Anyone know what the initials stand for on the F88. LEL ■■?
Not sure but i think this may be Harry Mason ■■
R.H.Roadstone Foden.
Trans-Oman Scania 142 from Poole.
Lester Brothers Octopus. Chris Webb do you know where they were from ■■
Heres one for you Welsh boy whos the Seddon belong to ■■?
Anyone recognise the Mercedes ■■? How the hell does he drive that with all that crap in the windscreen !!! 
Heres one for “Stickman” Drinkwater Sabey Foden.
Bonsall Seddon Atkinson. Anyone know where they were from ■■
Bassetts Atkinson Borderer. There is an article about Bassetts on page 179.
Album pics.(Not taken by me)
Glyn S John Atkinson from South Wales.
Still miss seeing Cadwalladers motors on the road. Posted a couple of articles about them on page 146.
Wynns Seddon Diesel.
Colin Vaines & Son Seddon Atkinson.
W.H.Malcolm Leyland.
Robsons of Carlisle Foden.
Meachers B series ERF from Southampton.
Who needs a Scammell Contractor when you can have a mighty Bedford TK ! 
Anyone recognise the Atkinson (Defender ?) loaded with bricks ■■?
Chiltonian Biscuits Bedford TM.
Hi all,
Thanks for more great welsh photos Dean.The sed Atki 400 is a similar colour scheme to Trevor Davies,though they were based at Llanwrda,Though Llangadog is very near there.Member EC14 is the man who,d know 100%.
Regards Andrew.
pete 359:
Hi all,
Thanks for more great welsh photos Dean.The sed Atki 400 is a similar colour scheme to Trevor Davies,though they were based at Llanwrda,Though Llangadog is very near there.Member EC14 is the man who,d know 100%.
Regards Andrew.
The SeddAtk 400 ,is Trevor Davies from Llanwrda ,he had a couple of them . They hauled out of Albion concrete ,Llangadog ,some where i have a pic of their Spanish Dodge KEP 412P ,had a couple of DAFs before the Scanias ,would see him at Western Soft woods Newbridge .
Hey DEAN cant wait for stuff from the 80s !!! .MT
Lester Brothers Octopus. Chris Webb do you know where they were from ■■
The only Lester brothers I remember were from Long Whatton near Loughborough,they ran buses way back but I’m not sure if they ever ran tankers.
Bonsall Seddon Atkinson. Anyone know where they were from ■■
Hi Dean,George Bonsall was from Sheffield.
Dean. The Carman MAN photo was taken in Stratford Upon-Avon. Bridge Street.
Looks like one of John T Howard’s from Grimsby - though I could well be wrong of course
Cheers Keith
kmills:
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Looks like one of John T Howard’s from Grimsby - though I could well be wrong of course
Cheers Keith
I think you are right Keith,it’s got the right “FU” Lincs Lindsey reg plate.
DEANB:
Some news chaps.Paul is working his way through some very old negatives that Mark Bailey has kindly given him. They are about 40 years old and were never
developed. Unfortunately the quality of pic will not be as good as normal due to how old they are and obviously they have deteriorated a bit
over the last 40 years. However they are still very good to view in my opinion and as such Paul has edited them in colour so you can
see the colour schemes and black and white. I have always liked black and white as i think they are more nostalgic. The main problem is
the colour is a bit hit and miss !
Second bit of news is that i have aquired alot of photos from the 60’s,70’s,80’s,and 90s that are from a collection. Alot are by the photographer
but he has also bought in alot from various other photographers. Therefore you may have seen some on facebook.They have all been copyrighted and if anyone wants any removed if they are their photo let me know and i will remove.
I will call these album pics.
Great news Dean! This thread is turning into a reputable archive of its very own! Cheers, Robert 
MANTRONIC:
Hey Dean and Paul ,you just spoil us Welsh lads ,the British Steel Atkinson Leader was based at the Orb steel plant in Newport ,the colours changed to blue after the steel industry was nationalised .
The Leaders followed on from 4X2 Atkinsons ,but my uncle can remember they had a ruck of Leyland Octopus
There were a number of photos of these 6x2 units published by Atkinson, but they do pre-date the Leader which wasn’t announced until October 1970 - the Leader was a heavier duty chassis, designed for 38 ton (not tonne!) operation, for the much anticipated weight increases which Andrew mentions below. This is a Mk.2 ‘Silver Knight Reat Steer’, designed for 32T operation (although some were plated at 36T), and had only the 220 Rolls and 6-speed ZF
pete 359:
Hi all,
Great photos as always gentlemen.Those late 1960’s six wheel units were a popular choice with many welsh steel hauliers,then the threatened weight increase never happened and nobody bought them until 1983 when we leapt from 32 tonnes on four axles to 38 on five or six.I think the green on the early B.S.C. Fleet was carried over from the old Steel Company Of Wales fleet ?
Regards Andrew.
Yes indeed, the weight increase that never was! Although many of the 6x2 tractors available in the mid-60s were spec’d to achieve 32T with an outer axle spread of less than, I think, 38’. Therefore companies who operated shorter trailers at top weight, such as BSC and Northern Ireland Trailers, could still run legally at the full 32T with a 30’ trailer, as opposed to 30T with a 4x2 tractor.
I have an ex-Northern Ireland Trailers ‘Rear Steer’ unit, big long thing with 12’ 6" (3.81m) wheelbase, but only plated at 32T, and the GVW of the tractor is only 18T across the three axles!
hello Dean
do you have any other photos of foreign trucks: (Saviem, Berliet, Pegaso, etc.)?
then I wanted to wish you a good weekend !!!
bye
MIMMO
MANTRONIC:
pete 359:
Hi all,
Thanks for more great welsh photos Dean.The sed Atki 400 is a similar colour scheme to Trevor Davies,though they were based at Llanwrda,Though Llangadog is very near there.Member EC14 is the man who,d know 100%.
Regards Andrew.The SeddAtk 400 ,is Trevor Davies from Llanwrda ,he had a couple of them . They hauled out of Albion concrete ,Llangadog ,some where i have a pic of their Spanish Dodge KEP 412P ,had a couple of DAFs before the Scanias ,would see him at Western Soft woods Newbridge .
Hey DEAN cant wait for stuff from the 80s !!! .MT
Hello MT …Trevor Davies also had a couple of Foden 4000 series …and Iveco 4 wheeler …fair play you know your stuff…mate …
DEAN …we.,.the old man that is …can only echo …the thought and words of others on this thread …for yourtime and effort ,for posting such amazing material …i mean yeah you spoil us Welsh lads rotten …
The old man particularly liked the Wynns Seddon 32/4 unit …he says it is fitted with a fire screen /whatever …and used on tank work …such as Monsanto Chemicals in Newport …and Coates based at Caerphilly …one of his buddies drove for Wynns at this time with a similar Seddon and that was bitumen out of the old furnacite plant near Aberdare .
DEAN ,…really looking forward to the next batch of Welsh pics …lol …Geraint
Trevor Davies ran a few Dodge Commandos 7.5 to 17 ton also Daf 1900 Volvo F6 4 wheel flats and a Dodge KT900 6 wheel flat
ianto:
Trevor Davies ran a few Dodge Commandos 7.5 to 17 ton also Daf 1900 Volvo F6 4 wheel flats and a Dodge KT900 6 wheel flat
Hi ianto ,he had a Atkinson Borderer GYF 151N ? ,always a very smart fleet .
Hey Geraint ,its the uncle who passes the info to me ,he and your Dad should really get together !!
Oh my days Dean ,you flag up Welsh shots and their is always interesting feedback,unc didnt know that Trevor Davies had a KT900 6 wheeler ,thanx MT
Hello MANTRONIC Trevor Davies Atkinson was sold at his closing down sale to his ex driver later transport manager nickname of SOOTY cant remember his proper name . Dont know where it is now Tevor Davies also in the early days ran a longwheel base Bedford TK tipper i think was ex Llandeilo Builders Merchants Phill Marks is first lorry with Trevor Davies who was also an agricultural merchant as well as haulage contractor
pete 359:
Hi all,
Thanks for more great welsh photos Dean.The sed Atki 400 is a similar colour scheme to Trevor Davies,though they were based at Llanwrda,Though Llangadog is very near there.Member EC14 is the man who,d know 100%.
Regards Andrew.
Thanks for the comments Andrew. 
MANTRONIC:
The SeddAtk 400 ,is Trevor Davies from Llanwrda ,he had a couple of them . They hauled out of Albion concrete ,Llangadog ,some where i have a pic of their Spanish Dodge KEP 412P ,had a couple of DAFs before the Scanias ,would see him at Western Soft woods Newbridge .
Hey DEAN cant wait for stuff from the 80s !!! .MT
Thanks for confirming what Andrew said “MT”. I reckon you should dig those photos out chap !!!
Chris Webb:
Lester Brothers Octopus. Chris Webb do you know where they were from ■■The only Lester brothers I remember were from Long Whatton near Loughborough,they ran buses way back but I’m not sure if they ever ran tankers.
Ok thanks Chris.
Chris Webb:
Bonsall Seddon Atkinson. Anyone know where they were from ■■Hi Dean,George Bonsall was from Sheffield.
jawwa:
Dean. The Carman MAN photo was taken in Stratford Upon-Avon. Bridge Street.
Thanks for that chap.
Chris Webb:
“kmills”
Looks like one of John T Howard’s from Grimsby - though I could well be wrong of course
Cheers KeithI think you are right Keith,it’s got the right “FU” Lincs Lindsey reg plate.
I agree with Chris i think you could be right Keith ! They definately run Mercedes.
ERF-NGC-European:
DEANB:
Some news chaps.Paul is working his way through some very old negatives that Mark Bailey has kindly given him. They are about 40 years old and were never
developed. Unfortunately the quality of pic will not be as good as normal due to how old they are and obviously they have deteriorated a bit
over the last 40 years. However they are still very good to view in my opinion and as such Paul has edited them in colour so you can
see the colour schemes and black and white. I have always liked black and white as i think they are more nostalgic. The main problem is
the colour is a bit hit and miss !Second bit of news is that i have aquired alot of photos from the 60’s,70’s,80’s,and 90s that are from a collection. Alot are by the photographer
but he has also bought in alot from various other photographers. Therefore you may have seen some on facebook.They have all been copyrighted and if anyone wants any removed if they are their photo let me know and i will remove.
I will call these album pics.Great news Dean! This thread is turning into a reputable archive of its very own! Cheers, Robert
240 Gardner:
“MANTRONIC”
Hey Dean and Paul ,you just spoil us Welsh lads ,the British Steel Atkinson Leader was based at the Orb steel plant in Newport ,the colours changed to blue after the steel industry was nationalised .
The Leaders followed on from 4X2 Atkinsons ,but my uncle can remember they had a ruck of Leyland Octopus.There were a number of photos of these 6x2 units published by Atkinson, but they do pre-date the Leader which wasn’t announced until October 1970 - the Leader was a heavier duty chassis, designed for 38 ton (not tonne!) operation, for the much anticipated weight increases which Andrew mentions below. This is a Mk.2 ‘Silver Knight Reat Steer’, designed for 32T operation (although some were plated at 36T), and had only the 220 Rolls and 6-speed ZF
“pete 359”
Hi all,
Great photos as always gentlemen.Those late 1960’s six wheel units were a popular choice with many welsh steel hauliers,then the threatened weight increase never happened and nobody bought them until 1983 when we leapt from 32 tonnes on four axles to 38 on five or six.I think the green on the early B.S.C. Fleet was carried over from the old Steel Company Of Wales fleet ?
Regards Andrew.Yes indeed, the weight increase that never was! Although many of the 6x2 tractors available in the mid-60s were spec’d to achieve 32T with an outer axle spread of less than, I think, 38’. Therefore companies who operated shorter trailers at top weight, such as BSC and Northern Ireland Trailers, could still run legally at the full 32T with a 30’ trailer, as opposed to 30T with a 4x2 tractor.
I have an ex-Northern Ireland Trailers ‘Rear Steer’ unit, big long thing with 12’ 6" (3.81m) wheelbase, but only plated at 32T, and the GVW of the tractor is only 18T across the three axles!
Thanks for the info on the Atkis Chris ,your definately the main man on those Atkinsons !
sm240:
hello Dean
do you have any other photos of foreign trucks: (Saviem, Berliet, Pegaso, etc.)?
then I wanted to wish you a good weekend !!!
bye
MIMMO
Will pop some on tomorrow Mimmo.
kenfig bill:
Hello MT …Trevor Davies also had a couple of Foden 4000 series …and Iveco 4 wheeler …fair play you know your stuff…mate …
DEAN …we.,.the old man that is …can only echo …the thought and words of others on this thread …for yourtime and effort ,for posting such amazing material …i mean yeah you spoil us Welsh lads rotten …
The old man particularly liked the Wynns Seddon 32/4 unit …he says it is fitted with a fire screen /whatever …and used on tank work …such as Monsanto Chemicals in Newport …and Coates based at Caerphilly …one of his buddies drove for Wynns at this time with a similar Seddon and that was bitumen out of the old furnacite plant near Aberdare .
DEAN ,…really looking forward to the next batch of Welsh pics …lol …Geraint
Hello Geraint ,we are lucky that Paul shared his pics with us. Plus if it was not for him we would not have seen any of Mark’s pics as the only person who had ever seen
them was Paul.
Now heres one for dad as he really does know his stuff along with all the other Welsh chaps who comment on here !
Your dad mentioned that Wynns Seddon were used on tanker work. Our tanker specialist Chris Webb will know about the fire screen ■■ I dont know if its something to
do with the exhaust on tankers being at the front of the unit under the bumper ?
ianto:
Trevor Davies ran a few Dodge Commandos 7.5 to 17 ton also Daf 1900 Volvo F6 4 wheel flats and a Dodge KT900 6 wheel flat
Thanks for your comments Ian.
MANTRONIC:
ianto:
Trevor Davies ran a few Dodge Commandos 7.5 to 17 ton also Daf 1900 Volvo F6 4 wheel flats and a Dodge KT900 6 wheel flatHi ianto ,he had a Atkinson Borderer GYF 151N ? ,always a very smart fleet .
Hey Geraint ,its the uncle who passes the info to me ,he and your Dad should really get together !!
Oh my days Dean ,you flag up Welsh shots and their is always interesting feedback,unc didnt know that Trevor Davies had a KT900 6 wheeler ,thanx MT
ianto:
Hello MANTRONIC Trevor Davies Atkinson was sold at his closing down sale to his ex driver later transport manager nickname of SOOTY cant remember his proper name . Dont know where it is now Tevor Davies also in the early days ran a longwheel base Bedford TK tipper i think was ex Llandeilo Builders Merchants Phill Marks is first lorry with Trevor Davies who was also an agricultural merchant as well as haulage contractor
A lot of tankers, including those on powders, cement etc, had front mounted exhausts because pto driven blowers/pumps etc on the chassis meant there was no space for a conventional system. All ours at Tilcon had them at the front, and most had dents in them!
Pete.
We have had some cracking pics of Owens Transport on here chaps.
