Question After Completing First Class 1 Shift

Drove Class 1 for Brakes today - the reversing hasn’t got any better :blush:

Took a run to Bidvest in Royton and was told to stick it on Bay One… … … after having a look at where Bay One was I didn’t fancy my chances of getting it on there from the outset and after 25 shunts the staff at Bidvest finally agreed with me and said Bay 3 would be OK, which was good because it only took me another 15 quick shunts to get it in position on Bay 3.

I am sure the [zb] gave me the most difficult bay it was tucked in the corner behind the fuelling station - although having said that I am certain it wouldn’t be any problems at all for the more experienced driver.

One helpful person did at least try to assist by shouting profanities at me and letting me know that he didn’t have all [zb] day, funnily enough I still struggled despite this. :laughing:

It can only get better. :open_mouth:

… … … And I still enjoyed it! :smiley:

Don’t worry about it. It’ll take you weeks, if not months, to get to a standard of “not completely incompetent”. It certainly did for me.

I’ve got probably about a year’s worth of trucking under my belt, and whilst I couldn’t claim to be good at it, I’m at least passable.

Ignore the [zb]holes that have a go; they’ve conveniently forgotten that they were just as bad as you when they started…

Comments I saw elsewhere on this forum about using every opportunity to practice are a good idea - esp. if you stop at an empty-ish MSA for a break - get a bit of practice in getting parked rather than just dumping it in the middle of a large open area. If you have an opportunity to practice reversing at your leisure where you’re not inconveniencing anyone and there’s too much to hit, take advantage of it… :slight_smile:

MrFlibble:
Don’t worry about it. It’ll take you weeks, if not months, to get to a standard of “not completely incompetent”. It certainly did for me.
I’ve got probably about a year’s worth of trucking under my belt, and whilst I couldn’t claim to be good at it, I’m at least passable.
Ignore the [zb]holes that have a go; they’ve conveniently forgotten that they were just as bad as you when they started…
Comments I saw elsewhere on this forum about using every opportunity to practice are a good idea - esp. if you stop at an empty-ish MSA for a break - get a bit of practice in getting parked rather than just dumping it in the middle of a large open area. If you have an opportunity to practice reversing at your leisure where you’re not inconveniencing anyone and there’s too much to hit, take advantage of it… :slight_smile:

Thanks for the help and advise, MrFlibble and All. :smiley:

I have just completed shift No 3 and I have been sneaking in extra reversing practice when the opportunity to do so arises, I have been working nights trunking to NDC’s and RDC’s so it is less busy. I have been taking my time when reversing and getting out of the cab a lot to check on the position of the trailer, one to make sure I am not going to hit anything and two to get a better perspective on where the trailer is in comparison to where I think it is and to what I am seeing in the mirrors. I do think I have got a bit better, still slow but I would sooner take it steady than rush it and make costly mistakes.

It seems to be one of those things the more you do it the better you get . Practicing reversing when in a quiet area is always helpful as you get used to the movement of the trailer and where it is going in your mirrors . Shunts are not a problem just make sure you go forward far enough to get the trailer in more of a position to suit you . And as someone said the buffer bars are a great target to line up on as you get close .

Just remember, the number of shunts you have to take is ALWAYS directly proportional to the number of folk watching.

The first time you properly nail it in one, there will not be a single witness!

One of the best pieces of advice I ever got regarding reversing is before you start the reverse make sure truck and trailer are in a straight line. I know this isn’t always going to be possible but it helped me. Try it

MickyB666:
Thanks for the help and advise…

Still no thanks for the badge you so desperately wanted though. I’ve a good mind to take it back and edit it out you ungrateful ■■■■■

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MickyB666:
Thanks for the help and advise…

Still no thanks for the badge you so desperately wanted though. I’ve a good mind to take it back and edit it out you ungrateful [zb].

This badge?

That you now can’t edit out…

Evil8Beezle:

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MickyB666:
Thanks for the help and advise…

Still no thanks for the badge you so desperately wanted though. I’ve a good mind to take it back and edit it out you ungrateful [zb].

This badge?

That you now can’t edit out…

Beez is now handing out Class 1 badges■■?

Bet he’ll get a suit made out of them if and when he ever passes his [emoji6]

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MickyB666:
Thanks for the help and advise…

Still no thanks for the badge you so desperately wanted though. I’ve a good mind to take it back and edit it out you ungrateful [zb].

:laughing:

Sorry - Thank you so much for the badge it is absolutely fantastic, perfect in every way and just what I always wanted and your generosity in sharing the badge is so much appreciated. :smiley:

It gave me a chuckle when I saw it and you do deserve credit for making the effort - Sorry I forgot to mention it - I am a bad man and will go sit on the naughty step for an hour. :smiling_imp:

Should I also award myself this badge? Or is there some one else more deserving than me?

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MickyB666:
Drove Class 1 for Brakes today - the reversing hasn’t got any better :blush:

Took a run to Bidvest in Royton and was told to stick it on Bay One… … … after having a look at where Bay One was I didn’t fancy my chances of getting it on there from the outset and after 25 shunts the staff at Bidvest finally agreed with me and said Bay 3 would be OK, which was good because it only took me another 15 quick shunts to get it in position on Bay 3.

Lots of good advice and encouragement on here already and I’ll probably repeat most of it.

It takes practice, I remember when I started taking over 20 attempts to get on a bay with everybody from other drivers to forklift divers watching and waiting. It was a horrible little place not enough room to get straight and no line to follow onto the bay, but most of it was down to lack of experience.

Tips I have for reversing.
As has been said if you’re going to take a shunt, go far enough to make it work, a lot of new drivers seem afraid to go as far as they need and just end up taking loads of small shunts.

get the trailer pointing the right direction, you don’t have to be straight, but if the back of the trailer is lined up it makes it far easier.

Keep it smooth, try not to go from lock to lock.

Keep calm, once you start to get stressed then you start making basic mistakes, some of us will look at you and think must be new, “I was there once” some might even help, I will especially if I think my truck is in danger. :laughing: The other who take the ■■■■ aren’t even worth worrying about.

PaulNowak:
Beez is now handing out Class 1 badges■■?

Bet he’ll get a suit made out of them if and when he ever passes his [emoji6]

Straight in there with a dig eh Paul? - Don’t blame ya mate! :laughing:

Yes I have to pull my finger out and get on with that, as this Class 2 crap is killing me…
I don’t even have time to wipe my backside properly at present, and don’t think I’ve even been this tired…
Had a nightmare few days, and while I’d love to post some of it on the forum, it wouldn’t be appropriate or sensible for me to do so!!!

So believe me mate, i’m HIGHLY motivated to get my Class 1, and one of the two personal things I was waiting on to get sorted is done, and the second one I’m saying bollox too! :laughing: And plan, WITHOUT DOUBT to book my Class 1 this week. I just hope PSTT’s waiting list isn’t currently too long for the big Artic.

MickyB666:
Should I also award myself this badge? Or is there some one else more deserving than me?

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Micky, there’s only one golden bellend on this site, and while I don’t want to say who it is! :smiley:
Don’t be too EAGER to try and pry that badge out of his cold dead hand, as he won’t want to give it up easily! :laughing:

Evil8Beezle:
I don’t even have time to wipe my backside properly at present…

It’s okay, you’re agency, substandard levels of personal hygiene are expected.

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Evil8Beezle:
I don’t even have time to wipe my backside properly at present…

It’s okay, you’re agency, substandard levels of personal hygiene are expected.

I’m learning! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Evil8Beezle:

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Evil8Beezle:
I don’t even have time to wipe my backside properly at present…

It’s okay, you’re agency, substandard levels of personal hygiene are expected.

I’m learning!

Not quick enough. You should have quit wiping altogether by now.

muckles:
…get the trailer pointing the right direction, you don’t have to be straight, but if the back of the trailer is lined up it makes it far easier.

I think I have been concentrating too much on the reversing part and should instead be focussing more on getting the truck/trailer into the right position before starting the reversing manoeuvre, I think I am making the reverse much more difficult than it should be by not getting into the correct position to start with.

I have noticed that once I have the trailer in a position where I can see the space I am reversing into I can quite easily manage the manoeuvre however I am finding it difficult getting into this position, I am having to take several shunts to get into a position where I have the truck/trailer lined up with the space I am reversing into and during the shunting manoeuvres I am loosing the view of the back end in the mirrors and I am having to get out and have a look to see where the back end is in relation to where I think it is and where I need it to be.

I am also guilty of not pulling far enough forwards to make a shunt count mainly because I fail to appreciate the length of the vehicle, it always feels like I have moved quite a long way forward but when I get out and have a look the back end is never as far forward as I had imagined.

Any more tips on getting into a good start position?

If for instance I need to drop a trailer off and I am driving forwards along side a line of trailers on my left hand side and spot an available space is there a marker I could use to give me a clue as to when I should swing over to the right in order to bring the truck/trailer into line leaving the back end of the trailer nicely in line with the available space - assuming that there is ample space to the right.

Any more tips on getting into a good start position?

If for instance I need to drop a trailer off and I am driving forwards along side a line of trailers on my left hand side and spot an available space is there a marker I could use to give me a clue as to when I should swing over to the right in order to bring the truck/trailer into line leaving the back end of the trailer nicely in line with the available space - assuming that there is ample space to the right.
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If you mean just slotting it in between a row of trailers on your left, then the simple way would be to go past far over to the right and u turn so the space is on your right, so your now on same side as trailers then as you get level with the space, turn out to your left until your at a nice angle with your unit and trailer to just bend it into the space, I find if you imagine a clock face and your trailer is going into a space at 6 o’clock, try to get your trailer and unti pointing to 1 o’clock, I find this better than going for 12 o’clock with a nice straight reverse back.
But everyone has they’re own favourite way you will find the one your most comfortable with soon enough.

MickyB666:

muckles:
…get the trailer pointing the right direction, you don’t have to be straight, but if the back of the trailer is lined up it makes it far easier.

I think I have been concentrating too much on the reversing part and should instead be focussing more on getting the truck/trailer into the right position before starting the reversing manoeuvre, I think I am making the reverse much more difficult than it should be by not getting into the correct position to start with.

I have noticed that once I have the trailer in a position where I can see the space I am reversing into I can quite easily manage the manoeuvre however I am finding it difficult getting into this position, I am having to take several shunts to get into a position where I have the truck/trailer lined up with the space I am reversing into and during the shunting manoeuvres I am loosing the view of the back end in the mirrors and I am having to get out and have a look to see where the back end is in relation to where I think it is and where I need it to be.

I am also guilty of not pulling far enough forwards to make a shunt count mainly because I fail to appreciate the length of the vehicle, it always feels like I have moved quite a long way forward but when I get out and have a look the back end is never as far forward as I had imagined.

Any more tips on getting into a good start position?

If for instance I need to drop a trailer off and I am driving forwards along side a line of trailers on my left hand side and spot an available space is there a marker I could use to give me a clue as to when I should swing over to the right in order to bring the truck/trailer into line leaving the back end of the trailer nicely in line with the available space - assuming that there is ample space to the right.

Sort of tough questions and something that comes with experience, if you go to a regular place you’ll pick up marker points to get into the start position, even subconsciously.

Had a few of newly qualified artic drivers working with me in the past, one used to over think about manouvering and end up tying himself in knots, then panic and then go the wrong way. I think he’s given up driving trucks and doing something else another lacked confidence, but he listened, learned and after a while he was pretty good, but mainly it was about confidence and experience.

I knew he’d sussed it when he reversed out of a race circuit paddock in the dark, during pack up time. Thing are pretty chaotic at pack up time, with trucks, people and equipment everywhere. I watched him back, but only for safety, he planned and executed the manoeuvre without having any advice from me. :smiley:

I’d find it difficult to tell you when to start a manoeuvre to get the trailer right, it’s really the type of thing that some with experience, seems pretty second nature to me now.
but when heading to the bay have a look opposite the bay and on the ground for reference points, like joins in the tarmac or concrete, or something opposite the bay.