PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[deanb]

windrush:
DeanB wrote: Stroll on Pete ! Those drivers obviously took there morning checks very seriously…

Never bothered with such things back then Dean, kick the tyres when you parked up the day before and that was about it! No use checking things in the morning, not much you could do at 5am to repair something but you could at the end of the previous days work. Vernon was always keen to get away in the mornings, he parked in Ashbourne and as soon as the Gardner 180 fired up on at least three cylinders he was into gear and away down the road in a cloud of smoke. I remember a local lad driving for Seafield and he parked in Ashbourne at their yard, he said that he had to spend fifteen minutes looking around the truck before setting off and I told him that Vernon and the other Tilcon drivers would have been in Derby by then!

Pete.

I know what you mean about morning checks Pete as most drivers are always checking things when loading and delivering
loads.You automatically seem to wander around the truck kicking tyres.

However missing 3 broken springs or a chassis thats snapped is a bit of a worry chap ! Maybe Tilcon should have
offered some of the drivers free spec savers appointments !

neversweat1:
Hi Dean - ACH stood for Aston Clinton Haulage - Bought out by Norbert Dentressangle.

Steve

Thats the name Steve,pretty sure i have an article about them somewhere.

Clipping from 1983.

Mrsteel:
Dean B,
Good morning, Re: the Multiserv M.A.N. In November 95 I started with Faber Prest Steel Distribution the head office being in Strawberry Lane Willenhall and was the depot of R & M Shorthouse which eventually became Faber Prest Steel Distribution. Roy Shorthouse,son Ian was a director.
F.P.S.D became Multiserv and when I retired in 2011 was Harsco Distribution.
The trailer behind the M.A.N looks like an ex Lloyd’s of Ludlow one of several bought when Lloyd’s scaled back operations and iirc ran just two.
Regards, Allan

Thanks for your comments Allan. Will put some Welsh steel suff on tomorrow or the next day.

Heres a Faber Steel DAF.

Kempston:
I believe Erith were builders merchants Dean, not heard of them for ages now.

Thanks for the comment “Kempston”

Kempston:
"Ray Smyth"Hi Chaps, I occasionally see an abbreviation on some of the threads that I look at,
and whilst I am neither a Thicko or a Brain Of Britain, I do not know what iirc means.
I hope one of you chaps will let me know. Cheers, Ray.

Get with the program grandad it means, if I remember correctly, innit.

Funny enough Ray i never knew what it meant either,thanks Kempston.

blue estate:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the Volvo roll on roll off ?

Think its a Cleanaway Scania ?

Volvo roll on off is onyx now veoila waste
The Scania roll on off is Viridor

New pastures

Thanks for confirming the names “blue estate”

smallcoal:
iveco are celebrating 25 years of the seddon Atkinson by displaying the a badge on the trucks,also has anyone heard of this company there’s an obituary to the owner

Certainly a mixed fleet John,cant make out the name chap ■■

No comments on Gibbs,or odds and sods or Scania 110 8 wheelers ■■

[chris_webb]

No comments on Gibbs,or odds and sods or Scania 110 8 wheelers ■■

Hi Dean,I remember Gibbs well and they are operating again after closing down. Their wagons used to follow the trawler fleets from Scotland down to Lowestoft apparantly (by road of course ) and I think some Scottish fish processing people went down as well.Oily will know more than me about them.

[mrsteel]

Hi Dean
Thanks for the photo of the F.P.S.D. DAF. It was a sister to one I drove , W994 JOG ,
Going back to the MAN it was one of a number on hire from Gullivers Cardiff .
Thanks again, Allan

[oiltreader]

Chris Webb:
No comments on Gibbs,or odds and sods or Scania 110 8 wheelers ■■

Hi Dean,I remember Gibbs well and they are operating again after closing down. Their wagons used to follow the trawler fleets from Scotland down to Lowestoft apparantly (by road of course ) and I think some Scottish fish processing people went down as well.Oily will know more than me about them.

“Oily will know more than me about them. ”
not so much the wagons Chris but very much a migration of gutters who were a extremely hardy breed of women who followed the herring boat landings from the Buchan area all the way down the east coast, Hull, Grimsby and Gt Yarmouth being main fishing ports way back, they even transplanted some of their local lingo in these places.
herripedia.com/herring-lasses/
Oily
Hi Dean, some from early and later and with no doubt loyalty to Gray and Adams for the fridge boxes.

[maggied]

Hi Dean,
Happy Easter to you.

Mitchell Hire were from Portsmouth they ran a large fleet of cars, van,and trucks. Harry Mitchell started it, he used to live next door to us, he was a keen Yachtsman and entered the Around the World solo yacht race on 3 occasions, he was 70 years old when he left on his third race in 1995,unfortunately he never returned and was lost at sea. He was a larger than life character who died doing what he loved.

Regards
Richard

[windrush]

DeanB wrote: I know what you mean about morning checks Pete as most drivers are always checking things when loading and delivering
loads.You automatically seem to wander around the truck kicking tyres.
However missing 3 broken springs or a chassis thats snapped is a bit of a worry chap ! Maybe Tilcon should have
offered some of the drivers free spec savers appointments !

Haha, we rarely looked at springs unless we heard one break Dean! The lad who had the chassis break started on one of the half cab Fodens and when he came in for service one day he mentioned that the steering had been heavy ''for a week or so", when the engine cover was lifted the fitter noticed that the power steering reservoir (bolted to the rear of the compressor) had dropped off of the pump and was wedged on the engine. Surprised that the driver hadn’t noticed he asked him driver when he had last checked the oil: “well it still had oil pressure so I assumed it was OK” he said! He arrived at the quarry one day for a load, the manager followed him in and called him over to tell him that before he loaded he had better go and retrieve his taildoor which was in the middle of the road the other side of Ashbourne! He was a grand chap though, and had a sad end as he suffered badly with his breathing for many years.

Pete.

[nilocekyd]

Anyone recognise the Foden ■■ Thought it may have been Hoveringham at first but looking at it again i dont think it is ■■

The Foden is RH Roadstone, an amalgamation between Redland and Hoveringham. colours were split between the green of Redland and Orange of Hoveringham.

one seen earlier.

regards
Colin

[buzzer]

Where you been hiding Colin trust you are well during these times, cheers Buzzer

[nilocekyd]

Buzzer:
Where you been hiding Colin trust you are well during these times, cheers Buzzer

All good thank you John and congratulations to you and the team on the 50th Birthday. I follow on the Facebook page and good to see all still going well for you.

I do pop in to Trucknet now and again to keep up with things but I’m normally too late to comment as you have beat me to it!
This past year has been increasingly difficult due to work commitments amongst “other things”!.
Be good now that everyone can get back out and about.
Aside from that I hope you and the family remain well and that your menagerie is keeping you occupied.

best wishes
Colin.

[nilocekyd]

looking back through the recent uploads i noticed a couple of Ex-Clapcott units making an appearance. Both were in service during the 80’s although YAA has been recabbed.

regards
Colin

[kempston]

oiltreader:

Chris Webb:
No comments on Gibbs,or odds and sods or Scania 110 8 wheelers ■■

Hi Dean,I remember Gibbs well and they are operating again after closing down. Their wagons used to follow the trawler fleets from Scotland down to Lowestoft apparantly (by road of course ) and I think some Scottish fish processing people went down as well.Oily will know more than me about them.

“Oily will know more than me about them. ”
not so much the wagons Chris but very much a migration of gutters who were a extremely hardy breed of women who followed the herring boat landings from the Buchan area all the way down the east coast, Hull, Grimsby and Gt Yarmouth being main fishing ports way back, they even transplanted some of their local lingo in these places.
herripedia.com/herring-lasses/
Oily
Hi Dean, some from early and later and with no doubt loyalty to Gray and Adams for the fridge boxes.

Great photos oiltreader, always immaculately kept.

[ramone]

neversweat1:
Hi Dean - This Is Claude Fenton Plant Hire From Reading Berkshire - Depots in Southampton and Swindon

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I remember Henry Longs getting their first 1418s my dad just missed out with his Atki 180 Gardner

[finbarot]

One particular driver had difficulty with Gardner oil consumption.He was on a Foden that needed about half to three quarters of a gallon per day. He then swapped onto another wagon and continued throwing the same amount in daily.This 180 had recently been rebuilt.After a fortnight the Foden came into the workshop for being gutless and having low oil pressure .The oil was nearly flowing out of the rocker covers there was so much in her.He never ever dipped her, just put oil in daily!!
And Im sure Windrush has seen one where the overly keen apprentice has pumped so much grease into the clutch operating shaft, when only one pump was required, that he has filled the bell housing up with grease before he has realised there is a small problem!!
Of course, I was far far too clever to be caught out by such an amateur mistake

[deanb]

Chris Webb:
No comments on Gibbs,or odds and sods or Scania 110 8 wheelers ■■

Hi Dean,I remember Gibbs well and they are operating again after closing down. Their wagons used to follow the trawler fleets from Scotland down to Lowestoft apparantly (by road of course ) and I think some Scottish fish processing people went down as well.Oily will know more than me about them.

Yes its nice to see the company has made a come back as they were always such a well turned out fleet.

Posted a LDD on a Gibbs Atkinson on page 421 which was one of the first LDD featured in Truck magazine.

oiltreader:
“Chris Webb”

“Oily will know more than me about them. ”
not so much the wagons Chris but very much a migration of gutters who were a extremely hardy breed of women who followed the herring boat landings from the Buchan area all the way down the east coast, Hull, Grimsby and Gt Yarmouth being main fishing ports way back, they even transplanted some of their local lingo in these places.
herripedia.com/herring-lasses/
Oily
Hi Dean, some from early and later and with no doubt loyalty to Gray and Adams for the fridge boxes.

Great pics and info Oily. Gray and Adam’s fridges were very strong and alot of meat hauliers used them for hanging
meat but they were heavy.

MaggieD:
Hi Dean,
Happy Easter to you.

Mitchell Hire were from Portsmouth they ran a large fleet of cars, van,and trucks. Harry Mitchell started it, he used to live next door to us, he was a keen Yachtsman and entered the Around the World solo yacht race on 3 occasions, he was 70 years old when he left on his third race in 1995,unfortunately he never returned and was lost at sea. He was a larger than life character who died doing what he loved.

Regards
Richard

Afternoon Richard and Happy Easter to you mucker.

Thanks for the info on the Mercedes,sounds like Harry was a bit of a character ,shame he died.

windrush:
DeanB wrote: I know what you mean about morning checks Pete as most drivers are always checking things when loading and delivering
loads.You automatically seem to wander around the truck kicking tyres.
However missing 3 broken springs or a chassis thats snapped is a bit of a worry chap ! Maybe Tilcon should have
offered some of the drivers free spec savers appointments !

Haha, we rarely looked at springs unless we heard one break Dean! The lad who had the chassis break started on one of the half cab Fodens and when he came in for service one day he mentioned that the steering had been heavy ''for a week or so", when the engine cover was lifted the fitter noticed that the power steering reservoir (bolted to the rear of the compressor) had dropped off of the pump and was wedged on the engine. Surprised that the driver hadn’t noticed he asked him driver when he had last checked the oil: “well it still had oil pressure so I assumed it was OK” he said! He arrived at the quarry one day for a load, the manager followed him in and called him over to tell him that before he loaded he had better go and retrieve his taildoor which was in the middle of the road the other side of Ashbourne! He was a grand chap though, and had a sad end as he suffered badly with his breathing for many years.

Pete.

You could write a book Pete about all these incidents. Tilcon obviously only emplyed “THE BEST DRIVER’S”

I wonder how many cars had driven over the tailboard by the time he retrieved it !

Foden from 1984.

nilocekyd:
Anyone recognise the Foden ■■ Thought it may have been Hoveringham at first but looking at it again i dont think it is ■■

The Foden is RH Roadstone, an amalgamation between Redland and Hoveringham. colours were split between the green of Redland and Orange of Hoveringham.

one seen earlier.

regards
Colin

Thanks for confirming that Colin,nice to see you back !

nilocekyd:
looking back through the recent uploads i noticed a couple of Ex-Clapcott units making an appearance. Both were in service during the 80’s although YAA has been recabbed.
regards
Colin

You did well to spot those 2 Colin.Thanks for the pics,good stuff.

I am glad you menioned Clapcott as i have been sat on this Scammell Trunker for a while as i could not remember
the company name !

ramone:
“neversweat1” Hi Dean - This Is Claude Fenton Plant Hire From Reading Berkshire - Depots in Southampton and Swindon

I remember Henry Longs getting their first 1418s my dad just missed out with his Atki 180 Gardner

Mercedes advert 1972.

finbarot:
One particular driver had difficulty with Gardner oil consumption.He was on a Foden that needed about half to three quarters of a gallon per day. He then swapped onto another wagon and continued throwing the same amount in daily.This 180 had recently been rebuilt.After a fortnight the Foden came into the workshop for being gutless and having low oil pressure .The oil was nearly flowing out of the rocker covers there was so much in her.He never ever dipped her, just put oil in daily!!
And Im sure Windrush has seen one where the overly keen apprentice has pumped so much grease into the clutch operating shaft, when only one pump was required, that he has filled the bell housing up with grease before he has realised there is a small problem!!
Of course, I was far far too clever to be caught out by such an amateur mistake

You cant beleive some of these driver’s “finbarot”

[deanb]

Mrsteel:
Dean B,
Good morning, Re: the Multiserv M.A.N. In November 95 I started with Faber Prest Steel Distribution the head office being in Strawberry Lane Willenhall and was the depot of R & M Shorthouse which eventually became Faber Prest Steel Distribution. Roy Shorthouse,son Ian was a director.
F.P.S.D became Multiserv and when I retired in 2011 was Harsco Distribution.
The trailer behind the M.A.N looks like an ex Lloyd’s of Ludlow one of several bought when Lloyd’s scaled back operations and iirc ran just two.
Regards, Allan

Mrsteel:
Hi Dean
Thanks for the photo of the F.P.S.D. DAF. It was a sister to one I drove , W994 JOG ,
Going back to the MAN it was one of a number on hire from Gullivers Cardiff .
Thanks again, Allan

Heres some more of Faber & Multiserv and Carline motor’s Allan.

Click on page twice to read.

[pv83]

Zurel had some D-series indeed Dean, with interesting sleeper conversion

[deanb]

pv83:
Zurel had some D-series indeed Dean, with interesting sleeper conversion

I knew they had them chap,thanks for popping them on !

[deanb]

B H Freight Renault.

Anyone recognise the Volvo ■■

Danepak Scania.

R.L.Edmunds tipper. Anyone know where they are from ■■

T.D.Williams trailer,not sure about the unit ■■

Anyone recognise the Scania from Cornwall ■■

Dont think we have had a Bull motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

Anyone know where the John Brash motor is from ■■

Mccadam Scania.

Downton Volvo.

[nilocekyd]

DEANB:
Thanks for confirming that Colin,nice to see you back !

You did well to spot those 2 Colin.Thanks for the pics,good stuff.

I am glad you menioned Clapcott as i have been sat on this Scammell Trunker for a while as i could not remember
the company name !

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Hi Dean, thank you, I do drop in from time to time to check on things, thank you for still keeping this thread going.

unfortunately the Scammell is not a Clapcott motor.

Not sure who’s though, Maybe Crow Carrying or Thomas Allen?

regards
Colin

[kempston]

Anyone know where the John Brash motor is from ■■

John Brash are from Gainsborough in Lincolnshire Dean. They used to run a few artics with really strange trailers iirc.

Just found a photo of one.