off the fuel - RING-A-DINGDINGDINGDING
He ripped off the plug leads - RING-A-DINGDINGDINGDING
He put it in 1st and let the clutch out - RING-A-DINGDINGDING - but it crept forward, so…
We pushed it off the road, put the front wheel against a tree, then let the clutch out - RING-A-DUH.
Oh how we laughed.
How does a petrol engine runaway,once the spark is gone there should be no ignition
del949:
How does a petrol engine runaway,once the spark is gone there should be no ignition
Because its running on the oil, and relying on compression for the bang 
Juddian:
del949:
How do you ‘set off’ with no throttle, the clutch won’t engage until you apply throttle.
point taken, try using minimum throttle.
re the suggestion of engaging first gear and applying footbrake, all that happens is that the clutch fails.
been there , done it.Agree about first gear, there’s not much energy in engine oil the thing is running on at this point so stalling should be possible in a higher gear.
I expect in practice these poxy gearboxes won’t accept any gear selection with the engine revving its bollox off, about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
Over the years had several of these auto-rubbish things stall on me, both Scania and MAN (several times) always when in auto mode when they selected gears too high for low road speed such as junctions and the torqueless at low revs engines unable to cope, now i only drive the heaps in manual override so wrong gear shouldn’t happen…in theory anyway
By the way didn’t some LandRovers have this self destructing habit, but caused by seal failures in the pumps so running on Diesel instead, again a real simple stop switch would have been an easy cure.
Most common on the landy is the turbo seal on the intake side giving in
Frost89:
Juddian:
del949:
How do you ‘set off’ with no throttle, the clutch won’t engage until you apply throttle.
point taken, try using minimum throttle.
re the suggestion of engaging first gear and applying footbrake, all that happens is that the clutch fails.
been there , done it.Agree about first gear, there’s not much energy in engine oil the thing is running on at this point so stalling should be possible in a higher gear.
I expect in practice these poxy gearboxes won’t accept any gear selection with the engine revving its bollox off, about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
Over the years had several of these auto-rubbish things stall on me, both Scania and MAN (several times) always when in auto mode when they selected gears too high for low road speed such as junctions and the torqueless at low revs engines unable to cope, now i only drive the heaps in manual override so wrong gear shouldn’t happen…in theory anyway
By the way didn’t some LandRovers have this self destructing habit, but caused by seal failures in the pumps so running on Diesel instead, again a real simple stop switch would have been an easy cure.
Most common on the landy is the turbo seal on the intake side giving in
Our Landy doesn’t have a turbo 
its hardly has any horse power-it would have been rated at 63bhp when new- but 47 years later most of the ponys have buggered off
Rikki-UK:
del949:
How does a petrol engine runaway,once the spark is gone there should be no ignitionBecause its running on the oil, and relying on compression for the bang
On a 2 stroke it’s more likely excess carbon build up on the cylinder head, it starts to act like a glow plug, ignition off it still ignites the juice coming from the carbs. My Suzuki GT750 did this to me on the way to take my HGV test! should have realized it was an omen!
Rikki-UK:
Frost89:
Juddian:
del949:
How do you ‘set off’ with no throttle, the clutch won’t engage until you apply throttle.
point taken, try using minimum throttle.
re the suggestion of engaging first gear and applying footbrake, all that happens is that the clutch fails.
been there , done it.Agree about first gear, there’s not much energy in engine oil the thing is running on at this point so stalling should be possible in a higher gear.
I expect in practice these poxy gearboxes won’t accept any gear selection with the engine revving its bollox off, about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
Over the years had several of these auto-rubbish things stall on me, both Scania and MAN (several times) always when in auto mode when they selected gears too high for low road speed such as junctions and the torqueless at low revs engines unable to cope, now i only drive the heaps in manual override so wrong gear shouldn’t happen…in theory anyway
By the way didn’t some LandRovers have this self destructing habit, but caused by seal failures in the pumps so running on Diesel instead, again a real simple stop switch would have been an easy cure.
Most common on the landy is the turbo seal on the intake side giving in
Our Landy doesn’t have a turbo
Off topic but what landy is it? I’m a tad fanatical
del949:
How does a petrol engine runaway,once the spark is gone there should be no ignition
Not so many years back lots of petrol engines used to run on for a few seconds or more when (the spark)was switched off, especially if a bit hot or the ignition timing was a bit too far advanced. Sometimes they’d even run backwards.
Not surprising clutches have been burned out trying to stall a truck in FIRST GEAR 
The (forward) gear (apart from crawler) giving the most torque.
Seen my neighbours Mrs with car enveloped in a cloud of clutch smoke trying that trick a few years back when the fuel cut off solenoid went on their diesel ■■■■■■ at a weekend. I had shown him what to do (stall in 4th or 5th) until i could obtain a solenoid on the Monday.
Mind you, she was revving it as she tried to stall it. 
Frost89:
Off topic but what landy is it? I’m a tad fanatical
See “Project Bertha” the first link in Rikki’s signature.
She’s looking well Rikki, I just looked in for the 1st time in years. I’ll put it on my “to be read” list. 
I’ve just bought a '74 Series 3 88" with a Perkins 4.203 in it.
Here’s a good un. Scary stuff!
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Bking:
att:
Another DAF with a Turbo problem…No way of shutting it down, until it throws a rod and then it`s all over
You can even burn the brakes out trying to stop the buggersMaybe your firm should have the brakes looked at never mind the bloody turbos
foot brake full on,into first gear and try to move it.If that dont stall you need major brake work done.
On a unit that is 3 weeks old 
Thanks for reminding me why I seldom bother on here 
ashbyspannerman:
del949:
How does a petrol engine runaway,once the spark is gone there should be no ignitionOn a 2 stroke it’s more likely excess carbon build up on the cylinder head, it starts to act like a glow plug, ignition off it still ignites the juice coming from the carbs. My Suzuki GT750 did this to me on the way to take my HGV test! should have realized it was an omen!
Spot on, Ashby. The plugs were glowing! It was such a mad engine on that Kwak (500cc with a powerband at 6000 then another at 13000!!) that any slight mis-time brought problems. Course, we’d turned the fuel taps off but it was running on the float chambers and we were already hidden in a cloud of two-stroke smoke.
Bking:
foot brake full on,into first gear and try to move it.If that dont stall you need major brake work done.
No,No,No.Top gear is the one you want.
Why do you think you stall the engine when you try to start off in top gear?
Whichever gear you use,the clutch is going to be ■■■■■■,but top gear has more chance of stopping the engine.
Would it not make more sense to install a fuel emergency cut off instead of CO2 extinguishers and trying to stall it.
No, because once it’s running on its own oil the fuel is irrelevant.
Rhythm Thief:
No, because once it’s running on its own oil the fuel is irrelevant.
Because it’s running on it’s own oil you could disconnect fuel lines and it would make no odds
Just realised I’ve quoted the wrong zb post