5thwheel:
A couple of SoM early brand new Albion’s,note even though brand new neither has a near side windscreen wiper.
Thats a cracking pic David. I wonder what year it became legal to have a window wiper on the passenger side as well ?
That’s an interesting question Dean,will see if I can find an answer.
David
When you do David, make sure you ask ‘when was it obligatory’, I think Dean’s apparent assertion that it was illegal at one time may come as a surprise to some.
Sorry, it’s one of those mornings. Just spent 2 hours trying to find a routier open on Friday night in Brittany. But some people think I don’t need a good night’s sleep after a good meal at the end of the week .
Spardo:
Liverpool docks. Came down with a full load of whisky from Dumbarton, 1966. Arrived late afternoon and told them I would be back in the morning, but they wanted it NOW!. I didn’t have change for the hired labour so took off my sheets and rolled them and went out onto the Dock Rd to look for a pub. Found one with the World Cup on the telly so settled down with my pint to watch the match then returned to the bond to give them the fiver and collect the wagon, it was empty and, watched by some knackered dockers (all handball of course) I lifted my sheets back on, made them secure and drove away. Don’t know who won the match but RESULT!!
Only once did I deliver to Liverpool.1969ish, a load of nails in hessian sacks, no pallets. Five dockers stood round the fire. One forklift and a stack of pallets. The forkie moved the pallets to the side of trailer, and went back to the fire. I asked for help to unload, it was refused. They watched me unload every bag by hand, onto the pallets. 800 bags with nails sticking out all round. Trousers (and skin) in shreds and hands red raw when I’d finished, and of course I had to jump on and off the trailer to move the bags to the edge. And I still cannot understand how those five men could just stand and watch me do it.
I went to Liverpool Docks twice that day - first and last!
5thwheel:
A couple of SoM early brand new Albion’s,note even though brand new neither has a near side windscreen wiper.
Thats a cracking pic David. I wonder what year it became legal to have a window wiper on the passenger side as well ?
That’s an interesting question Dean,will see if I can find an answer.
David
When you do David, make sure you ask ‘when was it obligatory’, I think Dean’s apparent assertion that it was illegal at one time may come as a surprise to some.
Sorry, it’s one of those mornings. Just spent 2 hours trying to find a routier open on Friday night in Brittany. But some people think I don’t need a good night’s sleep after a good meal at the end of the week .
We were invited out for a lunch yesterday which is unusual for me,dont “do” lunch,after getting home around 3.00 pm,out like a light for over an hour,a couple of shared bottles of Fresco had nothing to do with it of course!
Only once did I deliver to Liverpool.1969ish, a load of nails in hessian sacks, no pallets. Five dockers stood round the fire. One forklift and a stack of pallets. The forkie moved the pallets to the side of trailer, and went back to the fire. I asked for help to unload, it was refused. They watched me unload every bag by hand, onto the pallets. 800 bags with nails sticking out all round. Trousers (and skin) in shreds and hands red raw when I’d finished, and of course I had to jump on and off the trailer to move the bags to the edge. And I still cannot understand how those five men could just stand and watch me do it.
I went to Liverpool Docks twice that day - first and last!
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That little tale mirrored my experience exactly. I was only a young lad still learning, a load of hides (stinking but in individual plastic bags), they were on pallets and there was a fork lift on the job. The FL lifted a pallet on the flat trailer and naively I thought the rest of the pallets would follow…not so…the tossers stood round the fire and told me to strip the pallets because…“we want 'em back” They wanted em back for fuel for their fire.
Bar stewards.
Only once did I deliver to Liverpool.1969ish, a load of nails in hessian sacks, no pallets. Five dockers stood round the fire. One forklift and a stack of pallets. The forkie moved the pallets to the side of trailer, and went back to the fire. I asked for help to unload, it was refused. They watched me unload every bag by hand, onto the pallets. 800 bags with nails sticking out all round. Trousers (and skin) in shreds and hands red raw when I’d finished, and of course I had to jump on and off the trailer to move the bags to the edge. And I still cannot understand how those five men could just stand and watch me do it.
I went to Liverpool Docks twice that day - first and last!
That little tale mirrored my experience exactly. I was only a young lad still learning, a load of hides (stinking but in individual plastic bags), they were on pallets and there was a fork lift on the job. The FL lifted a pallet on the flat trailer and naively I thought the rest of the pallets would follow…not so…the tossers stood round the fire and told me to strip the pallets because…“we want 'em back” They wanted em back for fuel for their fire.
Bar stewards.
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Never mind Brian , I took revenge for us many times . w
We took hydrated lime in 56lb bags all hand ball and of course the dockers allocated an area for us to stack them . I would have 600 bags at a time , so a neat wall was built at the front and then the rest were chucked behind it . Chuck a few , burst a few , cover them up , rinse and repeat , knowing that the dockers had to stack them into big nets to be hoisted onto the ship . They never seemed to learn , always "Put them there drive " and wander off .
6 May 1985
Bourton Road
Much Wenlock
Shrops, Eng,
Not sure whether rollers are allowed on here, but some folk seem to like machinery of all sorts…
Its a John Fowler of Leeds , Works No 17563, and thats all i have been able to dig up about it.
If anyone can add anything, ,■■
Hi pyewacket947v, thanks for the pics quote from page 1 post 1 “if it has driven wheels and carries or pulls a load, let us see it”
Snapped this at Speech House Rally 2016 originally from the States.
Oily
Pyewacket947V:
6 May 1985
Bourton Road
Much Wenlock
Shrops, Eng,
Not sure whether rollers are allowed on here, but some folk seem to like machinery of all sorts…
Its a John Fowler of Leeds , Works No 17563, and thats all i have been able to dig up about it.
If anyone can add anything, ,■■
TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Past Present And In Between In Pictures .Page 625. Fowler Steam Road
Roller . Wednesday,11th February,2020. VALKYRIE
John Fowler & Company,Leeds,Ltd,sold 31 Fowler steam road rollers in 1929 including No.17563,EP 4190
QV photographs below. Photographs of this steam road roller appear to be few and far between,hence
that’s why I can’t find any more photographs of it (other than Pyewacket947V’s photos) on the Internet.
Its probably been in store for years and years and so almost certainly will not have attended any steam
and vintage vehicle rallies.
1.
Fowler DNA,1-Cylinder,8-Ton,Steam Road Roller,W-E-C No.17563,EP 4190,Montgomery,2-1929.Preserved,currently located at Telford. TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,625.3-2020.Pyewacket947V 3#
Here are two photographs of another Fowler DNA Steam Road Roller,No.17560,just two numbers away
from 17563! ,which was originally operated by Tom Kitchener,Road Rolling Contractor,Potton,
Bedfordshire.Its last commercial road rolling job was in 1957 working on the A1 Biggleswade Bypass.
Reg Saunders,of Stotfold,Bedfordshire,bought No.17560 in 1961 for £75 and was the first steam road
vehicle to become part of the Saunders Steam Collection
Fowler DNA,1-Cylinder,5 NHP,10-Ton,Steam Road Roller,W-E-C No.17560,TM 4782,Bedford,4-1929.Owned by the Saunders Steam Collection. TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,625.3-2020.Steam-Up.Co.UK 3#
oiltreader:
Hi pyewacket947v, thanks for the pics quote from page 1 post 1 “if it has driven wheels and carries or pulls a load, let us see it”
Snapped this at Speech House Rally 2016 originally from the States.
Oily
Thanks for that Oily, Those American steam tractors sure had a imposing look about them.
pyewacket947
Pyewacket947V:
6 May 1985
Bourton Road
Much Wenlock
Shrops, Eng,
Not sure whether rollers are allowed on here, but some folk seem to like machinery of all sorts…
Its a John Fowler of Leeds , Works No 17563, and thats all i have been able to dig up about it.
If anyone can add anything, ,■■
TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Past Present And In Between In Pictures .Page 625. Fowler Steam Road
Roller . Wednesday,11th February,2020. VALKYRIE
John Fowler & Company,Leeds,Ltd,sold 31 Fowler steam road rollers in 1929 including No.17563,EP 4190
QV photographs below. Photographs of this steam road roller appear to be few and far between,hence
that’s why I can’t find any more photographs of it (other than Pyewacket947V’s photos) on the Internet.
Its probably been in store for years and years and so almost certainly will not have attended any steam
and vintage vehicle rallies.
1.
Fowler DNA,1-Cylinder,8-Ton,Steam Road Roller,W-E-C No.17563,EP 4190,Montgomery,2-1929.Preserved,currently located at Telford. TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,625.3-2020.Pyewacket947V 3#
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Fowler DNA,1-Cylinder,8-Ton,Steam Road Roller,W-E-C No.17563,EP 4190,Montgomery,2-1929.Preserved,currently located at Telford. TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,625.3-2020.Pyewacket947V 6#
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Here are two photographs of another Fowler DNA Steam Road Roller,No.17560,just two numbers away
from 17563! ,which was originally operated by Tom Kitchener,Road Rolling Contractor,Potton,
Bedfordshire.Its last commercial road rolling job was in 1957 working on the A1 Biggleswade Bypass.
Reg Saunders,of Stotfold,Bedfordshire,bought No.17560 in 1961 for £75 and was the first steam road
vehicle to become part of the Saunders Steam Collection
Fowler DNA,1-Cylinder,5 NHP,10-Ton,Steam Road Roller,W-E-C No.17560,TM 4782,Bedford,4-1929.Owned by the Saunders Steam Collection. TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,625.3-2020.Steam-Up.Co.UK 3#
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Fowler DNA,1-Cylinder,5 NHP,10-Ton,Steam Road Roller,W-E-C No.17560,TM 4782,Bedford,4-1929.Owned by the Saunders Steam Collection. TNUK,OTL-PP&IBIP,625.3-2020.Steam-Up.Co.UK 6#
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Thanks for all that info Valkyrie…very interesting…
17563 is certainly elusive…
The Telford location would make sense being a short distance from Much Wenlock.
Cheers pyewacket947
Just spent 2 hours trying to find a routier open on Friday night in Brittany. But some people think I don’t need a good night’s sleep after a good meal at the end of the week . 
