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The father was a Rwandan warlord who was wanted by the Rwandan authorities to face charges of murder/genocide, but he was given safe haven in Britain by a former Labour PM and defended by somebody else. I wonder who that could have been?

His family are Tutsi, who were the victims of genocide

Keeping on with the same playground chant then?
But, more to the point:

If so you would expect Maoster’s suggestion of a D Notice to be true then? But Starmer has announced a public enquiry will take place.

It has been established already that some very bad practise was going on. The Jay enquiry suggested many things that are now, under Starmer, starting to be done.

Who saw and stopped the bad Police tactics?
Where and when, was the bad practice seen and action taken to prosecute the ■■■■ gangs?
Police and the CPS had decided not to proceed in some cases. It was the new regional head of the NW CPS, appointed by Starmer then head of the CPS, who overturned the earlier decision, and successfully brought rapists to court.
The prosecution, held back earlier, was reviewed and prosecuted by a Starmer appointee. Pretty much the opposite of what you say.

Evidence?
Or just yet more made up crap?

I didn’t actually know that, saying that how predictable it is though so not surprised.

Franglais. Stop embarrassing yourself. You are simply just arguing for the sake of it now and its pathetic. :roll_eyes:

No comment on the subject of the thread then?
Just a weak comment about a poster.

it can thats why they have announced it now while the trial is going on he is in court on the 13th of feb i think it was. Maybe your right and thats why he has done it so the scum can get off.

Ill give 2 examples
tulip saddiq…https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6786877af0528401055d23d7/Letter_from_Independent_Adviser_on_Minsterial_Standards_to_the_Prime_Minister.pdf
from the gov site …

Ms Siddiq has assured me that she is wholly confident that she has disclosed in full all relevant information to me.

This process has involved in-depth discussions with a number of relevant individuals and the review of detailed information. A lack of records and lapse of time has meant that, unfortunately, I have not been able to obtain comprehensive comfort in relation to all the UK
property-related matters referred to in the media.

Given the passage of time since the original acquisitions and subsequent gifts, it has not been possible to retrieve documentation confirming that prevailing financial and tax regulations have been
followed. Ms Siddiq has provided considerable background information to confirm that the tax treatment and funding arrangements were in order, but - in light of the age of the transactions - has not at this point been able to provide conclusive documentation to this effect.

Given the intensity of the allegations concerning these transactions, it is regrettable (even if understandable in the context of their heritage) that this conclusive information is not available.

Ms Siddiq acknowledges that, over an extended period, she was unaware of the origins of her ownership of her flat in Kings Cross, despite having signed a Land Registry transfer form relating to the gift at the time. Ms Siddiq remained under the impression that her parents had
given the flat to her, having purchased it from the previous owner.

Ms Siddiq recognises that, as a result of this, the public were inadvertently misled about the identity of the donor of this gift in her replies to queries in 2022.

Ms Siddiq has explained the context of her visit to Moscow in 2013, including her attendance at the signing ceremony for the nuclear power plant. She has stated that the visit was solely for the social purpose of joining family and enjoying the tourist access to the city facilitated as a result of her aunt’s official visit as head of state. Ms Siddiq is clear that she had no involvement in any inter-governmental discussions between Bangladesh and Russia or any form of official role. I accept this at face value, but should note that this visit may form part of investigations in Bangladesh.

Given the nature of Ms Siddiq’s ministerial responsibilities, which include the promotion of the UK financial services sector and the inherent probity of its regulatory framework as a core component of the UK economy and its growth, it is regrettable that she was not more alert to the potential reputational risks - both to her and the Government - arising from her close family’s association with Bangladesh. I would not advise that this shortcoming should be taken as a breach of the Ministerial Code, but you will want to consider her ongoing responsibilities in the light of this.

so cant find any wrong doing huh. what a crock. the aunt was sanctioned 5 months ago so saddiq has had plenty of time to cover it up and loose any evidence. Even if she didnt why did it take her 5 months to come forward. As to her signing land registry documents and not knowing what they were i remember when i was about 7 being asked to sign forms to do with money my parents were putting aside for my sister and i. I asked what they were before i signed them. That was age 7 not an adult.

the report is full of holes and not worth the paper its written on.

dont tell me she resigned its clear to all she is as guilty as sin and should of been publicly sacked.

for the next example i coould mention starmer and all his back handers or reves lying on her cv or of course rayner and her council tax scam or any of the other many many scandals and cover ups but lets focus on the Alexis Jay report. took 5 years did they name anyone no. did they investigate the original briefing no. did they do much of anything that wasnt widely known by the general public and could be pointed out by a school boy no. did they find and identify ivor caplin no. police investigation for a few weeks and they arrest him, Its a bit like how the government apparently cant find where the illegals are leaving france after spending billions but the bbc can spend one night on a beach and see 100’s

Tutsi rebels anybody? Sound like a lovely carefree jolly boys club don’t they?

He has pleaded guilty. The Contempt of Court act, which is designed to stop prejudicing the outcome of trials, no longer applies.

Amazing innit.:joy:
If you can be arsed (I cant, it’s just that I remember) look back at the thread 12 18 months or so ago and see how the tide has turned.
An almost constant crticism of how bad and inept the govt and particular individuals were performing.

Turn the clock forward and in the same vain these clowns are providing even more material to continue that critique…and then some, you would think there would be hours of material.
But No, suddenly for some reason they can do no wrong.

A classic example of ‘Poacher turning Gamekeeper’
Or a even more classic example of Franglais’s servility of sticking to the socialist line at all costs.
‘The return of Comical Ali’ no less.:joy:
Yep another comment on the poster rather thsn the subject…just suck it up.

Nice try but my points and comments on the matter are above. Suggest you need to get your reading glasses out old boy.

On 6 April 1994, the deaths of the Presidents of Burundi and Rwanda in a plane crash caused by a rocket attack, ignited several weeks of intense and systematic massacres. The killings - more than one million people are estimated to have perished - shocked the international community and were clearly acts of genocide. An estimated 150,000 to 250,000 women were also raped. Members of the presidential guard started killing Tutsi civilians in a section of Kigali near the airport. Less than half an hour after the plane crash, roadblocks manned by Hutu militiamen often assisted by gendarmerie (paramilitary police) or military personnel were set up to identify Tutsis.

From UN site, A terrible event i remember as I used to work with someone once from Rwanda

Yep. I’ve mentioned further up that I think he’s a fraud and a hypocrite. He’s not doing anything to change that opinion.

What is in a name?
Being called “a rebel” by a tyrant would surely be badge of honour.
Should those called Ukrainians called “rebels” by the invaders, be refused asylum in the UK? Should “rebels” in Communist China be thought to be criminals by us?

Oh, and

Means what?
That the father of the killer was granted asylum by an ex-MP? How does that work? Since when has an MP, or an ex-MP had that power?

heres the full sentence of that quote…

so its interesting that you are happy with pedos and war lords coming to this country that are supported by starmer… kinda says it all

let me guess you were against rushdie coming here and getting asylum

Regardless of whether a rebel is on the “right” side or the “wrong” side I was establishing the nature of the father. He’s hardly likely to be a mild mannered librarian now is he?

But of course you knew that and were just being obtuse as per usual and disagreeing with pretty much anything that isn’t an anti Tory rant.

Is it beyond (your) comprehension that perhaps the nature of the father may just have a detrimental effect upon the nature of the child?

So once again the question remains as to why we are providing shelter to a wanted war criminal?

Why not?
Are all those called “rebels” by governments wearing jungle fatigues and waving AK47s?

So now the father is a “wanted war criminal”? Where is that from?
If true, I too would ask why the UK has a wanted war criminal here?
When was the trial? What were the charges? Who issued the extradition request?
Is this all from the same source as the “D Notice” you referred to earlier?

Maybe the father of the Southport killer is Rambo’s twin brother.
Maybe he is a bespectacled 8st librarian.

I suspect he is somewhere in the middle of the two, but would like to see some evidence to back up the assertions and accussations being made about him.

The apologist is in full form today…is it the result of withdrawl symptoms over the last few days?

Anyway back to the real world…
Think this kinda sums it up and says all there is to say about it …but still it goes on.

Read the comments btw, people are just sick of all this b/s that goes on, cover ups, smoke and mirrors, lies, and walking on egg shells rather than using accurate terminology.
A leaf should be taken out of one of Trumps many assorted books.

as i said a compleate waste of time enquiry.

is it into how this filth got into the country… is it how he got hold of the knowlage to make ricin and obtain an al quieda handbook? is it into how much the gov knew about this, any of those would be useful not that this shower of crap would do anything about it.

Nope they want o find out why other people didnt do something. blame everyone but themselves and blame boris most of all. Also lets ban the internet because thats where he got his violence from. maybe they want to ban the internet because they keep getting caught with their knickers down and they want to minimise the spread of their backroom dealings

i should change my id to nostradamus