The fact that tenders for work would not have to be circulated around europe for any foreign contractors to take their pick should surely help Uk firms,remember the Italian outfit that got the contract for the Gretna stretch of the M74 they took of back to Italy without paying the last of the money to the contractors. Eddie.
Wheel Nut:
Yet more crap from geoffrey.Nissan is Britains most successful car manufacturer and for every single job it creates in the factory, it creates 3 more jobs in the local area with the suppliers. I cannot substantiate the job share at Toyota just down the road from me but know for a fact that there are many companies expanding in the Burton and Derby area who supply them.
Swindon and Deeside have Honda who again have local companies working with them. What about Ford, oh no. I forgot, his glorious Unions almost closed Dagenham Halewood and Bridgend. Where is most of the profitable Ford group now, oh yes owned by Tata in India. British Leyland by China
I think you’re forgetting how many workers we had employed in the car industry before we ever joined the EU and opened the doors to cheap foriegn competition,with the help of stupid and/or poverty stricken Brits who preferred to buy a not as good BMW for the money ( or in many cases financially had to) buy a Datsun than buy a V8 Rover,Triumph 2.5 or a Jag as they’d been able to during the 1960’s.No surprise that the government then diverted the issue into the bs one of so called better reliability of zb Japanese cars .Just as happened a bit later in the States when the bankers did the same thing to their car industry. 
del949:
and do you really think that if we pulled out and the EU continued in recession that they wouldn’t put up import barriers/tariffs ?
Which part of,we’ve been in trade deficit with the EEC/EU ever since we joined it and the global free market economy since that took off too so we’ve got nothing to lose and everything to gain by putting up the shutters,just as Peter Shore said ( and tried and failed to convince that idiot Wilson) ,don’t you understand. 
Dieseldog66:
You need to wake up and get with the times. East europeans havnt [zb] us at all, its the british greed culture thats [zb] us!
Try telling that to anyone who worked at the Peugeot plant in Coventry, and countless other jobs that have been exported to cheap eastern block countries.
It wasn’t just relocating to Slovakia and China though, the problem was that Ryton needed a major input of capital which PSA didn’t have and still don’t, they are divesting themselves of many older plants and have sold a major stake in GEFCO, the in house shipper. On the other hand large investments have been placed in the larger plants in France such as Tremery and Valenciennes
Sorry for the quotes, but you know who said what.
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Yet more crap from geoffrey.Nissan is Britains most successful car manufacturer and for every single job it creates in the factory, it creates 3 more jobs in the local area with the suppliers. I cannot substantiate the job share at Toyota just down the road from me but know for a fact that there are many companies expanding in the Burton and Derby area who supply them.
Swindon and Deeside have Honda who again have local companies working with them. What about Ford, oh no. I forgot, his glorious Unions almost closed Dagenham Halewood and Bridgend. Where is most of the profitable Ford group now, oh yes owned by Tata in India. British Leyland by China
I think you’re forgetting how many workers we had employed in the car industry before we ever joined the EU and opened the doors to cheap foriegn competition,with the help of stupid and/or poverty stricken Brits who preferred to buy a not as good BMW for the money ( or in many cases financially had to) buy a Datsun than buy a V8 Rover,Triumph 2.5 or a Jag as they’d been able to during the 1960’s.No surprise that the government then diverted the issue into the bs one of so called better reliability of zb Japanese cars .Just as happened a bit later in the States when the bankers did the same thing to their car industry.
Not everyone ran a V8 Rover 2.5Pi or Jaguars. My Grandma was in service, My stationmaster Grandad had one of the first cars in our village and it was a bullnose Morris. Datsun allowed the poverty stricken to get further down the road.
Besides if things were so great in your deluded past, how come there were so many poverty struck families? Everybody was better off according to you, yet they couldn’t afford a home grown Ford or Austin 7
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Yet more crap from geoffrey.Nissan is Britains most successful car manufacturer and for every single job it creates in the factory, it creates 3 more jobs in the local area with the suppliers. I cannot substantiate the job share at Toyota just down the road from me but know for a fact that there are many companies expanding in the Burton and Derby area who supply them.
Swindon and Deeside have Honda who again have local companies working with them. What about Ford, oh no. I forgot, his glorious Unions almost closed Dagenham Halewood and Bridgend. Where is most of the profitable Ford group now, oh yes owned by Tata in India. British Leyland by China
I think you’re forgetting how many workers we had employed in the car industry before we ever joined the EU and opened the doors to cheap foriegn competition,with the help of stupid and/or poverty stricken Brits who preferred to buy a not as good BMW for the money ( or in many cases financially had to) buy a Datsun than buy a V8 Rover,Triumph 2.5 or a Jag as they’d been able to during the 1960’s.No surprise that the government then diverted the issue into the bs one of so called better reliability of zb Japanese cars .Just as happened a bit later in the States when the bankers did the same thing to their car industry.
Not everyone ran a V8 Rover 2.5Pi or Jaguars. My Grandma was in service, My stationmaster Grandad had one of the first cars in our village and it was a bullnose Morris. Datsun allowed the poverty stricken to get further down the road.
Besides if things were so great in your deluded past, how come there were so many poverty struck families? Everybody was better off according to you, yet they couldn’t afford a home grown Ford or Austin 7
I don’t think that anyone needed to make the choice between buying an Austin 7 or a Datsun in 1967-72.Whereas in '72 there were plenty of people driving a late 1960’s big Triumph,Rover or Jag just as there had been plenty of people buying Zodiacs and Mk 2 Jags before that.Then we joined the EEC and turned 8% purchase tax into the VAT euro gravy train,european imports,price harmonisation,and millions of pounds in euro contributions which mean’t that all most people could afford was a cheap Jap import while the few that made money out of flogging imports or investing money in Europe bought an over priced Porsche,BMW or a Merc.The rest is history.
How many lorry drivers were driving newish jags or big triumphs in the late 60s early 70s. I’m guessing more were driving a ford cortina or Austin Cambridge
I’ve chosen for you not to stay…
Would save the rest of Europe at least 40 million euro’s a day with Britten no longer being a member…
( I’d better grab my coat on the way out… 
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kr79:
How many lorry drivers were driving newish jags or big triumphs in the late 60s early 70s. I’m guessing more were driving a ford cortina or Austin Cambridge
It was actually possible to buy and run one of those old Triumphs or Jag earning ( a lot ) less than the wage of a class 1 or even 2 driver.The things were everywhere during the early 1970’s.
I’ve still got some old examples of adverts from at least 1973.A decent '69 1600 E cost around £650 at that time,a '68 3.8 S type Jag £750 and a '69 Triumph 2.5 PI around £850.Although after the fuel price increases it was posible to buy a decent 5 year old example of the Triumph for around £500 by '77 and even less for the Jag. 
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So like how it’s possible now to buy a few year old jag s class merc or 7 series BMW for the same as a couple of year old focus. Your choice some will choose the old motor with bigger running costs others pick the focus and have a few quid to spend on other things.
kr79:
So like how it’s possible now to buy a few year old jag s class merc or 7 series BMW for the same as a couple of year old focus. Your choice some will choose the old motor with bigger running costs others pick the focus and have a few quid to spend on other things.
Not exactly no.I think you’ve missed the relative years of each different car in that comparison.They were all within around a year of the same age as each other.IE 1969 in the case of the Ford and the Triumph and ‘68 in the case of the Jag.It was more a choice between paying over the odds for an overrated 1600 E or pay around three weeks’/month’s extra wages for the better Jag or the Triumph.
The only problem with the Jag being it’s extra running costs compared to the Cortina or the Triumph which is why the Triumph was valued at more than both and it’s also why Jeff Uren decided to put the 3 Litre V6 in the Cortina but that still didn’t make it handle like the Triumph which is why the police kept buying the Triumph in large quantities but didn’t go for V6 powered Cortinas.
Which gives me a good excuse to post this again .
Although having said that the Granada was a different matter as shown by it’s use in the Sweeney and in real life police service.
youtube.com/watch?v=CCd7if8eRsU
As for me it was only that issue of running costs compared to my wages as a trainee factory worker which stopped me,at least during the 1970’s,buying a Jag.
The relevant bit though is that the choice,at that time,was mostly all about British made cars not European imports.
So now we’ve got an alliance between a Federalist US government that ‘says’ it’s all for ‘democracy’ when it suits it but obviously not when it doesn’t ( no surprise there ever since Lincoln won the US civil war ) and ze Germans saying that ‘you haf been varned’ ( no surprise there being that the EU is all about jobs for German workers paid for by the British ). Hopefully Farage will have have the bottle to tell them both to zb off but it all seems a bit quiet from UKIP head office so far. 