lancpudn:
There’s been a tsunami of lobbying at Brussels over the proposals for the upcoming new emission standards the likes of which have never been seen before it’s been reported.
The EU lawmakers have decided to back the ban on ICE from 2035 in Europe (UK 2030) The lobbyist have been wanting a 90% reduction in emissions instead of the 100% which would have left the door open for bio-fuels etc to be used in combustion engines but that door has been closed on them & rejected too, The voting/lobbying continues. Looking like EV’s or nowt up to now. 
Attached to that law will require Paris accord countries to install millions of vehicle chargers.
Looks like it’s going to be the 500 hp 3.5t Transit EV conversion instead of the 5.0 Litre V8 Range Rover for my retirement present to myself.I can live with it probably with the bonus of keeping a manual box in the van.
Game over for the combustion engine with the deal being reached this morning by EU governments. transportenvironment.org/di … ting-cars/
lancpudn:
Game over for the combustion engine with the deal being reached this morning by EU governments. transportenvironment.org/di … ting-cars/
ICE’s aren’t dependent on fossil fuel use.Even if Europe is stupid enough to trade the unaffordable far greater evil of nuclear to replace the affordable far lesser evil of fossil fuel when push comes to shove.
cleanenergywire.org/news/ger … e-minister
Carryfast:
http://www.teslarati.com/eu-ban-on-combustion-engines-faces-challenge-from-6-countries/
That was on the 22nd June, It was upheld on Wednesday morning the 29th June.
“Countries eventually backed a compromise proposed by Germany, the EU’s biggest car market, which kept the 2035 target and asked Brussels to assess in 2026 whether hybrid vehicles or CO2-neutral fuels could comply with the goal.”
euractiv.com/section/transp … s-by-2035/
The new car market will shrink and could collapse altogether if electric cars don’t get cheaper by 2030 for mass adoption. 
lancpudn:
Carryfast:
http://www.teslarati.com/eu-ban-on-combustion-engines-faces-challenge-from-6-countries/
That was on the 22nd June, It was upheld on Wednesday morning the 29th June.
“Countries eventually backed a compromise proposed by Germany, the EU’s biggest car market, which kept the 2035 target and asked Brussels to assess in 2026 whether hybrid vehicles or CO2-neutral fuels could comply with the goal.”
euractiv.com/section/transp … s-by-2035/
The new car market will shrink and could collapse altogether if electric cars don’t get cheaper by 2030 for mass adoption.
The second article is dated 27th June.
There is no demand for EVs now or in 2030.
Petrol is by far the greatest demand product. Government imposed rationing of new car sales is what’s collapsing the market.
At best your whole case is based on the (non) safety of nuclear flogged at an unaffordable price without road fuel taxation applied let alone with it.
While look at the news people are complaining about the cost of petrol they aren’t rushing to scrap their cars and trade for an EV.
Carryfast:
lancpudn:
Carryfast:
http://www.teslarati.com/eu-ban-on-combustion-engines-faces-challenge-from-6-countries/
That was on the 22nd June, It was upheld on Wednesday morning the 29th June.
“Countries eventually backed a compromise proposed by Germany, the EU’s biggest car market, which kept the 2035 target and asked Brussels to assess in 2026 whether hybrid vehicles or CO2-neutral fuels could comply with the goal.”
euractiv.com/section/transp … s-by-2035/
The new car market will shrink and could collapse altogether if electric cars don’t get cheaper by 2030 for mass adoption.
The second article is dated 27th June.
There is no demand for EVs now or in 2030.
Petrol is by far the greatest demand product. Government imposed rationing of new car sales is what’s collapsing the market.
At best your whole case is based on the (non) safety of nuclear flogged at an unaffordable price without road fuel taxation applied let alone with it.
While look at the news people are complaining about the cost of petrol they aren’t rushing to scrap their cars and trade for an EV.
Presently most BEV manufacturers are experiencing lead times of 6-9 months because of the sheer demand for them with some stopping taking orders altogether to bring down wait times. MG for example have people still waiting for their EV’s since ordering them in Oct/Nov 2021 airqualitynews.com/2022/06/20/e … h-by-2030/
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lancpudn:
Carryfast:
lancpudn:
Carryfast:
The EU's 2035 petrol ban receives pushback from five countries
That was on the 22nd June, It was upheld on Wednesday morning the 29th June.
“Countries eventually backed a compromise proposed by Germany, the EU’s biggest car market, which kept the 2035 target and asked Brussels to assess in 2026 whether hybrid vehicles or CO2-neutral fuels could comply with the goal.”
euractiv.com/section/transp … s-by-2035/
The new car market will shrink and could collapse altogether if electric cars don’t get cheaper by 2030 for mass adoption.
The second article is dated 27th June.
There is no demand for EVs now or in 2030.
Petrol is by far the greatest demand product. Government imposed rationing of new car sales is what’s collapsing the market.
At best your whole case is based on the (non) safety of nuclear flogged at an unaffordable price without road fuel taxation applied let alone with it.
While look at the news people are complaining about the cost of petrol they aren’t rushing to scrap their cars and trade for an EV.
Presently most BEV manufacturers are experiencing lead times of 6-9 months because of the sheer demand for them with some stopping taking orders altogether to bring down wait times. MG for example have people still waiting for their EV’s since ordering them in Oct/Nov 2021 airqualitynews.com/2022/06/20/e … h-by-2030/
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As opposed to the reality.SMMT figures for year 2022 56,000 petrol 17,000 BEV.
It’s clear what people want and no one is buying the tax break subsidy lies which the government has openly stated will end.
Which effectively means the equivalent of £12 per gallon to run an EV.
The majority of the EV market share is company cars, so if you are lucky enough to have a well paid job with a company car thrown in it’s win win as you save more of your generous income from company car tax allowance. Not really about ‘saving the Planet’ is it 
bigstraight6:
Not really about ‘saving the Planet’ is it
Only the most brainwashed of the useful idiots could believe that nuclear power and covering fields in solar panels and burning living trees as biomass instead of dead ones as fossil fuel, so that Bozo can export all of our oil and gas, is ‘green’.
Also hidden in the small print of this scam is the all too predictable retrospectively applied ban on the sale and use of the existing used fleet of ICE powered vehicles.
Because they know that no one wants the control freaks EV’s.
Also bearing in mind that it’s effectively a ban on ICE powered vehicles by stealth dressed up as cutting dependence on fossil fuel when they know that IC isn’t dependent on fossil fuel use.
PHEV’s are going to get a tougher time in 2025 when the Euro 7 standard kicks in. transportenvironment.org/di … emissions/
Get a load of the price of Chinese manufacturer Hawtai EV’s on Alibaba. alibaba.com/product-detail/ … 31271.html
alibaba.com/product-detail/ … 77198.html
youtube.com/watch?v=VX2P5Bl0adU
lancpudn:
PHEV’s are going to get a tougher time in 2025 when the Euro 7 standard kicks in. transportenvironment.org/di … emissions/
Get a load of the price of Chinese manufacturer Hawtai EV’s on Alibaba. alibaba.com/product-detail/ … 31271.html
alibaba.com/product-detail/ … 77198.html
youtube.com/watch?v=VX2P5Bl0adU
Translates as let’s contribute to despotic China’s military budget.
Yesterday the 6th July 2022 was the date that makes anti-speeding technology and a so-called black box mandatory for all new cars by EU regulators. The controversial features are a requirement in every car introduced after July 6, 2022. todaynewspost.com/auto-news/…box-mandatory/
What price an expensive extremely fast Tesla model S plaid in the years to come if it has to adhere to national speed limits!
lancpudn:
Yesterday the 6th July 2022 was the date that makes anti-speeding technology and a so-called black box mandatory for all new cars by EU regulators. The controversial features are a requirement in every car introduced after July 6, 2022. todaynewspost.com/auto-news/…box-mandatory/
What price an expensive extremely fast Tesla model S plaid in the years to come if it has to adhere to national speed limits!
The EU-wide car speed limiters are nothing like the “hard” limiters we have on lorries which cut power off altogether at the preset limit. They warn the driver if he exceeds the posted limit by audible, visual and haptic feedback. In addition they apply a “soft” limit at something a little above the NSL which stops the car going faster unless the driver deliberately presses the accelerator quite a bit harder (a little bit like kick-down on an autobox).
The lead-footed brigade will have no trouble at all going just as fast as they wish.
Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Roymondo:
lancpudn:
Yesterday the 6th July 2022 was the date that makes anti-speeding technology and a so-called black box mandatory for all new cars by EU regulators. The controversial features are a requirement in every car introduced after July 6, 2022. todaynewspost.com/auto-news/…box-mandatory/
What price an expensive extremely fast Tesla model S plaid in the years to come if it has to adhere to national speed limits!
The EU-wide car speed limiters are nothing like the “hard” limiters we have on lorries which cut power off altogether at the preset limit. They warn the driver if he exceeds the posted limit by audible, visual and haptic feedback. In addition they apply a “soft” limit at something a little above the NSL which stops the car going faster unless the driver deliberately presses the accelerator quite a bit harder (a little bit like kick-down on an autobox).
The lead-footed brigade will have no trouble at all going just as fast as they wish.
Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
It was this bit that caught my eye. “Regulators stress that, for the time being, the driver can override the ISA (even the type that slows down the car) by simply pushing down the accelerator pedal.”
A consultation period has just opened to end the sale of two wheeled fossil fuel motorbikes It’s a good job they’re ridding the UK’s public roads of those gas guzzling polluting modes of transport. /s airqualitynews.com/2022/07/15/c … s-by-2035/
lancpudn:
A consultation period has just opened to end the sale of two wheeled fossil fuel motorbikes It’s a good job they’re ridding the UK’s public roads of those gas guzzling polluting modes of transport. /s airqualitynews.com/2022/07/15/c … s-by-2035/
A consultation with the foregone conclusion that we mustn’t guzzle our own oil so that it can be exported instead.
Carryfast:
lancpudn:
A consultation period has just opened to end the sale of two wheeled fossil fuel motorbikes It’s a good job they’re ridding the UK’s public roads of those gas guzzling polluting modes of transport. /s airqualitynews.com/2022/07/15/c … s-by-2035/
A consultation with the foregone conclusion that we mustn’t guzzle our own oil so that it can be exported instead.
Can you imagine the hullabaloo if there’s a new record temperature tomorrow in blighty, They’ll be calling for the ban to be brought forward another five years