Chopsticks:
Anyone got any advice on these, how they work and if its gonna be easy/quick to pick up how to use 'em?Thanks peeps.
Itâs the second best box in the world, I lament itâs passing along with all the âold handsâ on the site.
mike68:
Chopsticks:
Anyone got any advice on these, how they work and if its gonna be easy/quick to pick up how to use 'em?Thanks peeps.
Itâs the second best box in the world, I lament itâs passing along with all the âold handsâ on the site.
What would you rate as better then? I donât think there is anything before or since to better the Roadranger, although I do wonder how a twinsplitter would be with the shifter going directly into the selector forks like it does on this instead of having cables.
I had one, the gears were arranged thusâŚ
1 4
2 3
Sure confused me at first!
Harry Monk:
I had one, the gears were arranged thusâŚ1 4
2 3
Sure confused me at first!
We had those in Fodenâs, it was the same box as fitted to Sed Aks but with a reversed gate due to the seddons gear lever lifting with the cab. I liked that box, it had and âextra gearâ in crawler in high range which gave you a half gear between 4th and 5th, which was handy on some banks as you could avoid low range. When changing up from crawler high you selected low range and whipped it into 4th, then a quick change back up to 5th in high range and you were away and gone! Handy for pulling away when empty as well. 
Pete.
bobthedog:
mike68:
Chopsticks:
Anyone got any advice on these, how they work and if its gonna be easy/quick to pick up how to use 'em?Thanks peeps.
Itâs the second best box in the world, I lament itâs passing along with all the âold handsâ on the site.
What would you rate as better then? I donât think there is anything before or since to better the Roadranger, although I do wonder how a twinsplitter would be with the shifter going directly into the selector forks like it does on this instead of having cables.
If I remember correctly MAN and ERF didnât use cables but Fodens did
Harry Monk:
I had one, the gears were arranged thusâŚ1 4
2 3
Sure confused me at first!
I had a go with one of those arse-about-face gearboxes in a boneshaker of a Sed Ak piece of {ZB} for one trip and Iâll admit that the gearshift pattern took some getting used to. 
My normal steed at the time was a Scania 111, which had to go for service and MOT, so this gearbox was âstrangeâ to say the least.
I thought I was having a week off, but the boss said heâd got a replacement truck and offered me the extra tripâŚ
Being young and foolish at that time, I neglected to ask what the replacement was going to be. 
Fortunately, Iâm good at keeping my head down (and running at night ) so nobody that knew me saw me in it. 
To be fair though, it didnât miss a beat all the way to Macon and back but I was ever so glad to swop back to the Scania. 
Wheel Nut:
bobthedog:
mike68:
Chopsticks:
Anyone got any advice on these, how they work and if its gonna be easy/quick to pick up how to use 'em?Thanks peeps.
Itâs the second best box in the world, I lament itâs passing along with all the âold handsâ on the site.
What would you rate as better then? I donât think there is anything before or since to better the Roadranger, although I do wonder how a twinsplitter would be with the shifter going directly into the selector forks like it does on this instead of having cables.
If I remember correctly MAN and ERF didnât use cables but Fodens did
I thought it was Sedâ Ak who used cables. Maybe it was both 
. Wasnât that on twin-splitters ? Or was it on both ?
I remember the difference (in use) being explained. (I can tell the difference between a rod and a cable 
)
Those cables would stretch and if they werenât tightened up correctly (or just left loose) the gear selector forks wouldnât engage gear-dogs properly.
Fodenâs used cables from the early eighties on, we never had a problem with the cables stretching (and we ran about 30+ of them) but a lot of companies had trouble. When the cab was raised for servicing we used to trickle some oil down the cables which helped a lot, also there was a grease â â â â â â on the linkage which was often neglected! Sed aks used a rod, at least the ones we had did which were made from 1976 until 1982.
Pete.
bobthedog:
mike68:
Chopsticks:
Anyone got any advice on these, how they work and if its gonna be easy/quick to pick up how to use 'em?Thanks peeps.
Itâs the second best box in the world, I lament itâs passing along with all the âold handsâ on the site.
What would you rate as better then? I donât think there is anything before or since to better the Roadranger, although I do wonder how a twinsplitter would be with the shifter going directly into the selector forks like it does on this instead of having cables.
Having used both I prefer the twin splitter,the cables spoiled it for me on the road ranger, but it was in a 8 wheel tipper with a caterpillar engine and it suited this application. I do miss the twin splitter but we just donât need that many ratios anymore.
Eaton twin splitter!!! What a pile of â â â the whole lot!!! The worst gearboxes ever, wonder why we donât have them any moreâ â ? That goes along with the other piles of â â â , ERF, Foden, Leyland, just never moved with the times unlike the Dutch and SwedesâŚ
Deepinvet:
Eaton twin splitter!!! What a pile of â â â the whole lot!!! The worst gearboxes ever, wonder why we donât have them any moreâ â ? That goes along with the other piles of â â â , ERF, Foden, Leyland, just never moved with the times unlike the Dutch and SwedesâŚ
It always ends up with a split camp. in my opinion the Dutch took a backward step when they swapped the DKS 13 speed Fuller for a 16 speed ZF and it would have been a rather fine tool, a 3600 Spacecab with a Twin Splitter.
But the reason they donât have them is because of the nimbys and noise pollution.
The Eaton/Fuller gearbox is, when used correctly, far easier to use than a synchromesh gearbox, the shift loads are a lot lighter & the shift is a lot quicker, they also last a lot longer & need less maintainance than a synchro box. They can be a real pain in the arse if you donât time the shifts correctly though.
Personally I prefer them, Iâve recently driven a manual FH & after the Fuller in my Pete itâs a real chore to change gear, the only time itâs better is in stop start traffic, the Volvo has a lighter clutch, but once youâre moving the Fuller wins hands down.
We all have our opinions on what we liked & I loved me sed atk with twin splitter but times have moved on this side of the pond what with euro emissions etc,so if we want to experience them again we will have to move to aus, usa or canada
Me personaly now! I LOVE THAT 2 pedal merc i drive every night
Wheel Nut:
It always ends up with a split camp. in my opinion the Dutch took a backward step when they swapped the DKS 13 speed Fuller for a 16 speed ZF and it would have been a rather fine tool, a 3600 Spacecab with a Twin Splitter.But the reason they donât have them is because of the nimbys and noise pollution.
Youâre right about the split camp, I had a Daf 3300 with the âbang-overâ ZF gearbox and I loved it⌠I used to smack that big long gearlever over to the right, then catch it on the rebound and push it into 5th gear in in one beautiful sweeping movement, IMHO the ZF was a good gearbox, the thing that made a ZF fitted truck good or bad was the linkage system.