PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

coomsey:
Hi Pete, don’t recall any later than J reg n only Foden, would that be right?
Ideal for tipper work most lorries I drove never went anywhere near the passenger seat. N you could get to nearside window always a game on hot days on the road.Plenty of room for flask n snap.
Was there any payload gain? Paul

We had several J reg tippers but they were all short wheelbase 24 ton eight leggers. There were two J reg tankers, NRB 174 J and ORA 310 J, all the rest were long wheelbase thirty tonners on K plates. Several of the thirty tonners were recabbed with S40 Motor Panels cabs to give them a longer life as the half cabs rotted badly, plus there were insurance issues with there only being one door in case of an accident. I took most of them to North riding Garages at Middleton St George for recabbing and engine overhaul while the cabs were off. Payload was about the same as the plastic S39 cabbed ones I think, around 21 tonnes. They did plenty of distance work, Isle of Wight and back in the day and Truro, Scotland, Crediton and down into Kent were regular runs. Of course during winter the sugar factory at Felsted in Essex had a large tonnage of limestone daily so they were kept busy on that.

Pete.

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pete 359:
hi all,
i am loving these evocative images,every day it gets better and better.thanks for sharing.
regards andrew.

Pauls busy scanning the next batch !

backsplice:
I know all you lads appreciate that these photos are all PRE digital and there has been a lot of expense accumulating the collection …a lot of stuff just disappears without the enthusiasts … think of all the things most of us have seen but no camera ■■?

What a great collection … parking up now !!!

I think we all feel like that,should have taken a camera !

ERF-NGC-European:

DEANB:
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Mercedes, That cab lasted them years,although the steering wheels were too big !

That big steering wheel was the best thing about those NGs - loved 'em! lol. After that, the German’s dropped their long-standing legislation that all commercials should have big enough steering wheels to get the driver home in the event of power-assistance failure. It was a good common-sense rule: I’m only a little chap but I got an MAN home from Belgium with no power-steering one day because the big wheel enabled me to - and saved a fortune! Robert
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The only good thing about them was you could nod off on them ! :wink:

kingswinford kit:
Hey DEANB,nice kick off with that lot with the Issac Caswell Borderer . He had a big immaculate fleet and his Borderers were the finest in S Wales ,thanks again for some superb stuff,regards Keith .

Thanks for the input Keith !

windrush:

DEANB:
Half cab yes brill pic B D Whitwick A R C had 4 drove 1 on nights dry stone to M Keynes for a while , alright I thought but called Animals by everybody

Cant really remember them coomsey,but must have been a bit tight for storing your personal bits and bobs
you take to work. Would imagine that they were pretty rare ?■■

They were not THAT rare, at Tilcon our depot alone had around 20+ of them (tippers and powder tankers) and there were many more nationwide based at other quarries. Not a bad truck, you could just squeeze two people in the cab which we sometimes had to do on breakdowns but it was tight! Ivonbrook Quarries had a few as well locally, also ARC had a lot of tippers and mixers (ex St Ives Sand and Gravel I believe) but fitted with the ‘dumper’ type of half cab instead.

Pete.

Thanks Pete,coomsey for your comments ! :wink:

jshepguis:
Once again DEANB thanks for posting these superb photos. On the F88 agree that they do look better with the sun visor fitted. On that note remember when mating for Stevens running over Scammonden dam on the M62 a lorry passed us and when passed sudden wind gust blew visor slamming it back onto roof. I do remember driver saying it had happened before, and also another of Stevens F88 same problem smashing that one ,so was removed and never refitted. Just wondering if other drivers on here had same problem?

Never heard of that before ? Thanks for the observation.

HRS:

LR Man:
Thanks Dean and Paul for the great photos, any more of Bakers of Southampton? Excellent shot of Bakers Volvo F89 and top timing, Jimski has just finished building a model of this very truck for me, which my uncle, Phil Dibden used to drive!

Fantastic model, the man has a gift indeed.
I remember when it was draged back from a water dyke, might have been France, and it needed a shovel to get the mud out from inside the cab before it could be put back together again, Eric was so relaxed about it I could not believe it. In my earley days knowing Mr Baker he would have gone loopy. Harvey

Lovely motor and model Harvey. :smiley:

windrush:

coomsey:
Hi Pete, don’t recall any later than J reg n only Foden, would that be right?
Ideal for tipper work most lorries I drove never went anywhere near the passenger seat. N you could get to nearside window always a game on hot days on the road.Plenty of room for flask n snap.
Was there any payload gain? Paul

We had several J reg tippers but they were all short wheelbase 24 ton eight leggers. There were two J reg tankers, NRB 174 J and ORA 310 J, all the rest were long wheelbase thirty tonners on K plates. Several of the thirty tonners were recabbed with S40 Motor Panels cabs to give them a longer life as the half cabs rotted badly, plus there were insurance issues with there only being one door in case of an accident. I took most of them to North riding Garages at Middleton St George for recabbing and engine overhaul while the cabs were off. Payload was about the same as the plastic S39 cabbed ones I think, around 21 tonnes. They did plenty of distance work, Isle of Wight and back in the day and Truro, Scotland, Crediton and down into Kent were regular runs. Of course during winter the sugar factory at Felsted in Essex had a large tonnage of limestone daily so they were kept busy on that.

Pete.

Good point about only having one door !

DAF

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F88

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Transcon, looks like a removal truck ■■

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F88

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ERF

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Maggie

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MAN, Dont think the ministry would be to impressed with that today ?

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Dont see many Aveling Barford’s on the road.

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Crusader.

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Tidy transcon.

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Is the F88 with fridge a Greenaway from Cornwall used to do banana’s, real memory jerkers on here boys, Buzzer.

These Unic T 340 were built by Unic in their factory in Trappes ,west from Paris, the engine was a V8 one and gearbox was a 8 range homemade. The “group” cab was tilting , same as a Fiat one which did’nt on the Italian range.
It seems that the first one is from the Multi-Transport company who still exists in Le Puy en Velay ,but mainly owns Daf,Man and Mercedes.
The freight could be Michelin tyres.

Whats the odds that Mr B says something about the sheets on James Reid Ford Transcon. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Another cracking set of photos again DEANB thanks.

Buzzer:
Is the F88 with fridge a Greenaway from Cornwall used to do banana’s, real memory jerkers on here boys, Buzzer.

Hello Buzzer, sorry chap cant tell blew the pic up but where its on the move cant make the name out.

michel:
These Unic T 340 were built by Unic in their factory in Trappes ,west from Paris, the engine was a V8 one and gearbox was a 8 range homemade. The “group” cab was tilting , same as a Fiat one which did’nt on the Italian range.
It seems that the first one is from the Multi-Transport company who still exists in Le Puy en Velay ,but mainly owns Daf,Man and Mercedes.
The freight could be Michelin tyres.

Michel, Thanks for the information. Out of intrest,does anyone know if the Unic brand was sold in the UK ?
I know the Fiat with the same cab was,but a french driver was asking me if Unic’s were sold here. Although i
remember seeing Unic’s i dont know if they were actually marketed here ■■?

Stanfield:
Whats the odds that Mr B says something about the sheets on James Reid Ford Transcon. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Another cracking set of photos again DEANB thanks.

Funny you should mention that i thought exactly the same when i saw the sheet blowing in the wind. If you
look at the driver it looks like hes checking his mirror ! Probably muttering to himself . :wink:

Starting with a fine looking Foden tipper !

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Thats an early F86

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Single axle trailer on the TM,you dont see many of them these days.

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ERF, was on here yesterday photographed in a different spot.

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What can you say…

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Nice looking 6 wheeler TM.

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DAF

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Roman, i said originally that these were rare and then seemed to be posting alot of pics of them,thinking
that they must have been alot more common than i remembered. However Paul contacted me and assured
me they were rare but he always took a pic when he saw one ! Is that a Atkinson Borderer going the other
way ■■?

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Seddon Atkinson 400

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Merc looks a bit tired,could do with a wash !

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A few adverts from the period.

ERF ,no easy sheets in those days!

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Two Seddon Atkinsons running together from the same fleet.

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Mercedes.

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MAN

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Another Seddon Atkinson

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Breeding like rabbits !

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I bet the scania draw-bar was fun to reverse !

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Another scania

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Like the scania the F86 must have been fun with that dolly.

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Thanks for that photo of J R Margrett’s S-Atki, the driver of which was …? Marshall. As a dedicated ERF fan, J.R. couldn’t wait to get rid of the S/A- he reckoned that it spent twice as much time in the workshop (barn!) than the rest of the lorries put together.

DEANB:

Buzzer:
Is that a Atkinson Borderer going the other way ■■?

No, it’s a Motor Panels cab, so likely to be a Seddon or a Guy Big J

Buzzer:
Is the F88 with fridge a Greenaway from Cornwall used to do banana’s, real memory jerkers on here boys, Buzzer.

Well done Buzzer, you were spot on ! Since my post this morning Paul has emailed me a better pic of it ! :laughing:

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To my knowledge, Unic never sold lorries in England during the 50/70th . But they sold a lot Unic George Richard ( founder of the factory) as taxis in the beginning of the 1900 th to London city.

Join the “piggy back club” ! this was a common sight in the late 60’s and into the 70’s, particularly Scottish firms such as Sam Anderson. These two Bewick motors are on their way to Ellesmere Port IIRC when we had regular Russian pulp ships in and provided the bales of pulp were loaded straight onto “wheels” and didn’t touch the dock the Mill didn’t have to pay port fees ! so it was always a desperate panic to at short notice to get as many trailers into Ellesmere to load as much as possible straight onto trailers . The rest went into the Shed and we worked away on it over the following couple of weeks ! Cheers Bewick.

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DEANB:

Buzzer:
Is the F88 with fridge a Greenaway from Cornwall used to do banana’s, real memory jerkers on here boys, Buzzer.

Hello Buzzer, sorry chap cant tell blew the pic up but where its on the move cant make the name out.

michel:
These Unic T 340 were built by Unic in their factory in Trappes ,west from Paris, the engine was a V8 one and gearbox was a 8 range homemade. The “group” cab was tilting , same as a Fiat one which did’nt on the Italian range.
It seems that the first one is from the Multi-Transport company who still exists in Le Puy en Velay ,but mainly owns Daf,Man and Mercedes.
The freight could be Michelin tyres.

Michel, Thanks for the information. Out of intrest,does anyone know if the Unic brand was sold in the UK ?
I know the Fiat with the same cab was,but a french driver was asking me if Unic’s were sold here. Although i
remember seeing Unic’s i dont know if they were actually marketed here ■■?

Stanfield:
Whats the odds that Mr B says something about the sheets on James Reid Ford Transcon. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Another cracking set of photos again DEANB thanks.

Funny you should mention that i thought exactly the same when i saw the sheet blowing in the wind. If you
look at the driver it looks like hes checking his mirror ! Probably muttering to himself . :wink:

Starting with a fine looking Foden tipper !

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Thats an early F86

Single axle trailer on the TM,you dont see many of them these days.

ERF, was on here yesterday photographed in a different spot.

What can you say…

Nice looking 6 wheeler TM.

DAF

Roman, i said originally that these were rare and then seemed to be posting alot of pics of them,thinking that
they must have been alot more common than i remembered. However Paul contacted me and assured me they
were rare but he always took a pic when he saw one ! Is that a Atkinson Borderer going the other way ■■?

Seddon Atkinson 400

Merc looks a bit tired,could do with a wash !

My God Dean had the red Cliffe hill Foden for a day.The only red un the rest Tarmac khaki
ERF Murphy’s sister above

Indeed Coomsey lad, I was told once it was a one off to celebrate the silver jubilee of '77. It’s a superb photo.

And to Dean - I know a chap that is compiling a book on Tarmac’s history and would love to include the pic in his book. Full copyright details will be included and Paul will be mentioned in the acknowledgements.

I think that airflow wagon and drag was driven by Sid bishop from Caerphilly for airflow Blackwood and the catnic scania with that trailor topped would have been something wrong with it as we only topped if there was a problem these pictures of Paul gees are brilliant regards rowly

Great stuff on this thread …thanks DEANB …That Caswell Borderer brings back memories …Coopers filters Llanfoist mostly in tautliners …they also on occasions …hauled chimney pots from a factory in Brecon …magic ! …Geraint .

Retired Old ■■■■:
Thanks for that photo of J R Margrett’s S-Atki, the driver of which was …? Marshall. As a dedicated ERF fan, J.R. couldn’t wait to get rid of the S/A- he reckoned that it spent twice as much time in the workshop (barn!) than the rest of the lorries put together.

Thanks for the observation Retired Old ■■■■ !

240 Gardner:

DEANB:

Buzzer:
Is that a Atkinson Borderer going the other way ■■?

No, it’s a Motor Panels cab, so likely to be a Seddon or a Guy Big J

Cheers 240 Gardner i thought you would know if it was a Borderer or not ! :wink:

michel:
To my knowledge, Unic never sold lorries in England during the 50/70th . But they sold a lot Unic George Richard ( founder of the factory) as taxis in the beginning of the 1900 th to London city.

Thanks for the reply Michel,appreciate it !

Bewick:
A00162.JPG Join the “piggy back club” ! this was a common sight in the late 60’s and into the 70’s, particularly Scottish firms such as Sam Anderson. These two Bewick motors are on their way to Ellesmere Port IIRC when we had regular Russian pulp ships in and provided the bales of pulp were loaded straight onto “wheels” and didn’t touch the dock the Mill didn’t have to pay port fees ! so it was always a desperate panic to at short notice to get as many trailers into Ellesmere to load as much as possible straight onto trailers . The rest went into the Shed and we worked away on it over the following couple of weeks ! Cheers Bewick.

Thanks for the pic Dennis ! I bet there were some big ques of trucks waiting to load,so they did not
get charged the fees !

BonkeyDollocks:
Indeed Coomsey lad, I was told once it was a one off to celebrate the silver jubilee of '77. It’s a superb photo.

And to Dean - I know a chap that is compiling a book on Tarmac’s history and would love to include the pic in his book. Full copyright details will be included and Paul will be mentioned in the acknowledgements.

Thanks coomsey for your input again and the pic ! :wink:

BonkeyDollocks, I have sent Paul a message asking him about the pic,but would imagine it will be fine
as he is pretty chilled ! :sunglasses: Will let you know when i hear back from him.

rward:
I think that airflow wagon and drag was driven by Sid bishop from Caerphilly for airflow Blackwood and the catnic scania with that trailor topped would have been something wrong with it as we only topped if there was a problem these pictures of Paul gees are brilliant regards rowly

Long time no speak Rowly ! Thanks for your input,hope you are well,sent you a PM.

kenfig bill:
Great stuff on this thread …thanks DEANB …That Caswell Borderer brings back memories …Coopers filters Llanfoist mostly in tautliners …they also on occasions …hauled chimney pots from a factory in Brecon …magic ! …Geraint .

Thanks for your comments kenfig bill, Paul will be pleased its bringing back memories to so many people !

A couple of ERF’s

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Day cab Crusader.

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Seddon Atkinson 400

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Guy Big J

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Immacualte 2800 Daf,must be new i would imagine. Unusual company name Ernest Waudsy !

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DAF

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Tidy 111 Scania.

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Bedford TM training vehicle.

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Scammell,from memory i think it was a Handyman ■■?

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Foden,cab looks big in that picture ?

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One of Calor’s ERF’s.

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Convoy of ERF’s. The thing you notice about the pics when you can see a bit more road,is just how
quiet it was back then !

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Guy Big J and ERF

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Hicks Seddon Atkinson.

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Bee’s Scania.

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ERF and Leyland.

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Plain DAF

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Mercedes.

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Old Foden.

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Foden.

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Some period adverts.