Peter Slater Ltd.+ Other Coalmen from the 50s/60s onwards

The fuel division of BFL bought out Sadler Tankers late 90s and within a few months CPL(Chesterfield) took over and then in 2000 they became involved with Stiller Transport and then it all went t-ts up.Sadlers were no more after over 100Yrs of trading.

IIRC Coalite Group owned Scotts of Nottingham,and Penrith who were Atkinson Distributors I think they also owned Longfield Road Motors of Darlington,but I’m not absolutely sure about Longfields.Cheers Bewick.

I think that the Seddon agents and coachbuilders , Longfield Road Motors , were (originally ? ) owned by Alan Metcalfe from Darlington.
That would be until the mid 1970s , when Alan died. I dont know who took over the business after that.

Slightly off-topic ,…but nevertheless , worth including.

Cheers , cattle wagon man.

Bewick:
IIRC Coalite Group owned Scotts of Nottingham,and Penrith who were Atkinson Distributors I think they also owned Longfield Road Motors of Darlington,but I’m not absolutely sure about Longfields.Cheers Bewick.

Scotts were owned by the National Carbonizing Co Ltd (Rexco) who also owned John Clarke (Haulage) Ltd Ollerton and its associate companies who were large users of Atkinson vehicles, not sure about Longfield. Scotts had depots at Nottingham, Earl Shilton (they took over Prices of Earl Shilton), Stockton and Penrith.

coca cola kid:
One of the places I worked early 70s going a long time before I started & still going strong today a family run business Picture taken today 8/7/2014

Did you ever do the Frickley Colliery to British Tissues, Oughtibridge, Sheffield, and the Morehall Tip with Ash to one of the Breeze Block makers?

If you did then you were working for us British Fuel Company (Sheffield) Ltd, via our sub contractor G.D. Wragg (Bromley Carr Farm) Sheffield.

Also on that job, was a Weighman who stole [censored] tonnes of coal and wouldn’t let anyone in for loading after 3pm.

And a shift walkout over a Pit Deputies insult. As the Miner goes to get in the cage they hand over a dog tag, and call the deputy an insult, C word (usually). So this shift C word, c word, c word, etc till last one MF. Pit Deputy “Yep it was your Mother I F***ed”

Walkout. Until that Deputy apologised no mining at Frickley, unbelievable 200 Tonnes a day in to British Tissues.

Cameback and bit them, Tissues, was approached about imported coal. Also everyone else that had Frickley and Allerton Bywater smalls. No tears for Lazy B@$t@rds, if you have a good job you nurse it, and don’t feel sorry for people earning more than you ■■■■■■■ theirs away.

sammyopisite:

madsteve7:

Stanfield:
Cawoods another coal haulier from the 50s/60s…I think they are now part of the Hargreaves group (anyone know)photo by flatman0010


Cawoods, bought Peter Slaters. Then in the 1970’s Redlands PLC, the Irish builder bought Cawoods.

Lots of opencast was being hit and rather than having to bring in a Coal Factor to sell it they bought Cawoods so they could do it themselves.

In 1989, they bought the British Fuel Company off AAH Group PLC(Amalgamated Anthracite Holdings) and British Coal.

They then rebranded the entire merged company, British Fuels Limited. With a Coal Division, an Oil Division, Stevedores, and Cawoods of Northern Ireland.

The company BFL was then floated off 2 years later in a management buyout. With a guarantee that British Coal could buy us within 2 years or pay a £55 Million in compensation.

We were set become a privatised British Coals, retail arm.

But the power privatisation F***ed all that up when Nation Power and Powergen started using imported coal. (Something we could supply, only they cut us out completely, buying direct from Antwerp docks). Turnover dropped as more went onto import, and we got the push in 1992.

The company did merge with a part of British Coal, the National Fuel Distributors, which by then was known as CPL, in 1995 in bankruptcy sale.

Hargreaves was the Bulk Coal Division of Coalite PLC, with Charringtons as their Oil Division. Both were spun off after Coalite went bump, along with their Builders Merchants business.

Coalite owned most of the Falkland Islands at one point.

Steve were Northern Strip Mining part of the group? or am getting that mixed up with something else

cheers Johnnie

Northern Strip Mining, were the Opencast Coal Mining Division of Burnett & Hallamshire Fuels Supplies.

They were the biggest Coal Merchants in Sheffield, South Yorkshire, North Derbyshire and North Nottinghamshire. Formed in 1953 with the merger of Burnett Brothers Coal Merchants and Hallamshire Fuel Supplies.

As a result of the merger a new centralized Coal Handling Plant was constructed, at Nunnery Sidings, Bernard Road, Sheffield, and opened in 1957.

Opencasting was inspired by one of the brothers Canadian holiday, and seeing it take place in that country. My Dad says their first project was the opencasting of the Wentworth Woodhouse estate, Rotherham, on the edge of the Dearne Valley.

They used the steady profits from coal to go into other areas such as buying a Chemical Plant in Clitheroe Greater Manchester, that produced the cleaning product Langene and the disinfectant Landry (? Not sure of the spelling) the plant was run by Cmdr Ken Brammer (?or his).

With coal being used to produce electricity, in industry, for domestic heating and for producing gas at the gas works, they were all making good money at the time.

Then things changed, with the introduction of the clean air act, Sheffield City Council dashed to be one of the first, the company looked to get rid of the Sheffield based Coal Distribution business, in the late 60’s.

The Sheffield Business was sold to British Fuel Company (A Limited company with the Shareholding split between AAH Group PLC (Amalgamated Anthracite Holdings) (50.25%) and the NCB (49.75%) ) in 1970, paying £500,000 (£11.3 Million today’s money).

The company had to trade as B&H for 2 years after the sale.

Burnett’s kept a hold of NSM until the temptation became too great and floated the company off as Northern Strip Mining PLC laterly NSM PLC. There was board coup and Nigel Swithern, who was an illegitimate child of one of the Burnett’s, was replaced as General Manager. They were doing really well until they went into the USA in the 1980’s.

Dad says they paid a lot of money out for land, and bought what was essentially a swamp, :blush: that was the start of the company’s downfall.

There’s some big things about on the web, one saying it was the ENRON of it’s day.

The newsreader Sir Alistair Burnett was a member of the family.

Stanfield:
The fuel division of BFL bought out Sadler Tankers late 90s and within a few months CPL(Chesterfield) took over and then in 2000 they became involved with Stiller Transport and then it all went t-ts up.Sadlers were no more after over 100Yrs of trading.

Weren’t Sadler part of TDG group? Or was it one of those ex ICI companies?


Aren’t all the Heating Oil / Fuel Oils firms all the same company now? Did a search not long ago for Red Diesel, and everyones was contacting my e-mail account, CPL, Crown, Carlton, Cooke, Peak, Apollo, Bayford, Prestige, McColl’s, Chappell, Tate, EMO (That must be a depressing company), etc, etc,

All marked SPAM now. Last time I do a favour online.


I was going to do Tanker driving, as a back up, got my CPC and Hazchem / Hazpak, just awaiting my 21st to do my HGV driving. Got caught doing 43mph on A6109, Brightside Lane, Sheffield. Really surprised always thought it was a 40 zone. “Oh No” said the officer “Definitely 30”.

Fodenfan:

Bewick:
IIRC Coalite Group owned Scotts of Nottingham,and Penrith who were Atkinson Distributors I think they also owned Longfield Road Motors of Darlington,but I’m not absolutely sure about Longfields.Cheers Bewick.

Scotts were owned by the National Carbonizing Co Ltd (Rexco) who also owned John Clarke (Haulage) Ltd Ollerton and its associate companies who were large users of Atkinson vehicles, not sure about Longfield. Scotts had depots at Nottingham, Earl Shilton (they took over Prices of Earl Shilton), Stockton and Penrith.

National Carbonizing Co Ltd (Rexco) was bought by Burnett & Hallamshire Group in 1981. They had 3 English plants Mansfield (closed 1972), Snibston near Coalville, and Ollerton. Also a Scottish one at Comrie near Dunfermline, Fife.

In 1987, Burnett’s sold the company to Coalite who started transferring work to Bolsover and Grimethorpe.

The Ollerton works was closed in 1989, and in 1990, we (British fuel Company (Sheffield) Ltd ) took part in the clean up, based at an old Tuxford RAF Camp nearby, A lot went our Boughton Coal (Sealed) Bagging Plant. We got a lot of stuff out of it, with all the screening and distribution.

The problem with Rexco as a fuel, is that it would spit, so far an open fire you would need a fine mesh fireguard.

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link to it’s production method

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karrick_process

Weren’t Sadler part of TDG group? Or was it one of those ex ICI companies?
Hi madsteve7
No Sadlers were never part of the TDG group they were privately owned until the Kuwait Investment Office bought them and then late 80s there was a management buyout of the company from the KIO and then again in the late 90s it was sold it off to BFL who like i said earlier then sold out to CPL.The fuel side of Sadlers used to get their petrol for their own sites from ICI(I believe) and the chemical side used to contract quite a few tankers to ICI/Terra/Ineous.

Reading your posts madsteve reminds me of a piece in one of the classic magazines a while ago ,was that you ?

thelongdrag:
I’m sure if my memory is correct this Austin belonged to
Francis N Lowe who had a coal business in Middle Peak Wharf
Middleton Derby’s., and still trade at New Rd., Middleton as a Marble specialist.
Lorry on contract to Stephenson Clarke Ltd.,who were the largest coal supplier in the U.K.at one time.
In 1968 name changed to Stephenson Clarke Shipping Ltd., and have just recently gone into liquidation ?
Traded since 1730, nearly 300 years and gone on our watch. :frowning: Mike.


Stephenson Clarke were apart of the holding company that owned UK Oils / UK Petroleum. Their Tankers and Petrol Stations used to be everywhere

Think it was called Williams.

Dan Punchard:
Reading your posts madsteve reminds me of a piece in one of the classic magazines a while ago ,was that you ?

Yeah I had a letter printed in Heritage Commercials. Issue 272.

That reminds me I let my Uncle borrow it and never got it back.

I’ll have to order a copy.

Stanfield:
Weren’t Sadler part of TDG group? Or was it one of those ex ICI companies?
Hi madsteve7
No Sadlers were never part of the TDG group they were privately owned until the Kuwait Investment Office bought them and then late 80s there was a management buyout of the company from the KIO and then again in the late 90s it was sold it off to BFL who like i said earlier then sold out to CPL.The fuel side of Sadlers used to get their petrol for their own sites from ICI(I believe) and the chemical side used to contract quite a few tankers to ICI/Terra/Ineous.


Kuwaiti Investment Office.

I used to use there Q8 petrol stations all the time. Especially after the Iraqi invasion.


Out of interest. Did anyone do any coal blowering work?

Anyone from R.C Snow’s (Mexborough) Last I saw they and Hargreaves were doing a joint depot at Templeborough, Rotherham.

Cammack (Chesterfield)

Rushcliffe (Ollerton)

Fernwoods (Watnall)

Crowthers

Or any of the others that did schools and Hospitals?

Robertsons used to come to my school ,light green I think ? Edit that it’s Robertshaws

I can remember the NCB Leyland Bison bulk blowers

Another one from the Slater group (stilltime photos)

hi stanfield
slaters parked up! that must be a first,they invented meals on wheels.
great photo.
regards
sm1

Photos belong to Les(wakey)Wilson flickr.com/photos/63211677@ … 318840093/

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Leyland Octopus loaded with coal before they fitted it with greedy boards

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Then they thought we can get more coal on here and fitted the boards


Wm Shaws from Huddersfield
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Horace Kendricks FODEN YDH261F leaving the depot


Peter Slaters AEC OWX499

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