Jelliot:
That’s a still from the Rotta Karachi film, I think that’s a bit farther down the road than Tahir. Tahir is more open than that and less sandy, If I remember right that bit was in Afghanastan. It actually says on the comentery where it is, I’ll have look tomorow.
Jeff…
I was only going by the jpg label which says, ‘history tahir mountain original’ on it! I must admit I was a little surprised too because I believe the Tahir terrain is different from that and, as you say, more open. Afghanistan looks more like it!
Incidentally, I described those Chinese lorries on the KKH as container trucks. Looking closer, I notice that those trailers are typical modern Chinese vans, ribbed for extra pleasure: ie integral container-with-chassis design. Some of these started to appear on Morocco work when I was doing it, but in the guise of garment trailers, because the going had become way tougher than before. They were certainly more robust than the others, with recessed door handles that could be locked away. Robert
So I spent some of the day watching my copy of Rotta Karachi. It was made before Destination Doha when the Bosperus was being built so the had to go on the ferry. 3 Rynart trading Fiat 619 double drives going from Rotterdam to Karachi, 4 drivers Thyws Fremery, Albert Muldery, Hans Ouwens, and Frans Yanssen, the route is 21,380 km return, of which 4260 is desert and 2120 is mountains. Hollnd, Germany, Yougloslavia, Bulgaria, Trukey, Iran and Pakistan.
There’s a bit of footage round the office and warehouse but isn’t much road footage through Europe before Turkey. Blue mosque, Bazar, chai on the ferry then and bit of road and the Tahir. Into Iran,a bit of tourist stuff, the old bridge at Pol-e-Donkta,then just desert. between that and the photo you put up there’ s about 10 minutes.
Lucky for me it was filmed by CineFiat and was dubed into Italian and even though my Itilian is now less than it used to be I managed to make out that the guy was saying that even though the mighty Tahir is a bit of hike, there are many more like this Devils Cannion in Central Iran around Mirjaweh that have to be negotiated as an everyday obsticle for your long distance driver.
At the end of it there are some photos that Ferdy added, and some of the are by a dude that was driving either a Transconti or an F88 called Ian Taylor 
Jeff…
Mirjaweh bank, then! That’s another nasty hill to add to the list. Thanks for taking the trouble to give us that Jeff, it just makes it all so much more interesting. By the way, you mentioned that it was taken ‘while the Bosphorous was being built’ . I assume you omitted the word ‘bridge’! Robert
No ! Those Fiats have been around since the beginning of time…
How do you think they go the Ark up Mt Ararat, and they spent 40 days and 40 nights waiting in the queue at Gurbulak/ Bazragan.
Jeff…
Here’s one from your area of operation Jeff: a climb on the Naryn to Bishkek road Kirgizstan. Robert
The tyres on that tipper look like they will be doing a bit screaming. There’s a tunnel up there, the highest tunnel in the world. Also a fav place for Teleban to go truck hunting with RPG’s.
Rynart lost a couple up there in the last few years doing US forces deliveries to Kabul…
Jeff…
Jelliot:
The tyres on that tipper look like they will be doing a bit screaming. There’s a tunnel up there, the highest tunnel in the world. Also a fav place for Teleban to go truck hunting with RPG’s.
Rynart lost a couple up there in the last few years doing US forces deliveries to Kabul…
Jeff…
I thought the picture of the tipper on the hairpin was in Chile…
Were you thinking of the Salang Pass in Afghanistan? Picture below. Robert
Salang, that’s the one with the tunnel. The photo with the Merc looks a bit to tropical.
We only had permission to use route 2 ( the old silk road ) it dipped into Kyrgyzstan in a couple of places. Most of that was sealed which was a nice change from bumping up and down the M32.
The road from Bishkek to Naryn runs through the Kirgizskiy mountains which always looked dark and imposing. Everything in that area was shades of gray, and often looked desperate although the people were usually friendly.
Jeff…
Is this what your Bosphorous looked like when it was being built? Robert
Something like that but a bit more Yellow with an underlying odour of goats cheeze.
Jeff…
Jelliot:
So I spent some of the day watching my copy of Rotta Karachi. It was made before Destination Doha when the Bosperus was being built so the had to go on the ferry. 3 Rynart trading Fiat 619 double drives going from Rotterdam to Karachi, 4 drivers Thyws Fremery, Albert Muldery, Hans Ouwens, and Frans Yanssen, the route is 21,380 km return, of which 4260 is desert and 2120 is mountains. Hollnd, Germany, Yougloslavia, Bulgaria, Trukey, Iran and Pakistan.
There’s a bit of footage round the office and warehouse but isn’t much road footage through Europe before Turkey. Blue mosque, Bazar, chai on the ferry then and bit of road and the Tahir. Into Iran,a bit of tourist stuff, the old bridge at Pol-e-Donkta,then just desert. between that and the photo you put up there’ s about 10 minutes.
Lucky for me it was filmed by CineFiat and was dubed into Italian and even though my Itilian is now less than it used to be I managed to make out that the guy was saying that even though the mighty Tahir is a bit of hike, there are many more like this Devils Cannion in Central Iran around Mirjaweh that have to be negotiated as an everyday obsticle for your long distance driver.
At the end of it there are some photos that Ferdy added, and some of the are by a dude that was driving either a Transconti or an F88 called Ian Taylor
Jeff…
Those double drive FIATs are 697’s and virtually unbreakable.
Jelliot:
At the end of it there are some photos that Ferdy added, and some of the are by a dude that was driving either a Transconti or an F88 called Ian Taylor
Jeff…
I only did Teheran twice, once in an 88 and once in a Transcon!
My Dad ran a couple of 619’s I didn’t know the double drive had a differant number 697 but there you go I know now.
They certainly look like they were given a hammering in the movie, some shots show the fuel tanks and landing legs grounding out on rough roads, some of it looks a bit set up though. But a fairly good film to watch.
Jeff…
robert1952:
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That looks like the drop down into Merritt heading south on Hwy5 from Kamloops. I came down there today, downhill cruise set at 100km/h and never even looked at the brake pedal.
Different story fully freighted or when the road is knee deep in snow of course.
newmercman:
robert1952:
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That looks like the drop down into Merritt heading south on Hwy5 from Kamloops. I came down there today, downhill cruise set at 100km/h and never even looked at the brake pedal.
Different story fully freighted or when the road is knee deep in snow of course.
Glad you posted that! I very nearly didn’t include that pic as I thought folk might not relate to a Canadian descent on the other side of the world; and there’s you actually on the ■■■■ thing!! Robert 
Jelliot:
My Dad ran a couple of 619’s I didn’t know the double drive had a differant number 697 but there you go I know now.
They certainly look like they were given a hammering in the movie, some shots show the fuel tanks and landing legs grounding out on rough roads, some of it looks a bit set up though. But a fairly good film to watch.
Jeff…
Having been a foreman in a FIAT dealers workshop before I started on m/e, I know me FIATs.
It was the dealer I worked for that supplied all the FIATs that Chapman and Ball ran.
I didn’t know at the time I would be driving one of them!
bestbooties:
Jelliot:
My Dad ran a couple of 619’s I didn’t know the double drive had a differant number 697 but there you go I know now.
They certainly look like they were given a hammering in the movie, some shots show the fuel tanks and landing legs grounding out on rough roads, some of it looks a bit set up though. But a fairly good film to watch.
Jeff…
Having been a foreman in a FIAT dealers workshop before I started on m/e, I know me FIATs.
It was the dealer I worked for that supplied all the FIATs that Chapman and Ball ran.
I didn’t know at the time I would be driving one of them!
Evening all, Bestbootie, perhaps you would not know…but what a crooked bunch of “barstewards” those lads at Commercial Engineers really were!!!
I had the job of trying to get back the funds that had “disappeared” from that establishment…
If I remember rightly we , and Fiat…(IOlaf Le Roi Den Hoeg…and Peter Walker,…then )put Peter Colby, (Peter Colby Commercials, of Wymondham), in charge and he did get the monies back from the original members…(but Peter would, and could)!!!
Ah but ■■■■ Chapman…what can one say…
Now we have the cowboys…where are the Indians…
Bit like Mdme Stouffes outfit…
Perhaps another day, and you were better off with Ron, (or was it Rod),in your day , Carmen…hard but (relatively), honest!!
The only link to the thread… is the steep hill up to Commercial Engineers operation on Sneyd Hill Stoke on Trent
Apologies…
Cheerio for now.
How about Clows Top , back in the 60s, many a S Wales wagon struggled up to Mamble , before the M50 was built . regards Keith
