newmercman:
That ERF is at least ten years old in the photo, by that time the B and C series had come and gone and the E series was the current model, that was a huge gap in creature comforts and power compared to the difference between an 08 and an 18, which haven’t really changed much apart from being more complicated and less reliable.
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Morning Mark,
It looks like an M or an N reg! Got to be a 180 Gardner powered I would have thought, but as you commented a grease round and an oil change and it would have been a reliable motor, 11 year old motor now probably on it’s 2nd gearbox, wiring loom, ad-blue dosage pump etc!.
Punchy Dan you are exempt from replying! Cheer’s Pete
Punchy Dan:
Furness’s from smedley street Matlock ,they built houses on there now ,I think Abh bought the lorries / job .
I live 100 yds from their old yard, did go there for a job once but didn’t take it. The family house still stands though.
Their yard in earlier times, nothing has much has changed on the street view though! Not my pics of course. When the family were offered an (allegedly) seven figure sum for the yard they sold it to developers, our Doctor lives in a house built on the entrance to their old yard. They still have a car repair garage at Tansley though, and years ago also ran busses and taxis.
newmercman:
That ERF is at least ten years old in the photo, by that time the B and C series had come and gone and the E series was the current model, that was a huge gap in creature comforts and power compared to the difference between an 08 and an 18, which haven’t really changed much apart from being more complicated and less reliable.
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Do you mean the Furniss ERF tanker? If so they ran quite an aged fleet towards the end, ERF predominantly by that time but they had Guy Big J/Albion/ Commer etc as well. Most tanker loads were from Ben Bennetts at Grange Mill near Matlock. Our vintage club secretary drove for them, he had a Commer Maxiload six wheeler tank. He told me that the truck was parked up for scrap at Bennetts for a long while and Furniss’s offered to buy it for the tank and scrap the chassis. Anyway it was collected and when viewed at the yard was found to be better than some of the trucks they were already running, the engine was fine so it was tidied up and put to work! Alas Bennetts wouldn’t let it back on their premises (they had sold it on the promise that it would be scrapped after all!) so it worked from Tilcons Ballidon Quarry and probably on better rates!
That ERF might well have been Gardner engined, Roy Furniss could tune a Gardner and make them fly and he also did the Gardner engines for other hauliers like BJ Waters. All work was done ‘in house’ and they could tackle any repair work. Later they had ERF’s with ■■■■■■■ engines, the B series ERF tipper I had the chance of driving for them had a ■■■■■■■ but apart from location (I could see the yard from our window!) the job wasn’t ideal for me as it was all local stone hauling for Slinter Mining and nobody could tell me what the pay was likely to be! Mr Furniss just said “The last driver never complained so it must have been OK?” which didn’t fill me with confidence as Slinter rates were not the best so I stayed with Tilcon and soon after Furniss’s closed for good anyway.
newmercman:
That ERF is at least ten years old in the photo, by that time the B and C series had come and gone and the E series was the current model, that was a huge gap in creature comforts and power compared to the difference between an 08 and an 18, which haven’t really changed much apart from being more complicated and less reliable.
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Do you mean the Furniss ERF tanker? If so they ran quite an aged fleet towards the end, ERF predominantly by that time but they had Guy Big J/Albion/ Commer etc as well. Most tanker loads were from Ben Bennetts at Grange Mill near Matlock. Our vintage club secretary drove for them, he had a Commer Maxiload six wheeler tank. He told me that the truck was parked up for scrap at Bennetts for a long while and Furniss’s offered to buy it for the tank and scrap the chassis. Anyway it was collected and when viewed at the yard was found to be better than some of the trucks they were already running, the engine was fine so it was tidied up and put to work! Alas Bennetts wouldn’t let it back on their premises (they had sold it on the promise that it would be scrapped after all!) so it worked from Tilcons Ballidon Quarry and probably on better rates!
That ERF might well have been Gardner engined, Roy Furniss could tune a Gardner and make them fly and he also did the Gardner engines for other hauliers like BJ Waters. All work was done ‘in house’ and they could tackle any repair work. Later they had ERF’s with ■■■■■■■ engines, the B series ERF tipper I had the chance of driving for them had a ■■■■■■■ but apart from location (I could see the yard from our window!) the job wasn’t ideal for me as it was all local stone hauling for Slinter Mining and nobody could tell me what the pay was likely to be! Mr Furniss just said “The last driver never complained so it must have been OK?” which didn’t fill me with confidence as Slinter rates were not the best so I stayed with Tilcon and soon after Furniss’s closed for good anyway.
Pete.
Thank you Dan and Pete for the information and pic’s on Furniss’s, Pete
DEANB:
Always liked the colour scheme of Ferrymasters
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Paul, Dean and Chris,
I can remember Ferrymasters coming into the Mill in Wolverhampton with Merc 2025’s and a spread axle tandem tilt on, the pallets were loaded through the rear of trailer and was only 2 way pallets so were the wrong way for unloading, take the back 2 off through rear and then plenty of excercise with the pallet truck turning the pallets!
Thanks for the pic’s and information lads, Pete
It’s very interesting to see the amount of ERFs, Fodens, Leylands and Seddon Atkis running around in the late 80s. Now they’re all long gone, they were obviously up to the job and apart from the cab interiors were more than a match for the imports, especially in the case of the 8 wheelers which were better than the competition, in my limited experience only MAN and Volvo had a decent 8 wheeler in those days.
It’s difficult to comprehend how they have all disappeared now, swallowed up by foreign manufacturers who couldn’t beat them with their products, so they bought them out and shut them down, a sad state of affairs.
newmercman:
It’s very interesting to see the amount of ERFs, Fodens, Leylands and Seddon Atkis running around in the late 80s. Now they’re all long gone, they were obviously up to the job and apart from the cab interiors were more than a match for the imports, especially in the case of the 8 wheelers which were better than the competition, in my limited experience only MAN and Volvo had a decent 8 wheeler in those days.
It’s difficult to comprehend how they have all disappeared now, swallowed up by foreign manufacturers who couldn’t beat them with their products, so they bought them out and shut them down, a sad state of affairs.
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Morning Mark,
Don’t take much notice of the lack of foreign motor’s, Roger would only take pictures of British motor’s if he could, if none about then he would take pic’s of anything passing. He is a die hard ERF man! Cheer’s Pete
DEANB:
Always liked the colour scheme of Ferrymasters
Here’s a few more
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Paul, Dean and Chris,
I can remember Ferrymasters coming into the Mill in Wolverhampton with Merc 2025’s and a spread axle tandem tilt on, the pallets were loaded through the rear of trailer and was only 2 way pallets so were the wrong way for unloading, take the back 2 off through rear and then plenty of excercise with the pallet truck turning the pallets!
Thanks for the pic’s and information lads, Pete
Pete,did you ever have the pleasure of the Ferrymasters tilts,that had the opening in the floor,to facilitate coils of steel?They were a bugger to try and move pallets on,especially heavy pallets,as the floors inevitably bowed in the middle.
newmercman:
It’s very interesting to see the amount of ERFs, Fodens, Leylands and Seddon Atkis running around in the late 80s. Now they’re all long gone, they were obviously up to the job and apart from the cab interiors were more than a match for the imports, especially in the case of the 8 wheelers which were better than the competition, in my limited experience only MAN and Volvo had a decent 8 wheeler in those days.
It’s difficult to comprehend how they have all disappeared now, swallowed up by foreign manufacturers who couldn’t beat them with their products, so they bought them out and shut them down, a sad state of affairs.
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Morning Mark,
Don’t take much notice of the lack of foreign motor’s, Roger would only take pictures of British motor’s if he could, if none about then he would take pic’s of anything passing. He is a die hard ERF man! Cheer’s Pete
Even so Pete, there were still plenty about, I wasn’t a big fan myself, preferring the Swedish lorries, but looking back through my rose tinted lenses, well you know…
Salop Haulage was formed back in November 1979 by the late Richard (Dickie) Homden,
the director of Salop Design and Engineering, and Brian Davies. Salop Haulage Ltd
DEANB:
Always liked the colour scheme of Ferrymasters
Here’s a few more
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1
0
Paul, Dean and Chris,
I can remember Ferrymasters coming into the Mill in Wolverhampton with Merc 2025’s and a spread axle tandem tilt on, the pallets were loaded through the rear of trailer and was only 2 way pallets so were the wrong way for unloading, take the back 2 off through rear and then plenty of excercise with the pallet truck turning the pallets!
Thanks for the pic’s and information lads, Pete
Pete,did you ever have the pleasure of the Ferrymasters tilts,that had the opening in the floor,to facilitate coils of steel?They were a bugger to try and move pallets on,especially heavy pallets,as the floors inevitably bowed in the middle.
No mate, Ferrymasters only brought a couple of loads in like that, then W J Capper started bringing it in from Hull I think on flats with the pallets the right way round!,
newmercman:
It’s very interesting to see the amount of ERFs, Fodens, Leylands and Seddon Atkis running around in the late 80s. Now they’re all long gone, they were obviously up to the job and apart from the cab interiors were more than a match for the imports, especially in the case of the 8 wheelers which were better than the competition, in my limited experience only MAN and Volvo had a decent 8 wheeler in those days.
It’s difficult to comprehend how they have all disappeared now, swallowed up by foreign manufacturers who couldn’t beat them with their products, so they bought them out and shut them down, a sad state of affairs.
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Morning Mark,
Don’t take much notice of the lack of foreign motor’s, Roger would only take pictures of British motor’s if he could, if none about then he would take pic’s of anything passing. He is a die hard ERF man! Cheer’s Pete
Even so Pete, there were still plenty about, I wasn’t a big fan myself, preferring the Swedish lorries, but looking back through my rose tinted lenses, well you know…
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Mark, The older motors probably had a longer life as no emission tripe to contend with!
moomooland:
1Salop Haulage was formed back in November 1979 by the late Richard (Dickie) Homden,
the director of Salop Design and Engineering, and Brian Davies. Salop Haulage Ltd
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Hi Paul,
Thank you for the info on Salop Haulage, they had a couple of smart Roadtrains on tank work as well as a couple of Scania 142’s, Cheer’s Pete
Pete I’m going through the motions of trading a 2014 Volvo for a 2002 (pre emissions) Peterbilt with a CAT engine, it looks like I’m going to have to part with around 40grand to do the deal!
The Peterbilt has a residual of 60% after 16yrs, albeit with a freshly rebuilt engine, the four year old Volvo with 500,000miles on it is worth two balloons and a goldfish.