Hi dean,the John raymonds is my old Volvo I drove nice to see a pic of it
DEANB:
Mobil ERF in Southampton. Would there depot have been at Hythe ■■9
Abbey Hill Fiats.
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Pitter from Southampton.
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Anyone recognise the Mercedes taken in Southampton ■■?
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Dart ERF
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Robert will like this Frampton’s one.
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C.A.Green Transport Foden pulling a Atkins trailer off Poole docks. Drivers wearing a nice hat !
Anyone know where Green’s were from ■■
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TCD Ltd DAF. Anyone know what TCD stands for ■■?
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This is a cracker Daz !
Brilliant Picture Dean
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Southampton Road Transport ERF. Buzzer was this the company that was a joint venture between Meachers Tpt and another company who i cant
remember ■■?0
DEANB:
Mobil ERF in Southampton. Would there depot have been at Hythe ■■9
Abbey Hill Fiats.
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Pitter from Southampton.
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Anyone recognise the Mercedes taken in Southampton ■■?
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Robert will like this Frampton’s one.
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C.A.Green Transport Foden pulling a Atkins trailer off Poole docks. Drivers wearing a nice hat !
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TCD Ltd DAF. Anyone know what TCD stands for ■■?
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This is a cracker Daz !
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Southampton Road Transport ERF. Buzzer was this the company that was a joint venture between Meachers Tpt and another company who i cant
remember ■■?0
The Mobil Hythe Terminal was by “The Forest Home” on A326 IIRC about 10 tankers were based there
The yellow Merc tipper belongs to J & W Tipper Hire
The DART B series was operated by Pitter Transport
There were originally 4 subscribers to SRT .a few notes on them to follow
MANTRONIC:
John Raymond. Swansea Docks MTVolvo FL379 John Raymond Wales
smallcoal:
Hi dean,the John raymonds is my old Volvo I drove nice to see a pic of it
Fancy that John,sent you a PM chap !
ArcDaz:
This is a cracker Daz !
Brilliant Picture Dean
roolechat:
Mobil ERF in Southampton. Would there depot have been at Hythe ■■Pitter from Southampton.
Anyone recognise the Mercedes taken in Southampton ■■?
Southampton Road Transport ERF. Buzzer was this the company that was a joint venture between Meachers Tpt and another company who i cant
remember ■■?The Mobil Hythe Terminal was by “The Forest Home” on A326 IIRC about 10 tankers were based there
The yellow Merc tipper belongs to J & W Tipper Hire
The DART B series was operated by Pitter Transport
There were originally 4 subscribers to SRT .a few notes on them to follow
Thanks for the comments on those four companies,good stuff chap !
Album pics. Not taken by me.
Thomas Allen Seddon Atkinson tanker.
H.Kingham Scania.
Pelters Routeman.
Richard Joyce Guy tipper.
Town Mills Leyland.
N.Lyon Haulage Bedford
W & J Riding Atkinson.
Reive & Grossart ERF B.
Smith & Sons Foden tipper. Not sure where they were based ?
Anyone recognise the Foden,possibly an owner driver ■■?
New MAN at a show.
Anyone recognise the ERF ■■?
Henry Cole ERF load with straw,had a few of his on here.
J.F.Alford Scania.
Cant make the name out on the side of the GUY,anyone recognise it ■■?
McStone Group Maggie from New Milton. Dont remember this company,anyone know if they were anything to do with New Milton Sand & Ballast ■■?
David J.E.Coope Foden. Dont remember seeing one of these before anyone know anything about them ■■?
Roger Bettley Foden. As above anyone know anything ■■?
Permatrans Mercedes. I think they were bought out by Swains of Stretton ?
karl weiss:
cav551:
I thought that the Mandator tractor unit had a five ton front axle at one time. Many makes of unit at the time were only plated for 15tons. Also wasn’t there something about narrow and wide track front axles? AEC certainly produced more than one beam shape and stub axle set up, the same as some vehicles had Girling brakes, some Lockheed and there was definitely an AEC C spring brake which found its way onto certain Leyland models.No pictures I’m afraid, but Alan Firmin had two Mammoth Minor units UKM 285 H and the other one was either OKN 946 or 947G driven I think by Norman Dadson. 285 was destroyed in an accident on the M6 in which the driver, Stuart was sadly killed sometime around 1978/9.
Hi I have a photo of one of the two Firmins AEC Mammoth Minors when new with the new bulk tipping trailer , I cant remember the drivers name
The standard Mandator front axle was indeed plated at 5 tons, and the unit was 15 tons gvw. It was the narrow track axle. the Mandator rigid drawbar model had a wider 6 tons rated axle with power steering, gvw 16 tons, 32 tons gross train weight. This power steering option and axle could be specified on the tractor unit. The Mammoth Minor had even lighter front axles, each plated at 4.5 tons. Until Leyland got their hands on AEC they were very accommodating in building to customers’ individual specifications.
The S40 Foden tipper is almost certainly one of the Smith’s of Bletchingdon fleet, the reg number is an Oxfordshire one. I drove one of their ex Fodens (D704 PWL) for a couple of years, 1997-1999.
Pete.
Dean the GUY cattle truck looks like a N.B.TITE they had quite a few livestock lorries and I think they came from Dorset or Somerset but someone will know, Buzzer
Done a little investigation and N.B.Tite were indeed from Cerne Abbas, Dorset and here is a picture of another one of there’s, JD
Plus one more., just B.Tite this time.
hi Dean
I wanted to wish you a happy and peaceful Easter.
then I still wanted to thank you for the truck photos of the 70s and 80s.
I would like to see more photos of foreign trucks from the 70s and 80s.
Thank you so much !!!
still many wishes for a happy Easter
bye
MIMMO
The David Cooper Foden was from Mountsorrel (between Leicester and Loughborough.) Don’t remember them for lowloader work. Think they were tipper operators mainly.
The standard Mandator front axle was indeed plated at 5 tons, and the unit was 15 tons gvw. It was the narrow track axle. the Mandator rigid drawbar model had a wider 6 tons rated axle with power steering, gvw 16 tons, 32 tons gross train weight. This power steering option and axle could be specified on the tractor unit. The Mammoth Minor had even lighter front axles, each plated at 4.5 tons. Until Leyland got their hands on AEC they were very accommodating in building to customers’ individual specifications.
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Morning Gingerfold,
You have got my old brain cells going now. Back in the early 70’s I was asked if Volvo built a narrow track axled vehicle so it could oporate in the channel islands.
As I understood it AEC did.
MMD Flathouse quay Portsmouth were customers of mine and they were also interested, no we did’nt and I think things changed over there anyway, back to bed, Harvey
DEANB:
Anyone recognise the Foden,possibly an owner driver ■■?9
New MAN at a show.
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Anyone recognise the ERF ■■?
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Henry Cole ERF load with straw,had a few of his on here.
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J.F.Alford Scania.
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Cant make the name out on the side of the GUY,anyone recognise it ■■?
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McStone Group Maggie from New Milton. Dont remember this company,anyone know if they were anything to do with New Milton Sand & Ballast ■■?
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David J.E.Coope Foden. Dont remember seeing one of these before anyone know anything about them ■■?
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Roger Bettley Foden. As above anyone know anything ■■?
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Permatrans Mercedes. I think they were bought out by Swains of Stretton ?
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Hello DEAN ,yes Permatrans were bought out by Swains ,Trevor
Roger Bettley was based in the Sandbach area and used to run his lorries on brick work then he got into tankers in fact at one time he was in partnership with Steve Gibson when they started BulkHaul. In 2003 he along with myself and 2 other lads bought a tanker company of our then boss called Direct North West Ltd which we ran from one of the premises he owned on the old Foden works site. He served his time at Fodens and when it closed he bought quite a bit of the property off them and he rented it out to small companies.Last I heard he had moved out of the Sandbach area and was involved in property.One thing i will say about Roger is that he knew his stuff plus a cracking lad to get along with.
HRS:
The standard Mandator front axle was indeed plated at 5 tons, and the unit was 15 tons gvw. It was the narrow track axle. the Mandator rigid drawbar model had a wider 6 tons rated axle with power steering, gvw 16 tons, 32 tons gross train weight. This power steering option and axle could be specified on the tractor unit. The Mammoth Minor had even lighter front axles, each plated at 4.5 tons. Until Leyland got their hands on AEC they were very accommodating in building to customers’ individual specifications.
Morning Gingerfold,
You have got my old brain cells going now. Back in the early 70’s I was asked if Volvo built a narrow track axled vehicle so it could oporate in the channel islands.
As I understood it AEC did.
MMD Flathouse quay Portsmouth were customers of mine and they were also interested, no we did’nt and I think things changed over there anyway, back to bed, Harvey
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Hello Harvey, In my Spillers Milling days the main plant bakery on Jersey was one of our customers and I used to visit several times a year (it was a tough job I had but someone had to do it!). The trailers we sent over unaccompanied were standard length and width but needed a special exemption permit, as the maximum width for permanent Jersey based vehicles and trailers was 7’6". From memory I think the maximum length was 30’. We had to show a P30 plate on the trailers, and also on the occasional rigid we sent over now and again. Exempted width and length goods vehicles and trailers had to travel on designated routes and roads. I believe that nothing has changed on Jersey and exemption permits are still needed.
Stanfield:
Roger Bettley was based in the Sandbach area and used to run his lorries on brick work then he got into tankers in fact at one time he was in partnership with Steve Gibson when they started BulkHaul. In 2003 he along with myself and 2 other lads bought a tanker called Direct North West Ltd which we ran from one of the premises he owned on the old Foden works site. He served his time at Fodens and when it closed he bought quite a bit of the property off them and he rented it out to small companies.Last I heard he had moved out of the Sandbach area and was involved in property.One thing i will say about Roger is that he knew his stuff plus a cracking lad to get along with.
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Roger Bettley also bought Fodens own work service vehicles ,thank you Trevor
DEANB:
HRS:
Good morning Dean,
Yes, you are right, the Daf 2300 is heading up Marlands hill towards the Civic Centre Southampton.
Before the Civic Centre was built there was a very large lake there, called, you got it, Marlands lake.
Still enjoy your postings but not very active, great N10 stuff, thanks to you both. HarveyThanks for confirming that Harvey. Not that many N series around probably due to the bonnet and length limits.
michel:
English one:Nice pic “michel”
tastrucker:
W.R.Hill & Sons GuyHello DEAN ,you always come up with the unexpected W R Hill ,that was a lovely little fleet from Pontes bury nr Shrewsbury . They did coal work with several GUYs mostly 6 wheelers .
They had Bedford TKs one was a Chinese 6 ,and a cut down Leyland Octopus 6x2 artic ,hauling coal out of S Wales ,any more Dean ? thank you very much TrevorThanks for the info Trevor. Dont think there are any more but you never know what might turn up.
moomooland:
ERF ‘B’ Series eight wheeler Reg No LVR 886P was powered by a Gardner 6LXB engine.Originally registered new to the Cooperative Wholesale Society in December 1975 it was purchased secondhand by J Barrett (Haulage) Ltd whose yard at the time was located off Chew Valley Road in Greenfield Saddleworth which is where this picture was taken in August 1986.
Parked behind it is an ex Watneys Brewery Scammell Trunker Reg No YNE 845M which later became ‘Pennine Tugmaster’ in the Barrett fleet.Thanks for the pic and info Paul,good stuff chap.
MANTRONIC:
Hey DEAN ,love the Caswell Borderer ,they had about 20 of them ,any more please ?
Lucas Leyland Cruiser would see them at Lucas Ystradgynlais ,thanx MTHeres one i posted earlier in the thread “MT”
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kenfig bill:
DEANB:
Hello Dean ,…well we do our best …! the old man reckons Mayers were based on the timber dock in Newport …and did a lot of that stuff …really appreciate the present S Wales scene …Hicks …P M Rees …cheers …lol …GeraintThanks for the info on Mayers Geraint.
I reckon your dad will remember this incident back in 1966.
Click on pages twice to read.
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kingswinford kit:
Hi ,i see that Hicks of Newport ,have a depot at Rotherwas Hereford ,regards Keith
Hello DEAN ,…and thank you for some more Caswells …tho old man reckons that some were based at Ebbw Vale as well as Llanfoist …he does not remember that incident back in 1966 as it was in N Wales …but anyway thanks from the both of us …and as we say enjoying the present scene from S Wales …Geraint
gingerfold:
“karl weiss”"cav551"I thought that the Mandator tractor unit had a five ton front axle at one time. Many makes of unit at the time were only plated for 15tons. Also wasn’t there something about narrow and wide track front axles? AEC certainly produced more than one beam shape and stub axle set up, the same as some vehicles had Girling brakes, some Lockheed and there was definitely an AEC C spring brake which found its way onto certain Leyland models.No pictures I’m afraid, but Alan Firmin had two Mammoth Minor units UKM 285 H and the other one was either OKN 946 or 947G driven I think by Norman Dadson. 285 was destroyed in an accident on the M6 in which the driver, Stuart was sadly killed sometime around 1978/9.
Hi I have a photo of one of the two Firmins AEC Mammoth Minors when new with the new bulk tipping trailer , I cant remember the drivers name.The standard Mandator front axle was indeed plated at 5 tons, and the unit was 15 tons gvw. It was the narrow track axle. the Mandator rigid drawbar model had a wider 6 tons rated axle with power steering, gvw 16 tons, 32 tons gross train weight. This power steering option and axle could be specified on the tractor unit. The Mammoth Minor had even lighter front axles, each plated at 4.5 tons. Until Leyland got their hands on AEC they were very accommodating in building to customers’ individual specifications.
Thanks for the information Graham.
windrush:
The S40 Foden tipper is almost certainly one of the Smith’s of Bletchingdon fleet, the reg number is an Oxfordshire one. I drove one of their ex Fodens (D704 PWL) for a couple of years, 1997-1999.Pete.
Thanks for the name Pete.
Buzzer:
Dean the GUY cattle truck looks like a N.B.TITE they had quite a few livestock lorries and I think they came from Dorset or Somerset but someone will know, BuzzerDone a little investigation and N.B.Tite were indeed from Cerne Abbas, Dorset and here is a picture of another one of there’s, JD
Plus one more., just B.Tite this time.
Good stuff Buzzer, thanks for the name and pics.
sm240:
hi Dean
I wanted to wish you a happy and peaceful Easter.
then I still wanted to thank you for the truck photos of the 70s and 80s.
I would like to see more photos of foreign trucks from the 70s and 80s.
Thank you so much !!!
still many wishes for a happy Easter
bye
MIMMO
colinwallace1:
The David Cooper Foden was from Mountsorrel (between Leicester and Loughborough.) Don’t remember them for lowloader work. Think they were tipper operators mainly.
Hello Colin, i think that pic was taken on the London/Brighton run so probably transporting an old truck ?
HRS:
The standard Mandator front axle was indeed plated at 5 tons, and the unit was 15 tons gvw. It was the narrow track axle. the Mandator rigid drawbar model had a wider 6 tons rated axle with power steering, gvw 16 tons, 32 tons gross train weight. This power steering option and axle could be specified on the tractor unit. The Mammoth Minor had even lighter front axles, each plated at 4.5 tons. Until Leyland got their hands on AEC they were very accommodating in building to customers’ individual specifications.Morning Gingerfold,
You have got my old brain cells going now. Back in the early 70’s I was asked if Volvo built a narrow track axled vehicle so it could oporate in the channel islands.
As I understood it AEC did.
MMD Flathouse quay Portsmouth were customers of mine and they were also interested, no we did’nt and I think things changed over there anyway, back to bed, Harvey
Thanks for your comments Harvey. They did build a narrow one for the Swiss market chap.
tastrucker:
Permatrans Mercedes. I think they were bought out by Swains of Stretton ?Hello DEAN ,yes Permatrans were bought out by Swains ,Trevor
Cheers Trevor.
Stanfield:
Roger Bettley was based in the Sandbach area and used to run his lorries on brick work then he got into tankers in fact at one time he was in partnership with Steve Gibson when they started BulkHaul. In 2003 he along with myself and 2 other lads bought a tanker company of our then boss called Direct North West Ltd which we ran from one of the premises he owned on the old Foden works site. He served his time at Fodens and when it closed he bought quite a bit of the property off them and he rented it out to small companies.Last I heard he had moved out of the Sandbach area and was involved in property.One thing i will say about Roger is that he knew his stuff plus a cracking lad to get along with.
Thanks for the info and photos “Stanfield”
gingerfold:
Morning Gingerfold,
You have got my old brain cells going now. Back in the early 70’s I was asked if Volvo built a narrow track axled vehicle so it could oporate in the channel islands.
As I understood it AEC did.
MMD Flathouse quay Portsmouth were customers of mine and they were also interested, no we did’nt and I think things changed over there anyway, back to bed, HarveyHello Harvey, In my Spillers Milling days the main plant bakery on Jersey was one of our customers and I used to visit several times a year (it was a tough job I had but someone had to do it!). The trailers we sent over unaccompanied were standard length and width but needed a special exemption permit, as the maximum width for permanent Jersey based vehicles and trailers was 7’6". From memory I think the maximum length was 30’. We had to show a P30 plate on the trailers, and also on the occasional rigid we sent over now and again. Exempted width and length goods vehicles and trailers had to travel on designated routes and roads. I believe that nothing has changed on Jersey and exemption permits are still needed.
Not 100% sure but i was told that trucks that arrive in Jersey now on the ferry have to tranship on the docks ■■? Can anyone confirm if that is right or wrong ? 
kenfig bill:
Hello DEAN ,…and thank you for some more Caswells …tho old man reckons that some were based at Ebbw Vale as well as Llanfoist …he does not remember that incident back in 1966 as it was in N Wales …but anyway thanks from the both of us …and as we say enjoying the present scene from S Wales …Geraint
Not 100% sure but i was told that trucks that arrive in Jersey now on the ferry have to tranship on the docks ■■? Can anyone confirm if that is right or wrong ?
not sure mate but having been there on holiday,(beautiful island) you wouldnt want to be driving their roads in a 44 tonner. 