DEANB:
Hoover Foden4
Blue Circle Cement Foden.
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Dawson Keith Scania.
2
A & C Nowell Volvo F86
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Anyone know the bus manufacturer ■■?
Metropolitan Camell Weyman body, not too sure on the spelling though
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I think the Hoover Foden might actually be one of Cadburys.
DEANB:
Hoover FodenBlue Circle Cement Foden.
Dawson Keith Scania.
A & C Nowell Volvo F86
Anyone know the bus manufacturer ■■?
Hi Dean, The bus manufacturer is Metro-Cammell-Weymann, who I believe were at Washwood Heath in Birmingham. MCW were a major bus body builder,
usually building bodywork on to chassis from Leyland, AEC, Guy, Daimler, etc. In the 1970s, MCW built a large number of Metro-Scania complete buses,
for Liverpool, London, and Manchester, double deckers and single deckers. The complete engine, transmission, and front and back wheels were sent over
from Sweden in a very short wheelbase chassis form, and then separated, and installed in to the body work to form a complete bus. The Leyland PD3 bus
on the left in the picture is fitted with a 72 seat MCW body, the Bristol VRL has a coach body by Eastern Coach Works of Lowestoft…ECW. I know Trucknet
is not a Bus Forum, but at least it answers Deans question. Regards, Ray Smyth.
I also think it could be a Cadbury Foden.
James Nuttall of Rochdale used to have a contract with Cadburys
They ran a few refrigerated trailers on the job and had these two trailers and tractor units painted up in contract livery. During 1995/6 James Nuttall (Transport) Ltd of Rochdale introduced these 12 ■■■■■■■ powered ERF EC14 6x2 tractor units into their fleet.
The picture above, taken in the depot at Rochdale in 1996, shows 12 ERF EC14 6x2 tractor units and trailers lined up for a photo shoot.
The first three in the line up are coupled to reefers, used on the Cadbury contract.
Come to think of it Dean i haven’t seen any of Jimmy Nuttalls motors in this thread yet which is quite surprising.
rigsby:
coomsey:
ianto:
I did know of a 1967 /1968 Bedford KM that was a 4 wheeler conversion to a 6 wheeler that had a i think a YORK 3rd axle conversion where the 3rd axle would lift a little for load transfer for more traction but did not lift clear for empty running. I thought Reviers were either single drive or double drive from the factoryI’m almost certain I’ll come unstuck here but I only remember 86s with axle lift
Consider yourself unstuck Coomsey , about 1968 I drove an 8 wheel lightweight Scammel , single drive with lift axle . I was doing 2 trips a day over the Cat and Fiddle and the lift axle was useless , the back end swung all over the place on all those bends and corners coming back empty . Dave
I knew from the start I’d get nailed Dave. I only recall 86s don’t remember Scania but seem to think there wasn’t many rigids in the 70s. So who was first us or Nordics? A pic of the Scammel would be good. Cheers Paul
Not seen many Calor ERF’s in that livery did they change it to red about that time?
I know one thing though Calor had plenty of ERF’s in their huge fleet over the years.
moomooland:
2Definitely a Cadbury Foden.James Nuttall of Rochdale used to have a contract with Cadburys
0They ran a few refrigerated trailers on the job and had these two painted up in contract livery.
1During 1995/6 James Nuttall (Transport) Ltd of Rochdale introduced these 12 ■■■■■■■ powered ERF EC14 4x2 tractor units into their fleet.
The picture above, taken in the depot at Rochdale in 1996, shows 12 ERF EC14 4x2 tractor units and trailers lined up for a photo shoot.
The first three in the line up are coupled to reefers, used on the Cadbury contract.Come to think of it Dean i haven’t seen any of Jimmy Nuttalls motors in this thread yet which is quite surprising.
Those ERF’s look fantastic. I don’t remember ever seeing them on the road. Has anybody noticed the first one in the line up has a different roof and air kit? Olympic? Wonder why one was spec’d different to the rest.
Frankydobo:
This will be an RAF Wagon and Drag Dean, they had the yellow stripe around their vehicles, Army usually Green sometimes with Black contours applied.
Franky.
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Hydrogen gas carrier Mammoth Major 6, a few of these were based at Weston on the Green, which was / is a RAF weather forecasting station. I believe that these became the last AECs in service with the RAF, apart from the mysterious nuclear warhead carriers, which were rumoured to still exist, “mothballed” at a certain RAF base.
Also, you said they are 4X2’s but the first one looks like a 6X2 to me? Sorry for being pedantic. [emoji53]
Frankydobo:
This will be an RAF Wagon and Drag Dean, they had the yellow stripe around their vehicles, Army usually Green sometimes with Black contours applied.Franky.
Thanks Franky, never knew that ! 
rigsby:
coomsey:
ianto:
I did know of a 1967 /1968 Bedford KM that was a 4 wheeler conversion to a 6 wheeler that had a i think a YORK 3rd axle conversion where the 3rd axle would lift a little for load transfer for more traction but did not lift clear for empty running. I thought Reviers were either single drive or double drive from the factoryI’m almost certain I’ll come unstuck here but I only remember 86s with axle lift
Consider yourself unstuck Coomsey , about 1968 I drove an 8 wheel lightweight Scammel , single drive with lift axle . I was doing 2 trips a day over the Cat and Fiddle and the lift axle was useless , the back end swung all over the place on all those bends and corners coming back empty . Dave
Thanks for your comments Dave.
oneillmartin:
was the lift axle on air that time
Anyone know ■■?
tonyj105:
DEANB:
Anyone know the bus manufacturer ■■?
Metropolitan Camell Weyman body, not too sure on the spelling though
Well done Tony.
Suedehead:
I think the Hoover Foden might actually be one of Cadburys.
I wonder if Hoover and Cadbury’s were ownedby the same larger company ? 
Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, The bus manufacturer is Metro-Cammell-Weymann, who I believe were at Washwood Heath in Birmingham. MCW were a major bus body builder,
usually building bodywork on to chassis from Leyland, AEC, Guy, Daimler, etc. In the 1970s, MCW built a large number of Metro-Scania complete buses,
for Liverpool, London, and Manchester, double deckers and single deckers. The complete engine, transmission, and front and back wheels were sent over
from Sweden in a very short wheelbase chassis form, and then separated, and installed in to the body work to form a complete bus. The Leyland PD3 bus
on the left in the picture is fitted with a 72 seat MCW body, the Bristol VRL has a coach body by Eastern Coach Works of Lowestoft…ECW. I know Trucknet
is not a Bus Forum, but at least it answers Deans question. Regards, Ray Smyth.
Very good Ray ! Did you drive them as you seem to know alot about them ?
moomooland:
Definitely a Cadbury Foden.
James Nuttall of Rochdale used to have a contract with Cadburys
They ran a few refrigerated trailers on the job and had these two painted up in contract livery.
During 1995/6 James Nuttall (Transport) Ltd of Rochdale introduced these 12 ■■■■■■■ powered ERF EC14 4x2 tractor units into their fleet.
The picture above, taken in the depot at Rochdale in 1996, shows 12 ERF EC14 4x2 tractor units and trailers lined up for a photo shoot.The first three in the line up are coupled to reefers, used on the Cadbury contract.
Come to think of it Dean i haven’t seen any of Jimmy Nuttalls motors in this thread yet which is quite surprising.
Good stuff Paul, see above answer about Cadburys/Hoover. Nuttall rings a bell i may have something on them.
I dont know if this Atki is a Ridham motor on hire to Nuttall’s or the other way around ■■
Click on page twice.
coomsey:
I knew from the start I’d get nailed Dave. I only recall 86s don’t remember Scania but seem to think there wasn’t many rigids in the 70s. So who was first us or Nordics? A pic of the Scammel would be good. Cheers Paul
I agree Paul ,think a bit of research is required ! 
moomooland:
4Not seen many Calor ERF’s in that livery did they change it to red about that time? I know one thing though Calor had plenty of ERF’s in their huge fleet over the years.
Great pics Paul. I dont think i have seen them in white before. There is a fella that worked for Calor Gas
that looks at this thread so hopefully he will explain more !
nomiS36:
Come to think of it Dean i haven’t seen any of Jimmy Nuttalls motors in this thread yet which is quite surprising.
Those ERF’s look fantastic. I don’t remember ever seeing them on the road. Has anybody noticed the first one in the line up has a different roof and air kit? Olympic? Wonder why one was spec’d different to the rest.
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Thanks for your input !
gingerfold:
Frankydobo:
This will be an RAF Wagon and Drag Dean, they had the yellow stripe around their vehicles, Army usually Green sometimes with Black contours applied.Franky.Hydrogen gas carrier Mammoth Major 6, a few of these were based at Weston on the Green, which was / is a RAF weather forecasting station. I believe that these became the last AECs in service with the RAF, apart from the mysterious nuclear warhead carriers, which were rumoured to still exist, “mothballed” at a certain RAF base.
Thanks for your comments Graham.
Grenham Volvo F10 low loader.
H.E.Dibble MAN
Army Crusader.
E.T.Morris & Sons Volvo F10
G.L.Saunders Foden.
nomiS36:
moomooland:
2Definitely a Cadbury Foden.James Nuttall of Rochdale used to have a contract with Cadburys
0They ran a few refrigerated trailers on the job and had these two painted up in contract livery.
1During 1995/6 James Nuttall (Transport) Ltd of Rochdale introduced these 12 ■■■■■■■ powered ERF EC14 4x2 tractor units into their fleet.
The picture above, taken in the depot at Rochdale in 1996, shows 12 ERF EC14 4x2 tractor units and trailers lined up for a photo shoot.
The first three in the line up are coupled to reefers, used on the Cadbury contract.Come to think of it Dean i haven’t seen any of Jimmy Nuttalls motors in this thread yet which is quite surprising.
Those ERF’s look fantastic. I don’t remember ever seeing them on the road. Has anybody noticed the first one in the line up has a different roof and air kit? Olympic? Wonder why one was spec’d different to the rest.
You’re right: the first one has the Olympic cab. Robert
I’d love to drive an ec14 even now. I drove a few ec11’s back in the day and always liked them, especially the sound of the ■■■■■■■■ A ■■■■■■■ powered Foden 8 wheeler with a stack came past me the other day, sounded superb!
I stand to be corrected Dean 
You were right it is one of Hoover’s S90 Foden tractor units.
Here’s another shot of Reg No ALL 187S.
Photograph courtesy of John Wakely
moomooland:
1PCH 628R registered new in September 1976.
0Another one of Webster’s Scammell Routeman’s was Reg No VCH 960Y which was for some reason was registered as new in August 1982, yet im pretty certain production of the Scammell Routeman had finished by this time.
Found this picture on another thread here on Trucknet which looks very much to me like it was taken by renown lorry photographer Peter J Davies at the Toddington Service area on the M1 in Bedfordshire.
Hi Dean
i would like a copy of this C webster routeman tanker on page 81 please Reg PCH 628R
I all ready have the one which is peter J Davies at toddington services as i have been looking through my photos
I am very pleased with the ones you have sent acroos to me over the moon
Regards Daz
RE Benfields, Benfields were the Saviem/Man dealers in Deddington Oxon I think they later became Berliet dealers too, Cliff
HRS:
Hi all, If I did not know better I would say that was my 240 estate in the car park, used it a lot back then.
However, no one has mentioned the 88 cutting up the round-a-bout with cars behind him.
moomooland:
I stand to be corrected DeanYou were right it is one of Hoover’s S90 Foden tractor units.
Here’s another shot of Reg No ALL 187S.
Photograph courtesy of John Wakely
The 2nd photo looks like a BRS contract unit with RLC fleet no. on the door. I know they had a Cadburys contract for a while so may have come back to cover the Hoover contract? Similar fleet no. on the Scania
