Ro Ro Ferries

Hi all. :smiley:

I remember the old ‘back-on’ ferries out of Dover Western Docks, the trains, the awful food and the draughty portakabin that passed as a drivers’ waiting room.

Most of all, I’ll never forget the awful smell on those boats- they were absolutely disgusting. :smiling_imp:

Another awful service that I had the misfortune to sample was provided by SJ line on the Sassnitz - Trelleborg crossing.
I soon got the idea of timing my arrival at the port so as to ‘unfortunately’ miss the DDR registered SJ tub in favour of the other ship operating on that service, which was Swedish, what a contrast. :smiley:

On what other ferry would a nice young lady come to you and offer to do all your laundry and have it dry by the time you got to the other side and all for free??

Fredrikshavn - Gothenborg also gets a vote of thanks from me for consistently having a very capable chef and enough free food to feed a growing lad. :grimacing:

The Plymouth - Santander freighter also deserves a special mention here, not just because the food was served in Dave-sized portions, but it was the only ferry I knew where I could get to Spain and back without having to even see France. Now that really IS worth mentioning. :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley: :wink:

supercube.
remember the old rif boat out of ipswich use to be a couple of containers
welded to the deck to sleep in,bob wheres cains then

loosechange:
supercube.
remember the old rif boat out of ipswich use to be a couple of containers
welded to the deck to sleep in,bob wheres cains then

ive been on them a few times. food was allways ok thou, and so were the crew.

“supercube” , I was stuck on the Autocarrier 12 hours once , Dover / Zeebruge , wonder if it was the same trip ■■? It certainly was a tub !!!

dieseldave:
On what other ferry would a nice young lady come to you and offer to do all your laundry and have it dry by the time you got to the other side and all for free??

The Sealink boat ‘Earl Granville’ used to sail on the Portsmouth to Cherbourg route, there was a very camp little bloke who would do all your washing for a very small ammount and leave it outside your cabin. This was very handy on the times we were ‘turned around’ back to madrid, tip your onions at Paddock Wood & load Royal Mail, those were the days. (would’ve been 1988, 89 + 90.)

Oh, and a full carvery with proper food. Those were definately the days.

Ross.

Best ferries for the driver were the Schiaffinos which ran to Ostende from the last berth (concrete ramp) at Dover Eastern docks (where Speedferries came to till recently). Very tight for the wagons, but only room for 12 drivers on board and terrific accommodation and food (French of course :wink: ), served by a steward at the table.
I always rushed to be amongst the first 12 to get a berth on that rather than take the cash and go passenger on Sealink.

Unfortunately this old timers thread about the train ferries and especially the Nord pas de Calais is that it is still in service and hasn,t improved :stuck_out_tongue:

although i’m FAR too youthful to have travelled on them myself, i believe that the first UK roro ferries were converted LCTs or Landing Craft (Tank) vessels ex MoD, operated between Preston and Larne or Belfast and a bit later Tilbury and Antwerp by the Atlantic Steam Navigation Company

i would think that their service, started in the late 50s, ushered in driver accompanied services, although i understand that the first firms to go over the water like fridged freight did so in the mid 50s - so more info needed i think :bulb:

the LCT vessels were replaced with the bardic ferry and ionic ferry, which sadly I’am old enough to remember, very vaguely though :frowning:

Sure i read somewhere about a firm from Sheffield(Sheffield refactories)? that used the Tilbury/Antwerp ferry and they were running Leyland Octopus motors?
Very early 60s.

If they went over the water prior to ro/ro surely the trucks must have been craned on?
or did they use the Hovercraft?
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
When did that start running anyway?

Suedehead:
Sure i read somewhere about a firm from Sheffield(Sheffield refactories)? that used the Tilbury/Antwerp ferry and they were running Leyland Octopus motors?
Very early 60s.

If they went over the water prior to ro/ro surely the trucks must have been craned on?

LoLo vessels

Lift on / Lift off

I,ve been on the Puttgarden with a train a few years ago in my van. In a truck from Dover in the 80,s

First ferry,s i used were out of dover west “the shepperton” “the twickenham” and “the saint germain” all were back on with railway trucks on the same deck.After these in around 71/2 came the “vortigen” which was ro/ro.I also used the olau line sheerness vlissengen which was also back on “the olau west”.Like supercube mentioned i also used the rotterdam ipswitch ferry which only took so many accompanied lorreies.

Baby Spider:
i would be intrested to know about that too i can remember a few crossing with my dad and with allelys as a second man and one ship in perticular had railway lines i think it was called the nord pas des calais■■?

Ex sealink boat owned by Seafrance now.

There was 4 boats i think

Nord pas calias
Fantasia
Challager
Invictor

The challager was the best but the nord pas was crap I remember my dad arguing with the purser coz I wasnt paying for the meal the chcken was green.

What about hey hey lads the NORMANDIE SHIPPER, PURBECK, COUTANCES, BARFLEUR. Truckline ferries (Brttany Ferries) Poole - Cherbourg There some of the best boats NOT :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Barfleur good but not as good as the midnight merchant (Norfolkline).

Coutances always waiting for some Spainard and Porky to back up the Linkspan.

The Useless sorry Uylasees or the HSS 2 nice boats.

Superfast another good boat

European Causeway, Highlander and Ambassador ( Ambassador Now in the Baltic sea under Stena Line.

What about the Herald and free Enterprize and the Riverdance 2 cracking boats eh :wink:

You have all missed the best one !!! What about “The Cerdic” , was it Harwich ■■? to Rotterdam .

hi old trucker
the cerdic and galic also the european gateway were on the
felixstow to europort sailing,the gateway sunk just outside felixstow
when it hit a sealink ferry going into harwich

When was that “loosechange” ■■? cant remember that !!

old trucker,
if i remember correctly would have been about1979 - 1980 six killed three drivers and three crew.

lenny, IIRC it did not sink but lay on its side just off felixstowe, bit like the HOFE at Z/B, that would have been a couple of years before the HOFE.
another one was SOUTHERN FERRIES southampton-lisbon, i was in lisbon when there was a military coup, all borders were closed so the only way out was by boat, we were all parked in the docks and had to wait for the boat, i believe it was named THE EAGLE, it took a full load that weekend and i was in line for the next boat which would return on the wednesday, it was a day late coming back because they had loaded a trailer with a tracked machine on it, something like a huge digger, on the way over crossing the bay of biscay, the machine had broken loose, smashing everything on the car deck, when i got off at soton there was what had been a fridge trl, now just a set of tandem axles and the rest of the body in a heap beside it. mangled cars and caravans were everywhere.
there was chaos at soton because everybody without exception had to leave portugal by boat, the spanish and french hauliers were arguing that they should not have to pay because they didn’t want to get on the ferry to england in the first place, the italians, german and dutch wern’t so bad off, mileage wise, but the vehicles were still impounded until the freight was paid, then they still had to go to dover to get back home. as was mentioned earlier, i got home without touching france. result. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

yeh you are right bob,if i remember it laid on a sand bank,bloody good
ship and crew.i was working for westons of wickford at the time groupage
to rotterdam tip and load at smulling de leuw,back the same night,sometimes
use to do three trips a week