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Wow !
Must be one big w3t dream vid for you that mate.:grin:

Johnson, Brexit AND covid all rolled into one eh?

Thing is though…

Brexit?
Everyone except you has moved on from it, and is dealing with the outcome and fallout …quietly.

Johnson ?
Nobody (again except you) actually cares anymore.

Covid ?
Everyone (YET again except you) realises and accepts that most of it was one big con.

And ‘loser’ ?
Loser or not, I would like to be a quid behind him…and I dont see him with pseudo bravado regularly posting cack from the security of his keyboard.
Look a bit closer to home mate if you are looking for a sad loser.:joy:

So that said… what’s your point exactly?

Just the usual bluster from him to be honest, although he did get Brexit through where May couldn’t.

He did get a version of Brexit through, it is true.

But was it the Brexit that the Leave campaign were campaigning for? Was it the Brexit that people voted for?

I accept that some ambitions might fall short when delivered, but I maintain that the future promised was never going to happen, and what was delivered was nothing at all like the promises made.
Did anyone at anytime say we would leave the customs union? Anyone? Anytime?
Loads were spouting various Norwegian and Swiss models but none talked about the exit we got, were they.

“Bluster”?
The bare faced lies, in spite of the truth being repeatedly told, continue without him being called out. So long as lies continue to be repeated, some will continue to believe in the liars.
A failure by the “journalists” as they give him a platform to hawk his wares.

Possibly he didn’t even fully understand what was happening at the time because he had Covid himself. He probably thinks it is true.

I’m not going to get into Brexit. No Brexit was ever going to satisfy ‘remainers’, but these arguments have been had already.

What he thought at the time is anyone’s guess. During the Covid inquiry it has been said that he had a very loose grasp of facts and events.
How much of that is due to his being ill then? Whatever the truth of that, he isn’t ill today.

His being ill then, is irrelevant to Ferrari not challenging him now. Surely the intervening years has given Johnson time to learn the facts?
Ferrari knew about June Rayne’s clear statement, and has used it in the past.
Check out the video 1min10m and 2min40.
The whole thing is only 4-30 anyway.

Johnson is repeating pure BS, and is going unchallenged…again!

You can’t really blame anyone if they lose the plot after leaving a job. He is 60 years old and who knows what his condition is. I certainly don’t. Maybe he wasn’t fit at the time of doing the job, but I guess he must have been seen by doctors who thought he was okay.

If that is all true, why is allowed to spread clear untruths far and wide on the media?

Do they give airtime to the bloke who shouts at the seagulls down the park? He too might believe everything he says, but that is no reason to give him publicity.

Journalists and the media do have responsibility for what they choose to publish.
They choose who gets to be heard.
It is not right that they allow obvious lies to go out. Or if obvious lies are told they should be countered.

Why show even well meaning lunatics?
And I do suggest that Johnson is one of them. He is not well meaning.

Edit.
I meant Johnson is not a well meaning lunatic.
That falls even flatter now. :frowning_face:

I can’t really comment as I’m a lorry driver not a lawyer well versed in what is allowed and what isn’t.

He does appear to be getting called out for his comments though.

Oh sweet Jesus, not all this sh again!..How many MORE times ffs? :scream:
NO… it was not the Brexit we voted for.
NO…it was not the Brexit the Leave Campaign wanted.
YES Johnson is/was a liar…he was an MP ffs, a leading one, but still an MP…what’s new?
There is only YOU who can not grasp that last point🙄
YES Johnson will continue to tell lies.
YES He will continue to line his already full pockets…it’s what these guys do

Ffs man leave it and move on from it .:roll_eyes:
There is a current mega cluster ■■■■ of events going on currentlly with this shower of sh who replaced the Tories…but still no criticism of it all from YOU the otherwise very vocal critic of crap government.
Kinda says it all really.

Do ya think that the guy who composed that article has been doing his research on Trucknet ? :thinking::joy:

:joy::joy:

Must admit rr, I had to look at the name at the bottom of the article, fully expecting to see your moniker, not you but a tidy blonde female :laughing:

How do ya know that aint me ?
All this could be a front.:joy:

Just make a prediction to save somebody a bit of time and trouble posting.
Something along the lines of…

‘‘Unreliable news source…A biased negative article from a Tory press on a Labour PM, who would have thought it’’.

Yep absolutely true, but nevertheless irrefutably accurate whatever your politics.

Makes me laugh how the focus keeps turning to BJ, his term of PM is history. How far back do we go? Blair with his lies?

We are here now. I’m focusing on the current shower of 54It.

Johnson is appearing on our TV etc at the moment. He is doing the rounds flogging his book.

He has however refused to be interviewed by Beth Rigby, rather less of a pet poodle than Ferrari, because she wished to record the interview.

So if he is peddling lies now, I see no reason why he should not be called out now.

Yep, and he is seeking to rewrite it. He is seeking to replace history with a fantasy.

Or more accurately he refused to allow recording and so Rigby pulled out.

But as I keep saying who tf cares apart from you ?

Everybody knows and fully accepts he tells lies, but he aint as good at pulling them off as the likes of Blair, who I’m sure is also guilty of doing the rounds hawking a book out for anybody daft enough to buy it…#allthesame.

The above may not be true, I do not know, maybe Blair has not wrote a book, but you see I can not stand the bloke as much as you can not stand Johnson, but difference is I just ignore everything about him because of that,… as opposed to you being an authority on everything Boris Johnson and hanging on his every word…
Somehow that does not figure with me to be normal behaviour tbh, and I find it quite bizzare.

You should put BJ’s book on your Christmas list, it will be right up your strasse, and give you endless milage to post more boring cack about him on here.
You can have that suggestion on me for free…you’re welcome.:sunglasses:

And there is an easy solution to his views / opinions, don’t watch or read.

I’m sure many will be thinking, Beth Rigby, who the #uck is Beth Rigby?

Note my first sentence.

Note first sentence and my last sentence.

And so Blair continues to rear his weasel face on tv, I guess his missinformation / lies didn’t have any effects on innocent souls?

Of course one can ignore them, or one can comment on them.
I choose the latter.

Fine. Not everyone knows who she is.
Johnson does and is clearly not happy to be interviewed (again) by her.

And when he does appear, his history is brought up. Quite rightly so.
Those who want to ignore him, do so. Those who want to criticise him do so.

Yes, his history is addressed in moderation but I’m not convinced that Blair understands the meaning of contrition. Blair’s record is not exactly squeaky clean. That is history.

Meanwhile a constant obsession with BJ’s wrong doings will get you where exactly? That too is mainly history.

I’m more concerned of the now, and can’t wait for more sleaze to hit the press regarding Starmer.