Not sure “hundreds of years” - in 1950 the animal populations, the rainforests and the ice caps were nowhere near the disaster zones they are now - David attenborough says he’s seen the worst declines since he started tv in the 60s.
And the problem with us saying “Im not doing owt till Brazil and China do” is that they say you’ve caused all your damage and now you expect us to save you. We have to try and set some kind of example or we havnt a leg to stand on.
Bit I do think in 50 years our lids will be breathing thick smog - the capitalists want to ride their gravy train right into the ground rather than change.
Narc:
What we need is a realist political party that will over turn all this heavy theft/ taxation,also the BS doom and gloom lies about the climate change which is of course all about ripping us off with more taxes.I will always avoid paying parking fees anywhere I go, I find the spots just away from anywhere I need to visit.Local councils are getting worse for ruining local areas…They are Labour near me and want to turn the City into a student immigrant import dump.
Eh? So the Amazon being cut down is leftist propaganda? The polar ice caps arn’t melting? It’s all just a ruse by Harriet Harman? Don’t be daft.
BTW, the tories are in control of migration policy - not Labour.
Don’t you ever get embarassed while chatting so much ■■■ all day every day?
JeffA:
Not sure “hundreds of years” - in 1950 the animal populations, the rainforests and the ice caps were nowhere near the disaster zones they are now - David attenborough says he’s seen the worst declines since he started tv in the 60s.
And the problem with us saying “Im not doing owt till Brazil and China do” is that they say you’ve caused all your damage and now you expect us to save you. We have to try and set some kind of example or we havnt a leg to stand on.
Bit I do think in 50 years our lids will be breathing thick smog - the capitalists want to ride their gravy train right into the ground rather than change.
Ok if not hundreds let’s say 120 to 150.
No curbs or limits,.but a free for all in pollution up to as you say 60s or 70s when the damage was already done.
So 50 to 60 years reducing those levels considerably, and in some cases to the absolute minimum.
So as I said ice caps ,.global warming etc,.damage already done,.so then came the revolutionary damage limitation and vast improvements in many industries .
I am NOT saying there is not a problem by any means, what I am saying is there is a lot of misguided info imo, and exaggeration, both used as a bloody good excuse to make some money out of it.
Instead of penalizing motorists, have a look at the pollution caused by China alone,.far more problems caused there 100+ fold, than me in me crappy Mondeo.
Narc:
What we need is a realist political party that will over turn all this heavy theft/ taxation,also the BS doom and gloom lies about the climate change which is of course all about ripping us off with more taxes.I will always avoid paying parking fees anywhere I go, I find the spots just away from anywhere I need to visit.Local councils are getting worse for ruining local areas…They are Labour near me and want to turn the City into a student immigrant import dump.
Eh? So the Amazon being cut down is leftist propaganda? The polar ice caps arn’t melting? It’s all just a ruse by Harriet Harman? Don’t be daft.
BTW, the tories are in control of migration policy - not Labour.
Don’t you ever get embarassed while chatting so much ■■■ all day every day?
Are you talking to me? Or do you still think you are talking to your mother?
JeffA:
Not sure “hundreds of years” - in 1950 the animal populations, the rainforests and the ice caps were nowhere near the disaster zones they are now - David attenborough says he’s seen the worst declines since he started tv in the 60s.
And the problem with us saying “Im not doing owt till Brazil and China do” is that they say you’ve caused all your damage and now you expect us to save you. We have to try and set some kind of example or we havnt a leg to stand on.
Bit I do think in 50 years our lids will be breathing thick smog - the capitalists want to ride their gravy train right into the ground rather than change.
Ok if not hundreds let’s say 120 to 150.
No curbs or limits,.but a free for all in pollution up to as you say 60s or 70s when the damage was already done.
So 50 to 60 years reducing those levels considerably, and in some cases to the absolute minimum.
So as I said ice caps ,.global warming etc,.damage already done,.so then came the revolutionary damage limitation and vast improvements in many industries .
I am NOT saying there is not a problem by any means, what I am saying is there is a lot of misguided info imo, and exaggeration, both used as a bloody good excuse to make some money out of it.
Instead of penalizing motorists, have a look at the pollution caused by China alone,.far more problems caused there 100+ fold, than me in me crappy Mondeo.
Fair enough - you’ve got a point that China/USA/India/Brazil are where the real damage is being done. I don’t think anythings going to change tbh - you can see people getting “tired” of climate change and they havn’t even done anything about it yet. Maybe when the ice caps have melted in the next 20-50 years and everyone on the coast has had to move to Birmingham there might be some clamour of “Why didn’t our parents do something”.
JeffA:
Not sure “hundreds of years” - in 1950 the animal populations, the rainforests and the ice caps were nowhere near the disaster zones they are now - David attenborough says he’s seen the worst declines since he started tv in the 60s.
And the problem with us saying “Im not doing owt till Brazil and China do” is that they say you’ve caused all your damage and now you expect us to save you. We have to try and set some kind of example or we havnt a leg to stand on.
Bit I do think in 50 years our lids will be breathing thick smog - the capitalists want to ride their gravy train right into the ground rather than change.
Ok if not hundreds let’s say 120 to 150.
No curbs or limits,.but a free for all in pollution up to as you say 60s or 70s when the damage was already done.
So 50 to 60 years reducing those levels considerably, and in some cases to the absolute minimum.
So as I said ice caps ,.global warming etc,.damage already done,.so then came the revolutionary damage limitation and vast improvements in many industries .
I am NOT saying there is not a problem by any means, what I am saying is there is a lot of misguided info imo, and exaggeration, both used as a bloody good excuse to make some money out of it.
Instead of penalizing motorists, have a look at the pollution caused by China alone,.far more problems caused there 100+ fold, than me in me crappy Mondeo.
Fair enough - you’ve got a point that China/USA/India/Brazil are where the real damage is being done. I don’t think anythings going to change tbh - you can see people getting “tired” of climate change and they havn’t even done anything about it yet. Maybe when the ice caps have melted in the next 20-50 years and everyone on the coast has had to move to Birmingham there might be some clamour of “Why didn’t our parents do something”.
You really think Obama and numerous others of the elite class would be buying multi $million waterfront mansions if they wre likely to vanish.
Its another scam just like the covid farce, they’ve got the gullible lapping up the fear, putty in their hands.
Amazing by the way how so many of the right on political class start off reasonably well off and make £$millions more whilst in office on middling salaries, whilst Trump who lost wealth during his tenure during which he refused to accept his salary is the bad 'un…i have a bridge for a sale going cheap.
JeffA:
Not sure “hundreds of years” - in 1950 the animal populations, the rainforests and the ice caps were nowhere near the disaster zones they are now - David attenborough says he’s seen the worst declines since he started tv in the 60s.
And the problem with us saying “Im not doing owt till Brazil and China do” is that they say you’ve caused all your damage and now you expect us to save you. We have to try and set some kind of example or we havnt a leg to stand on.
Bit I do think in 50 years our lids will be breathing thick smog - the capitalists want to ride their gravy train right into the ground rather than change.
Ok if not hundreds let’s say 120 to 150.
No curbs or limits,.but a free for all in pollution up to as you say 60s or 70s when the damage was already done.
So 50 to 60 years reducing those levels considerably, and in some cases to the absolute minimum.
So as I said ice caps ,.global warming etc,.damage already done,.so then came the revolutionary damage limitation and vast improvements in many industries .
I am NOT saying there is not a problem by any means, what I am saying is there is a lot of misguided info imo, exaggeration, both used as a bloody good excuse to make some money out of it.
Instead of penalizing motorists, have a look at the pollution caused by China alone,.far more problems caused there 100+ fold, than me in me crappy Mondeo.
Fair enough - you’ve got a point that China/USA/India/Brazil are where the real damage is being done. I don’t think anythings going to change tbh - you can see people getting “tired” of climate change and they havn’t even done anything about it yet. Maybe when the ice caps have melted in the next 20-50 years and everyone on the coast has had to move to Birmingham there might be some clamour of “Why didn’t our parents do something”.
Hang on, hang on…
Is that correct ■■
You’re saying we may all have to move to Birmingham??
Jeeez,.you’ve convinced me, the problem is a LOT bigger than I thought after all.
JeffA:
Not sure “hundreds of years” - in 1950 the animal populations, the rainforests and the ice caps were nowhere near the disaster zones they are now - David attenborough says he’s seen the worst declines since he started tv in the 60s.
And the problem with us saying “Im not doing owt till Brazil and China do” is that they say you’ve caused all your damage and now you expect us to save you. We have to try and set some kind of example or we havnt a leg to stand on.
Bit I do think in 50 years our lids will be breathing thick smog - the capitalists want to ride their gravy train right into the ground rather than change.
Ok if not hundreds let’s say 120 to 150.
No curbs or limits,.but a free for all in pollution up to as you say 60s or 70s when the damage was already done.
So 50 to 60 years reducing those levels considerably, and in some cases to the absolute minimum.
So as I said ice caps ,.global warming etc,.damage already done,.so then came the revolutionary damage limitation and vast improvements in many industries .
I am NOT saying there is not a problem by any means, what I am saying is there is a lot of misguided info imo, and exaggeration, both used as a bloody good excuse to make some money out of it.
Instead of penalizing motorists, have a look at the pollution caused by China alone,.far more problems caused there 100+ fold, than me in me crappy Mondeo.
Fair enough - you’ve got a point that China/USA/India/Brazil are where the real damage is being done. I don’t think anythings going to change tbh - you can see people getting “tired” of climate change and they havn’t even done anything about it yet. Maybe when the ice caps have melted in the next 20-50 years and everyone on the coast has had to move to Birmingham there might be some clamour of “Why didn’t our parents do something”.
You really think Obama and numerous others of the elite class would be buying multi $million waterfront mansions if they wre likely to vanish.
Its another scam just like the covid farce, they’ve got the gullible lapping up the fear, putty in their hands.
Amazing by the way how so many of the right on political class start off reasonably well off and make £$millions more whilst in office on middling salaries, whilst Trump who lost wealth during his tenure during which he refused to accept his salary is the bad 'un…i have a bridge for a sale going cheap.
If you have 2 billion what does it matter where you buy a mansion? You can buy it and when that sinks buy another.
No, it’s not a scam - look at the polar ice caps. Look at the amazon rainforest. You think they look in good health? That’s not propaganda - read some of the science rather than right-wing politicians trying to protect their rich pals in fossil fuels.
Trump lost wealth? Eh? Have you seen how much money he’s raking in from donations?
JeffA:
Not sure “hundreds of years” - in 1950 the animal populations, the rainforests and the ice caps were nowhere near the disaster zones they are now - David attenborough says he’s seen the worst declines since he started tv in the 60s.
And the problem with us saying “Im not doing owt till Brazil and China do” is that they say you’ve caused all your damage and now you expect us to save you. We have to try and set some kind of example or we havnt a leg to stand on.
Bit I do think in 50 years our lids will be breathing thick smog - the capitalists want to ride their gravy train right into the ground rather than change.
Ok if not hundreds let’s say 120 to 150.
No curbs or limits,.but a free for all in pollution up to as you say 60s or 70s when the damage was already done.
So 50 to 60 years reducing those levels considerably, and in some cases to the absolute minimum.
So as I said ice caps ,.global warming etc,.damage already done,.so then came the revolutionary damage limitation and vast improvements in many industries .
I am NOT saying there is not a problem by any means, what I am saying is there is a lot of misguided info imo, exaggeration, both used as a bloody good excuse to make some money out of it.
Instead of penalizing motorists, have a look at the pollution caused by China alone,.far more problems caused there 100+ fold, than me in me crappy Mondeo.
Fair enough - you’ve got a point that China/USA/India/Brazil are where the real damage is being done. I don’t think anythings going to change tbh - you can see people getting “tired” of climate change and they havn’t even done anything about it yet. Maybe when the ice caps have melted in the next 20-50 years and everyone on the coast has had to move to Birmingham there might be some clamour of “Why didn’t our parents do something”.
Hang on, hang on…
Is that correct ■■
You’re saying we may all have to move to Birmingham??
Jeeez,.you’ve convinced me, the problem is a LOT bigger than I thought after all.
I’ve already bought a little place…in downtown Aston