Question After Completing First Class 1 Shift

eagerbeaver:
You are a flap Nowak.

A huge ■■■■■■■■■

Maybe so, but I didn’t have to dig my spanners out [emoji3]

eagerbeaver:
Mick. If/when you ’ do it in one ', do nor expect applause or fireworks lol.

The object of the exercise is to stick the trailer where you need it mate. Trust me mate, even when it looks like people are watching you, they probably aren’t. We are just staring into space, reflecting on not listening at school.

Beaver went to a very good school. I do believe it was “approved”

I found it special. It suited my needs.

aye some days you canny reverse for toffee and others blindside 1st time…lol I was asked to reverse on tae a ferry with a wagon an drag (turntable) 1st day driving it …after 10mins the shunter says drop it we will put it on …now that was a redfaced day!! :blush: :blush:

Nailed it without having to take a single shunt!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Got in the right position to start with, reversed back to around about the start of the bay markings, got out opened the trailer doors, had a good look at the position of the trailer then slowly slowly backed it straight onto the bay… … Hooray!!! :smiley:

All the help and tips given here definitely helped me along - so cheers to everyone who has helped !! :smiley:

The DC I was at has acres of space so I still need to keep practising because I know that I am not going to that spoilt for space at most other places.

Any further tips for reversing into bays when the space in front is limited?

I find it more difficult to park up between two trailers, I think this is partly down to the thought of it - with either side having something to hit and damage, any tips?

PaulNowak:

Evil8Beezle:

Contraflow:

MickyB666:
Thanks for the help and advise…

Still no thanks for the badge you so desperately wanted though. I’ve a good mind to take it back and edit it out you ungrateful [zb].

This badge?

That you now can’t edit out…

Beez is now handing out Class 1 badges■■?

Bet he’ll get a suit made out of them if and when he ever passes his [emoji6]

that’s a big if paul! lol

That’s a special Beezle badge with him cowering in the passenger footwell, terrified to go sit in the other side.

“It’s just too big and bendy!!!”

Micky- the concern about damaging somebodys unit is understandable. But if you think logically, you know there is enough room.

Get the trailer in a position where you put a reasonable amount of lock on, so that you are presenting the trailer ’ straight ’ between the obstacles. If you are too close to the other wagons, you risk being on too shallow a line, and could clip something with the ’ furthest ’ corner of your trailer.

Once you get the correct bend, just concentrate on ONE of the lines (obviously the drivers side line on your good side).

If you get all your tyres lined up nicely on ’ your ’ painted line, it stands to reason that you are straight. Worse case scenario is that it is quite a wide bay, and the dock leveller may not sit properly. Now you are parked nice and straight with clear mirrors, easiest thing in the world to pull forward, and reverse smack down the middle.

eagerbeaver:
Micky- the concern about damaging somebodys unit is understandable. But if you think logically, you know there is enough room.

Get the trailer in a position where you put a reasonable amount of lock on, so that you are presenting the trailer ’ straight ’ between the obstacles. If you are too close to the other wagons, you risk being on too shallow a line, and could clip something with the ’ furthest ’ corner of your trailer.

Once you get the correct bend, just concentrate on ONE of the lines (obviously the drivers side line on your good side).

If you get all your tyres lined up nicely on ’ your ’ painted line, it stands to reason that you are straight. Worse case scenario is that it is quite a wide bay, and the dock leveller may not sit properly. Now you are parked nice and straight with clear mirrors, easiest thing in the world to pull forward, and reverse smack down the middle.

Breaks my heart, but I do have to agree with this knob end

I am Okay when there is acres of space but still struggling when the space is limited, I know it is all about getting the truck into the right position to start with and I think that I have worked out that when there is less space available I need to drive a bit further over the space that I am reversing into then go over a harder with the steering and straighten up.

It will just take time, patience and practice. It sounds like you’re making progress.

I realise that that doesn’t seem very helpful, but there’s really no shortcut to getting good at reversing. Keep getting practice, setting yourself challenges if necessary - if you think you’ve mastered it when you’ve got lots of room, imagine that there’s a wall restricting your space (assuming that you’ve got the time to spare and you’re not holding anyone up).

And I have all this fun to come, I think ive got to stop being a ■■■■■ driving class 2 and put my class one licence to good use!

eagerbeaver:
I was really pleased when I completed my first few reverses in between the lines. Gave myself a big pat on the shoulder.

10 miles down the road when I remembered that I had left my number plate on the trailer, I wasn’t so smug.

Lol,been there done that…its all part of the learning process,
Youll get a few experts on here wholl say,naw that never happened to me,its all BS…happen to everyone,

MickyB666:
I completed my first shift on Class 1 last night and now feel like a proper trucker and I think that I really ought to be awarded a special badge to recognise this achievement. :laughing:

I was rubbish at getting it lined up on the bay, what is the best thing to use in order to get the truck lined up and square on? When I try to line up with the painted bay marking guide lines the mirrors make them appear narrower at the rear and wider at the front, they don’t all seem to be painted on squarely either - I noticed last night that one side of the truck was parallel with the line whereas the other side was running at an angle :confused: The banana wheel guides are a bit too far away to be able to see clearly enough to judge it completely accurately and just aiming for the bay itself is not accurate enough, no doubt I will get better with more experience but does anyone have any tips to help me along a bit?

I find it best to line up on the lines on the flaps…i have had the same issue with mirror though,looks like back end is further away from line than front or vise versa,try and move your mirror to a different angle…

I have managed to get the reverse more under control and can at least reverse into the space that I am aiming for, it is just the fine tuning to line up with the wheel guides or bay markings that I need more practice with. The job I am currently working only requires 3 to 4 reverses during the shift and sometimes less so opportunities to practice are limited.

I will share what I have learned so far for those just starting out like me… …

  1. Trying to rush things only makes it harder and takes more time, with reversing you have to slow down in order to speed up - It is best to take your time!
  2. Don’t worry about those watching or what anyone else might be thinking - keep calm and carry on.
  3. It is easier to reverse when you start from the right position.
  4. I have to get out of the habit of over doing it with the steering!!! Lining up and making small adjustments/corrections reversing back onto the bay is easier than ranging from lock to lock.
  5. Buying a £6 toy Morrison’s toy artic truck and using it to view angles and positions has helped.
  6. Having a good look and thinking about the reverse before and during the procedure helps, I have a good look at the position of the truck\trailer when opening the trailer doors and formulate a plan before getting back in the cab.
  7. Drive further forwards and allow more room for the procedure - it’s bigger than what you think.
  8. I need to straighten up the steering earlier when chasing the trailer back as I have a tendency to over do it.
  9. You need to concentrate all the time, messed one or two up by taking my eye off the ball when I thought all I had to do was roll it in.
  10. It takes time to master reversing and it’s going to take a lot of practice before I can feel accomplished at it.
  11. It doesn’t matter how many shunts it takes.
  12. If some offers to help don’t rely on them 100% - I nearly clipped another trailer reversing under the guidance of a helper who had decided part way through the process of guiding me back to go and have a chat with another driver.
  13. The tips from the other drivers given here really helps - thanks chaps!

The Angry Driver?
I was sat in the truck on the bay and watched a couple of drivers reverse into the two empty bays at the side of me, the first driver was reversing into the next but one bay and had a tight reverse due to another truck parking up in the space to the front of the bay, I was impressed by how well he managed it - he took a couple of shunts forwards but was slow and smooth. By the time the next driver came along the space had opened up as the parked truck had moved, the second driver came in quite fast, braked hard, stopped then shot forwards, came back fast and hit the wheel guides, shot forwards again then reversed back fast scrapped the rear trailer bar down one of the wheel guides, jerked forwards again, reversed back and scrapped the rear trailer bar down the wheel guide again, repeated this a couple of times before landing on the bay. I got the impression that he was an experienced driver who was just pssed off with the world and thought that if he rammed it hard enough he could force it onto the bay… I could be wrong thinking this, it might be a truck with a jumpy auto g\box that was making it look bad but first impressions led me to think that this guy is pssed off about something.

PaulNowak:
That’s a special Beezle badge with him cowering in the passenger footwell, terrified to go sit in the other side.

“It’s just too big and bendy!!!”

Got lots of badges mate, along with a Chief Sea Scouts Award. So that sounds appealing mate! :laughing:
Plus I’m already driving the Artic’s around our yard, so I was thinking the design of the badge should be more along the lines of me leaning out the drivers window and extending my middle finger in your direction! :grimacing:

So scared mate? No, not a chance!!!
Just aware that I have a different set of considerations when driving an Artic, compared to those of a Rigid.
For example, I don’t want to look a bellend by taking something out with the headboard! :laughing:

And as for Ash saying “IF” I pass, I haven’t failed it yet mate…
Just because you fluked them both first time. And i’m still on course pal! :wink:

MickyB666:
I have managed to get the reverse more under control and can at least reverse into the space that I am aiming for, it is just the fine tuning to line up with the wheel guides or bay markings that I need more practice with. The job I am currently working only requires 3 to 4 reverses during the shift and sometimes less so opportunities to practice are limited.

I will share what I have learned so far for those just starting out like me… …

  1. Trying to rush things only makes it harder and takes more time, with reversing you have to slow down in order to speed up - It is best to take your time!
  2. Don’t worry about those watching or what anyone else might be thinking - keep calm and carry on.
  3. It is easier to reverse when you start from the right position.
  4. I have to get out of the habit of over doing it with the steering!!! Lining up and making small adjustments/corrections reversing back onto the bay is easier than ranging from lock to lock.
  5. Buying a £6 toy Morrison’s toy artic truck and using it to view angles and positions has helped.
  6. Having a good look and thinking about the reverse before and during the procedure helps, I have a good look at the position of the truck\trailer when opening the trailer doors and formulate a plan before getting back in the cab.
  7. Drive further forwards and allow more room for the procedure - it’s bigger than what you think.
  8. I need to straighten up the steering earlier when chasing the trailer back as I have a tendency to over do it.
  9. You need to concentrate all the time, messed one or two up by taking my eye off the ball when I thought all I had to do was roll it in.
  10. It takes time to master reversing and it’s going to take a lot of practice before I can feel accomplished at it.
  11. It doesn’t matter how many shunts it takes.
  12. If some offers to help don’t rely on them 100% - I nearly clipped another trailer reversing under the guidance of a helper who had decided part way through the process of guiding me back to go and have a chat with another driver.
  13. The tips from the other drivers given here really helps - thanks chaps!

The Angry Driver?
I was sat in the truck on the bay and watched a couple of drivers reverse into the two empty bays at the side of me, the first driver was reversing into the next but one bay and had a tight reverse due to another truck parking up in the space to the front of the bay, I was impressed by how well he managed it - he took a couple of shunts forwards but was slow and smooth. By the time the next driver came along the space had opened up as the parked truck had moved, the second driver came in quite fast, braked hard, stopped then shot forwards, came back fast and hit the wheel guides, shot forwards again then reversed back fast scrapped the rear trailer bar down one of the wheel guides, jerked forwards again, reversed back and scrapped the rear trailer bar down the wheel guide again, repeated this a couple of times before landing on the bay. I got the impression that he was an experienced driver who was just pssed off with the world and thought that if he rammed it hard enough he could force it onto the bay… I could be wrong thinking this, it might be a truck with a jumpy auto g\box that was making it look bad but first impressions led me to think that this guy is pssed off about something.

Sorry for hijacking your thread a bit Micky! :smiley:

Anyway, great post you made there, and I did actually LOL when i read number 6. However, i agree that it’s probably a good idea! :laughing:
Glad you have sussed it, and I found staying relaxed and calm makes my VAN reversing easier! :grimacing:

Evil8Beezle:

PaulNowak:
That’s a special Beezle badge with him cowering in the passenger footwell, terrified to go sit in the other side.

“It’s just too big and bendy!!!”

For example, I don’t want to look a bellend by taking something out with the headboard! :laughing:

Was only a mirror, pillock shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

PaulNowak:
Was only a mirror, pillock shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

The funniest part of that mate, is that I had no knowledge of that accident…

But i do now you bellend! :grimacing:

Thought Don from our place had alerted everyone in the UK with a HGV licence.