PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[deanb]

robthedog:
“240 Gardner”

Abacus Logistics are from Southampton (Eling Wharf at Totton, if my ageing memory serves me right), and were one of the hauliers that I took on to work directly for MOL during my time as head of logistics there. I think we probably started using them around 2006/7.

Indeed run by the Carr brothers

Thanks for the comment Rob.

essexpete:
“DEANB”

Road test 1957.

Thanks for posting. Interesting to look through. I wonder how the Thornycroft rated along side other popular 8 wheelers of the day? Some of the cabs look smart. It reads that the marque had some upto date features with assisted steering and effective brakes.

Hello Pete, Reading the test they seemed very impressed with it and it all seems very positive. Like you say it featured some upto date
features that no other 8 wheeler at the time had according to the article. I think i have one for the Leyland Octopus which i will pop on.

Thanks!

robthedog:
“240 Gardner”

Abacus Logistics are from Southampton (Eling Wharf at Totton, if my ageing memory serves me right), and were one of the hauliers that I took on to work directly for MOL during my time as head of logistics there. I think we probably started using them around 2006/7.

Indeed run by the Carr brothers

Dean

They didn’t have a depot at Hurn airport but used to run about 3 or 4 motors a night out of there for target express up to there hubs which became city link until its demise so don’t know if they still have work out of there or not

That explains why i kept seeing them then,cheers Rob.

robthedog:
Cant make the name out on the Roadrain ■■ Has 2 x Zanussi trailers so imagine hes taking those to Poole docks to ship out.

Hi Dean
That Roadtrain I reckon will be Heronfreight, they used to pull Zanussi don’t know if it was part of Greenwood’s or an independent co

Thanks for the name Rob.

ArcDaz:
Some more great golden oldies here again which you have posted up today Grand work Dean

Cheers Daz.

blue estate:
“240 Gardner”

Abacus Logistics are from Southampton (Eling Wharf at Totton, if my ageing memory serves me right), and were one of the hauliers that I took on to work directly for MOL during my time as head of logistics there. I think we probably started using them around 2006/7.

Yep they’re still hauling containers and still at Eling wharf and same livery

Sent from my truck

Thanks “blue estate”

gazzap:
Hi all the orange road train is greenwood’s greenwoods was sold to baileys of westbury which in turn sold out to heron . Harold ronson owned the heron group he was one of people involved in the Guinness scandle
Regards gazzap

Changed hands a few times then “gazzap” ! Thanks for the info chap.

Buzzer:
Could the Volvo be W.T.Burden, the trailer looks enclosed and my thoughts are it is for potato carrying and it looks like something farms under the name on the door, Buzzer

Reckon your right Buzzer.

finbarot:
hi dean
Love the Drinkwater Sabey Foden Haulmaster.Possibly on its way to Truckfest?

Rear mudguard aken a bit of a hit Tony. “Truckfest”

finbarot:
Dean
could the brown Foden S80 tipper be ex Henry Streeters of Croyden?
Great shots as per usual

Its possible i could be an ex Streeters as no name on it so maybe an owner driver ?

Suedehead:
Noticed more than a couple of James Young lories. Did they hail from Stonehouse/ Stroud area ?

Hopefully someone will know “Suedehead”

smallcoal:
"steelboyf10"Hey Andrew, isn’t Lye Spencer have a drop in Southall, opposite Heathrow?, they had Mercs at that site…or are my grey cells making this up…

They always used to sign your notes, “marked with white rust”, one of Shone’s told them they were racist , on Friday always had a 12 o clock deadline, but we still stopped at Tern Hill on the way down!!!

Hi steelboy,yes lye southall used to go there regularly with blue line tip then load out of isle of dogs for Swindon ,lot of steel went from the abbey up there

Thanks for your comments John & “steelboyf10”

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”
Just had a look at Paul’s website again and its a fantastic source of information,thanks for the link Chris.

Heres a bit about the Killingbeck auction when they finished.

Ah the infamous “dead cat cab”! It didn’t sell at the auction, and we bought it, plus an ex-Riding cab, together with a few other other bits that didn’t sell.

The Killingbeck cab went on immediately to one of our Yorkshire friends the following weekend (unloaded by an AEC Militant!):

Looking at the prices Chris,there were a few bargains. Thanks for the pic and comments.

Heres a bit about the AEC Militant.

Click on pages twice to read.

240 Gardner:
"gazzap"Hi all the orange road train is greenwood’s greenwoods was sold to baileys of westbury which in turn sold out to heron . Harold ronson owned the heron group he was one of people involved in the Guinness scandle
Regards gazzap

He was indeed, and he was sent down for it. He was Gerald Ronson, though
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ronson

Wikipedia is a cracking site for info,thanks for the link Chris.

tc trans:
“robthedog”

Cant make the name out on the Roadrain ■■ Has 2 x Zanussi trailers so imagine hes taking those to Poole docks to ship out.

Hi Dean
That Roadtrain I reckon will be Heronfreight, they used to pull Zanussi don’t know if it was part of Greenwood’s or an independent co

Heron Freight were after Greenwoods, they had the contract with Electrolux for many years, Heron were to do with that guy Gerald Ronson who got embroiled in some share scandal, and then there was a management buy out that became Merlin Distribution. Merlin covered the Electrolux contract nationwide for many years, which then morphed into Feigemerlin after the Germans bought in.

Thanks for the comments “tc rans”

Mrsteel:
Steel boy 10,
Hi, If you visited Lye Spencer at Southall you no doubt had dealings with Doug and the weasel that worked with him. Doug was a gentleman ( not ) whose main aim in life was to make life as difficult for a driver as he could.
When it all moved to Colnbrook he was just the same . He used to moan to us South Wales Faber boys the we were getting there the same time as the boys from Shotton and wanted to know why !. Apparently iirc he had a preference for the company of young men.
Regards Allan

There always one Allan.

[240_gardner]

DEANB:
Heres a bit about the AEC Militant.

Interesting read, thanks Dean

[arcdaz]

finbarot:
Dean
could the brown Foden S80 tipper be ex Henry Streeters of Croyden?
Great shots as per usual

DEANB:

robthedog:
“240 Gardner”

Abacus Logistics are from Southampton (Eling Wharf at Totton, if my ageing memory serves me right), and were one of the hauliers that I took on to work directly for MOL during my time as head of logistics there. I think we probably started using them around 2006/7.

Indeed run by the Carr brothers

Thanks for the comment Rob.

essexpete:
“DEANB”

Road test 1957.

Thanks for posting. Interesting to look through. I wonder how the Thornycroft rated along side other popular 8 wheelers of the day? Some of the cabs look smart. It reads that the marque had some upto date features with assisted steering and effective brakes.

Hello Pete, Reading the test they seemed very impressed with it and it all seems very positive. Like you say it featured some upto date
features that no other 8 wheeler at the time had according to the article. I think i have one for the Leyland Octopus which i will pop on.

Thanks!

robthedog:
“240 Gardner”

Abacus Logistics are from Southampton (Eling Wharf at Totton, if my ageing memory serves me right), and were one of the hauliers that I took on to work directly for MOL during my time as head of logistics there. I think we probably started using them around 2006/7.

Indeed run by the Carr brothers

Dean

They didn’t have a depot at Hurn airport but used to run about 3 or 4 motors a night out of there for target express up to there hubs which became city link until its demise so don’t know if they still have work out of there or not

That explains why i kept seeing them then,cheers Rob.

robthedog:
Cant make the name out on the Roadrain ■■ Has 2 x Zanussi trailers so imagine hes taking those to Poole docks to ship out.

Hi Dean
That Roadtrain I reckon will be Heronfreight, they used to pull Zanussi don’t know if it was part of Greenwood’s or an independent co

Thanks for the name Rob.

ArcDaz:
Some more great golden oldies here again which you have posted up today Grand work Dean

Cheers Daz.

blue estate:
“240 Gardner”

Abacus Logistics are from Southampton (Eling Wharf at Totton, if my ageing memory serves me right), and were one of the hauliers that I took on to work directly for MOL during my time as head of logistics there. I think we probably started using them around 2006/7.

Yep they’re still hauling containers and still at Eling wharf and same livery

Sent from my truck

Thanks “blue estate”

gazzap:
Hi all the orange road train is greenwood’s greenwoods was sold to baileys of westbury which in turn sold out to heron . Harold ronson owned the heron group he was one of people involved in the Guinness scandle
Regards gazzap

Changed hands a few times then “gazzap” ! Thanks for the info chap.

Buzzer:
Could the Volvo be W.T.Burden, the trailer looks enclosed and my thoughts are it is for potato carrying and it looks like something farms under the name on the door, Buzzer

Reckon your right Buzzer.

finbarot:
hi dean
Love the Drinkwater Sabey Foden Haulmaster.Possibly on its way to Truckfest?

Rear mudguard aken a bit of a hit Tony. “Truckfest”

finbarot:
Dean
could the brown Foden S80 tipper be ex Henry Streeters of Croyden?
Great shots as per usual

Its possible i could be an ex Streeters as no name on it so maybe an owner driver ?

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Hi Dean Great to see Henry Streeter poster and the above pic of the Foden tipper which i would say was ex streeter motor and now belong to a owner driver the company has sadly gone now.Many Thanks for posting them gems Daz

Suedehead:
Noticed more than a couple of James Young lories. Did they hail from Stonehouse/ Stroud area ?

Hopefully someone will know “Suedehead”

smallcoal:
"steelboyf10"Hey Andrew, isn’t Lye Spencer have a drop in Southall, opposite Heathrow?, they had Mercs at that site…or are my grey cells making this up…

They always used to sign your notes, “marked with white rust”, one of Shone’s told them they were racist , on Friday always had a 12 o clock deadline, but we still stopped at Tern Hill on the way down!!!

Hi steelboy,yes lye southall used to go there regularly with blue line tip then load out of isle of dogs for Swindon ,lot of steel went from the abbey up there

Thanks for your comments John & “steelboyf10”

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”
Just had a look at Paul’s website again and its a fantastic source of information,thanks for the link Chris.

Heres a bit about the Killingbeck auction when they finished.

Ah the infamous “dead cat cab”! It didn’t sell at the auction, and we bought it, plus an ex-Riding cab, together with a few other other bits that didn’t sell.

The Killingbeck cab went on immediately to one of our Yorkshire friends the following weekend (unloaded by an AEC Militant!):

Looking at the prices Chris,there were a few bargains. Thanks for the pic and comments.

Heres a bit about the AEC Militant.

Click on pages twice to read.

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1

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240 Gardner:
"gazzap"Hi all the orange road train is greenwood’s greenwoods was sold to baileys of westbury which in turn sold out to heron . Harold ronson owned the heron group he was one of people involved in the Guinness scandle
Regards gazzap

He was indeed, and he was sent down for it. He was Gerald Ronson, though
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ronson

Wikipedia is a cracking site for info,thanks for the link Chris.

tc trans:
“robthedog”

Cant make the name out on the Roadrain ■■ Has 2 x Zanussi trailers so imagine hes taking those to Poole docks to ship out.

Hi Dean
That Roadtrain I reckon will be Heronfreight, they used to pull Zanussi don’t know if it was part of Greenwood’s or an independent co

Heron Freight were after Greenwoods, they had the contract with Electrolux for many years, Heron were to do with that guy Gerald Ronson who got embroiled in some share scandal, and then there was a management buy out that became Merlin Distribution. Merlin covered the Electrolux contract nationwide for many years, which then morphed into Feigemerlin after the Germans bought in.

Thanks for the comments “tc rans”

Mrsteel:
Steel boy 10,
Hi, If you visited Lye Spencer at Southall you no doubt had dealings with Doug and the weasel that worked with him. Doug was a gentleman ( not ) whose main aim in life was to make life as difficult for a driver as he could.
When it all moved to Colnbrook he was just the same . He used to moan to us South Wales Faber boys the we were getting there the same time as the boys from Shotton and wanted to know why !. Apparently iirc he had a preference for the company of young men.
Regards Allan

There always one Allan.

[steam]

DEANB:
Think it says Yates Transport on the DAF.

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Tarmac Constructor.

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Cutlers of Poole Mercedes.

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S.R.S Eddolls Volvo F10 bulker. I imagine that first axle was fitted when the 38 ton limit came into force.
Can anyone make out if its from Chippenham,Wilts ■■

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Pace Petroleum Seddon Atkinson.

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Gemini Mercedes from Portsmouth.

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Anyone recognise the blue ERF tipper ■■ We have had alot of blue tippers all around the Poole/Bournemouth area but none have any
names onthem.I would imagine they must be a company, rather than owner drovers as they are all the same colour ?
Hi Dean, The blue ERF tipper is BJN 56 T and was owned by FW Eaton of Poole, I drove this truck back in 1984/5 for a while. Cheers
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J.R.Harding Foden.Posted an article about Harding’s on page 322.

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General Motors Bedford.

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Daz, Don Bush Constructor.

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[deanb]

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”

Heres a bit about the AEC Militant.

Interesting read, thanks Dean

ArcDaz:
“finbarot” Dean
could the brown Foden S80 tipper be ex Henry Streeters of Croyden?
Great shots as per usual

Its possible i could be an ex Streeters as no name on it so maybe an owner driver ?

Hi Dean Great to see Henry Streeter poster and the above pic of the Foden tipper which i would say was ex streeter motor and now belong to a owner driver the company has sadly gone now.Many Thanks for posting them gems Daz

Thanks for your comments Daz.

steam:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the blue ERF tipper ■■

We have had alot of blue tippers all around the Poole/Bournemouth area but none have any
names onthem.I would imagine they must be a company, rather than owner drovers as they are all the same colour ?

Hi Dean, The blue ERF tipper is BJN 56 T and was owned by FW Eaton of Poole, I drove this truck back in 1984/5 for a while. Cheers

Nice to see you back “steam” you are worse than me for going “AWOL”

Thanks for the info about the ERF. Thats Frank Eaton who’s yard was on the RHS between the Bakers Arms roundabout and the
roundabout going into the Ind Estate or did they have a yard somewhere else before that one ■■

I have a fair few more mystery blue tippers so i will pop them on over the next few weeks and see if you recognise any of them.
Any idea who operated these two,look like the same company ?

[deanb]

Steel and aluminium haulage.

Some odds and sods.

Hayes Freight Constructor.

Garston Mack. Fine bit of parking !

Robert Elder MAN.

Harry Potts Volvo from Sheffield.

William Merris Seddon from Cradley Heath.

Shepherds Transport from Halesowen.

F.E.Clarke Marathon from Walsall.

A.Stevens & Co from Great Ayton.

Click on pages twice to read. Not one of my better scans !

[deanb]

Sensible transport DAF car transporter.

Tate & Lyle ERF. Not had one on for a while and i see they have lost there livery, now bloody white !!

Cant remember if we have had a Roger Davies motor on before but no doubt Trevor will know.

Greyhound DAF.

Bloody lamp post !! H.Pryce & Son Volvo.

Dont think we have had a T1 Automotive motor on before,anyone know where they are based ■■

Anyone know where the SB Waste Management Volvo is from ■■

Anyone recognise the Scania ■■ There is a name on the spoiler ■■

Must be one of the best colour schemes around these days. Two of Pentons, saw one this week heading towards Poole.

Hadley Group Scania.

[deanb]

We have had a few of Walter Carefoot & Sons Atkinson defenders on here. I seem to remember “moomooland” telling
us that there yard was next door to W.J.Ridings at Longridge,near Preston.

Seddon Atkinson 400.

Heres one of here newer motors.

Click on pages twice to read.

[deanb]

I have posted this article before,but well worth a read.

Click on page twice.

Atkinson Defender brochure.

[deanb]

Dave Atley Plant DAF. Drivers got a pipe on the go,dont see many people smoking pipes anymore. Looks like a Datsun behind.

Ridgers Transport DAF rings a distant bell,anyone know where they are from ■■ I think they maybe from Poole or Lychett Matravers.
Imagine he has either just shipped into Poole or collected that trailer off Poole docks.

Whites MAN chucking out some smoke with a Don Bush Routeman behind. Whites had a large gravel/sand quarry thats now a
large landfill between Wimborne & Poole.

Laurent French DAF heading for Truckline,Poole.

Chris Dare DAF heading for Poole docks to drop that trailer off.

“steam” Heres another blue tipper. Volvo F86 seen here at Gravel Hill just before the Darbys corner roundabout.

Water Services Seddon Atkinson.

Anyone know what MID stands for and where the Merc is from ■■

Bejam Scania.

Anyone know where the JOBS Volvo was from ■■

[m_a_n_rules]

dean, M I D stood for midland industrial deliveries and were based nuneaton area and the bloke who owned it was the biggest ■■■■■■ i have
ever met… suffice to say the company never lasted long…

[ray_smyth]

Hi Dean, T.I. Automotive was one of many Tube Investment firms throughout the U.K.
This tall trailer would have carried stillages of silencers and exhaust pipes for the motor
industry. There was a large T.I. factory in Blackpool producing exhaust systems, but I
cant recall their name, I imagine Chris, 240 Gardner will have better Blackpool knowledge
than me. Other T.I. firms that I can remember were T.I. Raleigh Cycles, T.I. Creda Cookers,
T.I. Desford, T.I. Stainless, T.I. Weldless, T.I. Markland Scowcroft, T.I. England Tubes, the last
five companies were steel tube stockholders, all producing and supplying different types of tubes.

Cheers, Ray Smyth.

[arcdaz]

DEANB:
Dave Atley Plant DAF. Drivers got a pipe on the go,dont see many people smoking pipes anymore. Looks like a Datsun behind.

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Ridgers Transport DAF rings a distant bell,anyone know where they are from ■■ I think they maybe from Poole or Lychett Matravers.
Imagine he has either just shipped into Poole or collected that trailer off Poole docks.

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Whites MAN chucking out some smoke with a Don Bush Routeman behind. Whites had a large gravel/sand quarry thats now a
large landfill between Wimborne & Poole.

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Laurent French DAF heading for Truckline,Poole.

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Chris Dare DAF heading for Poole docks to drop that trailer off.

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“steam” Heres another blue tipper. Volvo F86 seen here at Gravel Hill just before the Darbys corner roundabout.

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Water Services Seddon Atkinson.

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Anyone know what MID stands for and where the Merc is from ■■

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Bejam Scania.

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Anyone know where the JOBS Volvo was from ■■

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Hello Dean all these pictrues are spot on again that shot of the whites Man eight wheel with the Don Bush Routeman tipper following behind sure is a stunner and a great catch too.PS I think Jobs had a dairy depot at Hanworth near Ealing area from 1920 to 1987 Currently Dairy Crest now Daz

[arcdaz]

DEANB:
We have had a few of Walter Carefoot & Sons Atkinson defenders on here. I seem to remember “moomooland” telling
us that there yard was next door to W.J.Ridings at Longridge,near Preston.

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Seddon Atkinson 400.

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Heres one of here newer motors.

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Click on pages twice to read.

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Dean this is Quality i often see Carefoot trucks were we live at the South Mimms services and going along the M25 M1 Motorways Daz

[steelboyf10]

Hi dean

Yes loaded out of Shotton, and thanks for uploading the article on the works, I had’t seen it before. Interesting to read how the BSC motors did the local work (good drops) and external hauliers did the other work…no change there then! I see an Alf Parry BMC in the article, a firm who was working in there until the end, when all the independent hauliers had to 10% sub via TDG, which heralded the end for most including the firm I worked for, Shones.

I have put a picture of a Harris “legend” Alistair (aka Mayor of Mold, as he was once), who I believe only recently passed away, the A series ERFs had 240 Gardner’s in them I recall, and they had a yard just outside of the works alongside the A55, other guy in the cab is Gareth Peers aka young snicker

The weigh bridge shot brought back some memories, wonder how many others enjoyed the joys of “check weigh’s” when the tickets didn’t match the payload, so they sent you back to get the coils re weighed…deep joy! - oh the power of the weigh bridge boys!. There we some real characters so far as drivers, in the late 70’s and 80’s, you would not gat away with some of the stunts pulled today !!!

I will dig out some pics of the regular hauliers if any ones interested, I have loaded some onto the North Wales thread in the past.

[steelboyf10]

Mrsteel:
Steel boy 10,
Hi, If you visited Lye Spencer at Southall you no doubt had dealings with Doug and the weasel that worked with him. Doug was a gentleman ( not ) whose main aim in life was to make life as difficult for a driver as he could.
When it all moved to Colnbrook he was just the same . He used to moan to us South Wales Faber boys the we were getting there the same time as the boys from Shotton and wanted to know why !. Apparently iirc he had a preference for the company of young men.
Regards Allan

Hi Allan, Smallcoal,

Don’t recall his name at LS Southhall, remember going to Colnbrook also, I agree they used to make you wait whilst they loaded there own, and made a fuss about any damage on coils, not sure how you damage an 8 ton coil on route!..did always chucks when notes endorsed with white rust!, funny how you always got a Southall on a Friday, ex Shotton

[steelboyf10]

one for mr Steel

[steelboyf10]

shotton yard

[pete_smith]

Hi Dean,
H W Pryce where from Wellington, sadly no longer in business

[pete_smith]

Dean,
S B Waste are from Wolverhampton and have quite a large fleet of skips, hooks and artic ejector fleet. That Volvo is fitted with a Trent Industry body complete with an up and away tailgate.