David
you scared me there for a second.I thought you were going to say the Big Js had 240s in them!!
Phew!! 
finbarot:
David
you scared me there for a second.I thought you were going to say the Big Js had 240s in them!!
Phew!!
No,the big Percy’s were on days and night trunks,the 150’s were dedicated and sign written in blue OCL colours,but they had to return to Maddiston annually for testing,and I usually drew the short straw to trunk them back with a light load of ISR metal stillages from Manchester,bloody freezing things,even with the grill boarded off!
David
Polish GBH :
Morning Dean,
The Foden bulker is one of Oscar Johnson’s from Walsall, he bought 2nd hand Kendrick motors so they would have been well run in by the time he had hold of them.
The Renault is one of Weavers from Sutton Coldfield, their yard was just off Kingsbury road Minworth Birmingham. They had the Dodge dealership next to Sutton railway station and used Dodge commando’s in their fleet and then progressed with a Renault dealership when Renault bought Dodge. The dealership always traded as Allports and they are still trading on Fradley Ind est Lichfield.
I think the Scania may have been one of M A Evans from Knighton Powis, only going by the reg number!
windrush:
Your friend still bought the engine even though he was told it was knackered ■■
[/i]Waters bought it Dean, he only collected it. The gaffer is always right thee knows.
It ran away and piled up, and the garage was reprimanded by the law for not letting him have the linings even though he couldn’t pay for them!
Being ‘in the red’ was prevalent even in the eighties: when I used to go to Reg Knowles at Alfreton for Foden parts he had a board over the counter with the names of companies who’s accounts had been frozen because of non payment. Tarmac always topped the list, ARC were usually next and Tilcon and NCB occasionally appeared on it! I went for a wiring loom one day: “no chance unless you have cash lad” Reg said. So I phoned the quarry, they asked me to go home as my house was only a few miles away and get some cash and they would reimburse me and that’s what I did!
Pete.
Thanks for your comments Pete. 
Talking about dodgy motors i can remember seeing a muck away Routeman with a
large lump of wood wedged in between spring leafs where one had broke.
My grandad traded 2 Thames Traders in for 2 new Commers and they could not understand why one of them was using so
much oil. Anyway under investigation it turned out that the engine had never had the oil rings fitted when it was built.
michel:
Berliet GBH in Argentina.
Thanks for the pic “michel” Heres another one.
Mrsteel:
Dean B
The Big J loaded with scrap was operated by R.H. ( Dickie ) Moore a scrap merchant based in Bridgend.
He was a bit of a character and he built a large house on the outskirts of town which was known by some as Southfork. More memories of days gone by.
Regards Allan
Thanks for the info about the Guy Allan. “Southfork”
ArcDaz:
“DEANB”
Hi Dean you are a star fantastic stuff in this magazine i throught you would have this one this same magazine was on ebay about three weeks ago i placed a bid on it but sadley missed out as i got outbidded by some one else and sold for£7.50 plus postage on top Many Thanks mate sharing and posting these articles on this theard for me Regards Daz
No worries Daz. Will pop something on later.
finbarot:
Hi Dean
re the 1976 Tip-In, I was surprised that the Foden six wheeler had a Gardner 150 fitted?
I thought they had finished way earlier and it was all 180s by then, but obviously not.
Well there were still alot of 180’s around in artics so i suppose a 150 in a six wheeler was powerful in comparison when
you think about it. I think is easy to forget we are talking about 45 years ago !
Froggy55:
“DEANB”Thanks for this very interesting article I read from the first to the last page, and also for the full report on the Berliet GBH (I do of course have it at home). I didn’t know Berliet tippers had been exported, or at least offered for sale on the British market.
I drove several of them, ranging from the 1964 GLM 10 6x4 (a terrible crawler with 180 Bhp SAE) to the GBH 260 (see picture). The cab was pleasant and roomy, with good access and visibility.A really pleasant to drive bonneted truck, though more recent, was the Iveco 330-30 with a Magirus chassis and cab, the big 13.7 litre Fiat engine, and Fuller gearbox.
Comfortable and brilliant. A little technical data belowAnd, once more, I’m surprised to notice that, in 1980, a 24-ton tipper was offered on the British market with only 140 bhp (Ford); in France, that would have broughth us back to the early 1950s! England (I lived in London for 8 years) is at least as hilly as France!
Thanks for the comments and pics/spec sheets “Froggy55”
I had a quick look at the 1980 motor show report and the Berliet GBH was not listed as being on show.
Some of the tipper boys will know more than me,but i dont remember ever seeing one in the UK. I am sure they did sell
some but i dont think they would have sold that many. Alot more competition back in the 70’s & 80’s with so many more
manufacturers than now. I would think that the conventional Magirus Deutz,MAN,Volvo,Mercedes would have probably
been the largest european sellers of conventional chassis back then in the UK.
kenfig bill:
“DEANB”More tipper / bulkers.
Hello Dean …those Sharples Fodens were in and out of Margham for years …hauling in foundry sand and steel out for the Midland car industry …
their drivers were known to bribe the loaders with sacks of potatoes to speed up loading , …lol …Geraint
Thanks for the comments “kenfig bill”
Posted an article about Sharples on page 58 of the thread.
coomsey:
“finbarot” Hi Dean
re the 1976 Tip-In, I was surprised that the Foden six wheeler had a Gardner 150 fitted?
I thought they had finished way earlier and it was all 180s by then, but obviously not.They’d have more oomph than a 8whlr with the 180 finbarot. I once followed one of our S21 8whlrs with the 150 to a job n he left me for dead,(why is it when someones leading the way to a place they try their hardest to lose you?) me n the S80 were feeling a little deflated at the end. Cheers Coomsey
“feeling a little deflated”
5thwheel:
“finbarot” Hi Dean
re the 1976 Tip-In, I was surprised that the Foden six wheeler had a Gardner 150 fitted?
I thought they had finished way earlier and it was all 180s by then, but obviously not.SoM had 2 or 3 Big J’s on contract to OCL,they had 150 Percy’s,early 80’s that would be.
David
Cheers David.
5thwheel:
[quote=“finbarot”
David you scared me there for a second.I thought you were going to say the Big Js had 240s in them!!
Phew!!No,the big Percy’s were on days and night trunks,the 150’s were dedicated and sign written in blue OCL colours,but they had to return to Maddiston annually for testing,and I usually drew the short straw to trunk them back with a light load of ISR metal stillages from Manchester,bloody freezing things,even with the grill boarded off!
David
The thing i always remember about my grandads GUY was it always had to build air in the morning for about a minute with
that bloody buzzer going on the back wall of the cab !
michel:
Polish GBH :
Cheers “michel”
pete smith:
Morning Dean,
The Foden bulker is one of Oscar Johnson’s from Walsall, he bought 2nd hand Kendrick motors so they would have been well run in by the time he had hold of them.The Renault is one of Weavers from Sutton Coldfield, their yard was just off Kingsbury road Minworth Birmingham. They had the Dodge dealership next to Sutton railway station and used Dodge commando’s in their fleet and then progressed with a Renault dealership when Renault bought Dodge. The dealership always traded as Allports and they are still trading on Fradley Ind est Lichfield.
I think the Scania may have been one of M A Evans from Knighton Powis, only going by the reg number!
Like you say those Fodens of Oscar Johnson’s would have seen the life as we have had some pics on here of a few tired
looking ones of Kendrick’s.
Cheers for the comments about Weavers and the Scania.
Heres a bit on the Dodge Commando’s.
Click on pages twice to read.
pete smith:
Morning Dean,
The Foden bulker is one of Oscar Johnson’s from Walsall, he bought 2nd hand Kendrick motors so they would have been well run in by the time he had hold of them.The Renault is one of Weavers from Sutton Coldfield, their yard was just off Kingsbury road Minworth Birmingham. They had the Dodge dealership next to Sutton railway station and used Dodge commando’s in their fleet and then progressed with a Renault dealership when Renault bought Dodge. The dealership always traded as Allports and they are still trading on Fradley Ind est Lichfield.
I think the Scania may have been one of M A Evans from Knighton Powis, only going by the reg number!
(DeanB wrote) My grandad traded 2 Thames Traders in for 2 new Commers and they could not understand why one of them was using so
much oil. Anyway under investigation it turned out that the engine had never had the oil rings fitted when it was built.
In the 1950’s some Rootes petrol engines in the Hillman Minx range etc were not fitted with oil rings from new, the piston groove was left empty until the engine wore and started burning oil and then it was dismantled and an oil ring fitted.
Pete.
pete smith:
Morning Dean,I think the Scania may have been one of M A Evans from Knighton Powis, only going by the reg number!
Look like you were right Pete about that being an ex M.A.Evans motor,Paul just sent me this pic
Nice pic “coomsey”
windrush:
(DeanB wrote) My grandad traded 2 Thames Traders in for 2 new Commers and they could not understand why one of them was using so
much oil. Anyway under investigation it turned out that the engine had never had the oil rings fitted when it was built.In the 1950’s some Rootes petrol engines in the Hillman Minx range etc were not fitted with oil rings from new, the piston groove was left empty until the engine wore and started burning oil and then it was dismantled and an oil ring fitted.
Pete.
Never heard of that before Pete ! Sounds a crap idea in my opinion.
New Milton Sand & Ballast Scania.
T.S.I. International Renault.
Anyone recognise the Mercedes fridge truck ■■
DHL Scania tanker.
Managh Mercedes.
Rygor Mercedes.
“windrush” Pete, i dont expect you ever had an automatic tailboard when you were on the tipper’s ?
Anyone recognise the Scania 8 wheeler ■■
Anyone recognise the Scania ■■
Cant remember if we have had a Lawtrans motor on before,anyone know where they were based ■■
Morning Dean,
The Foden bulker is one of Oscar Johnson’s from Walsall, he bought 2nd hand Kendrick motors so they would have been well run in by the time he had hold of them.
Hi Pete.
Kendricks and Oscar W Johnsons were regular sights on A449/A40/M50 loaded with coke int 60s and 70s heading north. When I were on Ross or Chepstow trunk in 80s I saw odd ones at night as well.
Some random tippers.
Click on once/twice to read.
J.W. & E Smiths transport from Peterborough.
Northover Transport MAN.
Brackmills Volvo.
G.M.Pearson & Son Seddon Atkinson. Anyone know where they were from ■■
Dobsons ERF from Cheshire. Is this the same Dobson as the one from Scotland, Edinburgh i think ■■
J.Bairner ERF.
Erewash Garage rare Bedford TM 8 wheeler. I dont remember ever actually seeing a TM 8 wheeler ?
Does anyone know if they made/sold many ■■
The great looking Leyland Super Hippo.
DEANB:
Erewash Garage rare Bedford TM 8 wheeler.
Does anyone know if they made/sold many ■■
If I remember rightly, this was a Primrose conversion of a 6x4 chassis
DEANB:
New Milton Sand & Ballast Scania.9
T.S.I. International Renault.
8
Anyone recognise the Mercedes fridge truck ■■
7
DHL Scania tanker.
6
Managh Mercedes.
5
Rygor Mercedes.
4
“windrush” Pete, i dont expect you ever had an automatic tailboard when you were on the tipper’s ?
3
Anyone recognise the Scania 8 wheeler ■■
2
Anyone recognise the Scania ■■
1
Cant remember if we have had a Lawtrans motor on before,anyone know where they were based ■■
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Get a few ton of sand and ballast in that New Milton trailer 
Hi Dean looking at the Dobson ERF it’s a different company from the Edinburgh one cheers Ray
Yes Dean, we had one S reg Foden S83 with an automatic taildoor. ‘Big Sam’ Hambleton had it new, the lower door hinged up from underneath on a ram and Sam still had to clean it off after tipping so no real advantage, plus it was heavy and we never really trusted it either. Our TM was proud of the lorry though and after the first day asked Sam what he thought of it. Sam told him that it was a lovely truck to drive but there was one problem: “What is that?” the TM asked. ’ They forgot to put an engine in it’ Sam replied! The S83’s were higher geared than the S50’s and S80’s he was used to so didn’t pull quite so well on hills. Anyway with being the longest serving driver (actually the longest serving employee full stop) he got first dibs on any new trucks and was soon given a new Sed Ak 400 which he liked.
Pete.
The G.M.Pearsons Sedaki , They were based at Hetton le Hole in Durham, Regards Larry.
Hi Dean
As Larry has said GM Pearson were a large building company based at Hetton le Hole, near Houghton.
Back in the 60’s and early 70’s they did a lot of house building for Gateshead Council. In those days All the trades were on the books and had to report to the yard at Hetton and they had several ex Northern Transport double deck buses which they used to get everyone from the yard to the various sites.
In the mid 70’s the building work declined and the yard which IIRC had been part of the Hetton Pit was developed as an Industrial Estate and is still known as Pearson’s Ind Estate.
At this time they decided to go into Transport and through their business connections became the main transport provider for several open cast coal sites in Co Durham and had a large fleet of 8 wheel and artic tippers, mostly Foden with Rolls and Caterpillar engines, Gardeners were deemed to slow !!
Most of the wagons had two way radios installed and good friend of mine who is a self employed radio engineer (now nearly 70 and still repairing car radios and sat nav’s) fitted the vast majority of them on behalf of a local communication company.
The family also bought a large farm on Hetton Moor and were breeding Charolais cattle.
In the late 80’s the open cast sites were winding down and the wagons seemed to gradually disappear and I think the farm was also eventually sold. Don’t really hear of the Pearson’s now but I think they still have various property interests around the area. Apologies for the length of this post !!
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Chris Webb:
Morning Dean,
The Foden bulker is one of Oscar Johnson’s from Walsall, he bought 2nd hand Kendrick motors so they would have been well run in by the time he had hold of them.Hi Pete.
Kendricks and Oscar W Johnsons were regular sights on A449/A40/M50 loaded with coke int 60s and 70s heading north. When I were on Ross or Chepstow trunk in 80s I saw odd ones at night as well.
Thanks for the commets Chris, we have had some cracking pics of both companies on here.
240 Gardner:
“DEANB”
Erewash Garage rare Bedford TM 8 wheeler.
Does anyone know if they made/sold many ■■If I remember rightly, this was a Primrose conversion of a 6x4 chassis
Your right Chris,just checked the archives and i posted this before but forgot.
Suedehead:
“DEANB” New Milton Sand & Ballast Scania.Get a few ton of sand and ballast in that New Milton trailer
Can you imagine how heavy that would be if you loaded it full with sand…
They must have been involved in some waste,landfill work.
stargazer148:
Hi Dean looking at the Dobson ERF it’s a different company from the Edinburgh one cheers Ray
I did wonder Ray,thanks for confirming.
Just found one of Dobson from Edinburgh.
windrush:
Yes Dean, we had one S reg Foden S83 with an automatic taildoor. ‘Big Sam’ Hambleton had it new, the lower door hinged up from underneath on a ram and Sam still had to clean it off after tipping so no real advantage, plus it was heavy and we never really trusted it either. Our TM was proud of the lorry though and after the first day asked Sam what he thought of it. Sam told him that it was a lovely truck to drive but there was one problem: “What is that?” the TM asked. ’ They forgot to put an engine in it’ Sam replied! The S83’s were higher geared than the S50’s and S80’s he was used to so didn’t pull quite so well on hills.Pete.
S reg. I never realised they were making them that long ago Pete. I imagine the time when they are handy is if you
are tipping somewhere where its a foot deep of mud and saves you getting out.
Lawrence Dunbar:
The G.M.Pearsons Sedaki , They were based at Hetton le Hole in Durham, Regards Larry.
Thanks for the info Larry.
tyneside:
Hi Dean
As Larry has said GM Pearson were a large building company based at Hetton le Hole, near Houghton.
Back in the 60’s and early 70’s they did a lot of house building for Gateshead Council. In those days All the trades were on the books and had to report to the yard at Hetton and they had several ex Northern Transport double deck buses which they used to get everyone from the yard to the various sites.
In the mid 70’s the building work declined and the yard which IIRC had been part of the Hetton Pit was developed as an Industrial Estate and is still known as Pearson’s Ind Estate.
At this time they decided to go into Transport and through their business connections became the main transport provider for several open cast coal sites in Co Durham and had a large fleet of 8 wheel and artic tippers, mostly Foden with Rolls and Caterpillar engines, Gardeners were deemed to slow !!
Most of the wagons had two way radios installed and good friend of mine who is a self employed radio engineer (now nearly 70 and still repairing car radios and sat nav’s) fitted the vast majority of them on behalf of a local communication company.
The family also bought a large farm on Hetton Moor and were breeding Charolais cattle.
In the late 80’s the open cast sites were winding down and the wagons seemed to gradually disappear and I think the farm was also eventually sold. Don’t really hear of the Pearson’s now but I think they still have various property interests around the area. Apologies for the length of this post !!
Tyneside
Thanks for the comments about Pearson’s Tyneside. Intresting stuff chap and sounds like they were pretty shrewd with
there business activities.
Anyone recognise the DAF bulker ■■
Anyone recognise the DAF with fridge trailer ■■
Look like T.D.Williams Volvo.
Anyone know what the initials MRS stand for on the Renault ■■
A couple of tippers having a break.
Greyroads Foden bulker.
Anyone recognise the Magnum ■■
L.E.Jones Scania.
MWT Mercedes. Anyone know what the initials stand for ■■
Anyone recognise the ERF ■■
The only auto tail gate we had was fitted to a new R reg Bison (OCN 922R) it was also operated by a central mounted air ram under the body. As you it was ok going to tip but afterwards there was always that nagging doubt if it had closed properly and you often got out to have a look which sort of defeated the object !! After a couple of years and some site damage the whole lot was removed and a new conventional tail gate made and fitted.
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