Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

Retired Old ■■■■:

tyneside:

gingerfold:

m.a.n rules:
is it a mandator ?

Not with that gear lever and knob. Looks more like a Leyland.

Is it not an Albion with ergo cab. Possibly a tipper. Think that is a pto lever on the floor

Tyneside

The gear lever/knob and the steering wheel boss say it’s a Leyland.

Definitely.

As far as I recall, bearing in mind I’ve got the memory of a Jack Russell, the only motor I drove with a ratchet brake, was a S21. I had a H reg LAD reiver n a J reg ergo reiver n only recall brake on the binnacle■■?
I drove a N reg Bison for a week with the cab in the photo

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I had the exact same in a R reg Octopus, the same company bought a new W reg Octopus ( talk about brand loyalty after the hell they went through with the engines in the R regs ) with the brown trim. But of course I’ll stand correcting. Cheers Coomsey

Boatchaser:

Dirty Dan:
Hi boys. Here are some pics from my trip to Finland last week.

Danne

Can I ask you a question , I live in Calgary ( last 12 yrs ) and over here they leave their motors running all nite when its cold . I,m guessing you’re winters can get as cold as ours what do you do , I,m guessing as well with most motors being bonnet types they don’t hear the engine running, but in Europe most are seating on top of the engine so the noise would get a bit much

Hi! Well i only have my motor running when its colder then -15c and sure you feel the engine but not to mutch.

Danne

Froggy55:

Dirty Dan:
Hi boys. Here are some pics from my trip to Finland last week.

Danne

Interesting. The Sisu on Pic n°3 seems to have its last axle lifted and driven, looking at the hub. Do you confirm?

Hi Froggy. Sisu have had lift drives for years i belive.

Danne

oiltreader:
Hi coomsey, cheers for the pics :smiley:. I follow John Wakely’s postings on flickr and it is a 1980 snap of a Leyland tipper.
Oily

we had a 66 albion clydesdale ergo artic that had the same shape of gearstick for its 6 speed box ,

tony

coomsey:
As far as I recall, bearing in mind I’ve got the memory of a Jack Russell, the only motor I drove with a ratchet brake, was a S21. I had a H reg LAD reiver n a J reg ergo reiver n only recall brake on the binnacle■■?
I drove a N reg Bison for a week with the cab in the photo

I had the exact same in a R reg Octopus, the same company bought a new W reg Octopus ( talk about brand loyalty after the hell they went through with the engines in the R regs ) with the brown trim. But of course I’ll stand correcting. Cheers Coomsey

The Leylands had several upgrades through the 70’s and both the Bisons and Octopus ended up a bit posher like the last pic i posted above
and that was for a 1979 V reg Leyland Octopus mark 2. Therefore anything in the 1980’s would have been like pic 3, not pics 1 or 2.

tyneside:
Not a waggon but it would have made for an interesting drive.

Tyneside

Thats a quality pic “tyneside” :smiley:

Is that a Morris as i seem to remember it was also sold under another badge/make ?

I had an uncle when i was a kid who had the saloon version and from memory they were a pretty decent car.

I cant ever remember seeing an estate version but i reckon that looks very smart as an estate.Were they fairly common
as an estate or rare ■■

I “think” i read somewhere that a company was still building them in India until not that long ago.

morris oxf.jpg

morris oxf1.jpg

DEANB:

tyneside:
Not a waggon but it would have made for an interesting drive.

Tyneside

Thats a quality pic “tyneside” :smiley:

Is that a Morris as i seem to remember it was also sold under another badge/make ?

I had an uncle when i was a kid who had the saloon version and from memory they were a pretty decent car.

I cant ever remember seeing an estate version but i reckon that looks very smart as an estate.Were they fairly common
as an estate or rare ■■

I “think” i read somewhere that a company was still building them in India until not that long ago.

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BMC made these under a variety of badges. The Morris Oxford and the Austin Cambridge both came in saloon or estate versions (and to answer your question the estates were probably the most common we had then). The posher versions were the Wolseley 16/60, the Van den Plas with the 4-ltr RR engine and the Riley. Apart from the Van den Plas I think they all shared versions of the basic BMC ‘B’ engine - someone’ll put me right there. They were nice solid family cars for their time. We wouldn’t put up with the unreliability nowadays but then everything else was much less reliable then. I ran an Morris Oxford estate which I pulled a caravan with, a Wolseley 16/60 and an Austin Cambridge saloon which I bought cheaply one Spring and the clutch went; so as it had a new battery I drove it without a clutch for the rest of Summer before flogging it off cheap and buying another old banger.

As for the Indian version: you’re thinking of the older version (shaped like a giant Morris Minor). The tooling etc were all shipped out to India where they were made under the flag of Hindustani Ambassador. There were millions of them when I last went to India. They made Bedford TJs too. Robert

ERF-NGC-European:

DEANB:

tyneside:
Not a waggon but it would have made for an interesting drive.

Tyneside

Thats a quality pic “tyneside” :smiley:

Is that a Morris as i seem to remember it was also sold under another badge/make ?

I had an uncle when i was a kid who had the saloon version and from memory they were a pretty decent car.

I cant ever remember seeing an estate version but i reckon that looks very smart as an estate.Were they fairly common
as an estate or rare ■■

I “think” i read somewhere that a company was still building them in India until not that long ago.

1

0

BMC made these under a variety of badges. The Morris Oxford and the Austin Cambridge both came in saloon or estate versions (and to answer your question the estates were probably the most common we hadt then). The posher versions were the Wolseley 16/60, the Van den Plas with the 4-ltr RR engine and the Riley. Apart from the Van den Plas I think they all shared versions of the basic BMC ‘B’ engine - someone’ll put me right there. They were nice solid family cars for their time. We wouldn’t put up with the unreliability nowadays but then everything else was much less reliable then. I ran an Morris Oxford estate which I pulled a caravan with, a Wolseley 16/60 and an Austin Cambridge saloon which I bought cheaply one Spring and the clutch went; so as it had a new battery I drove it without a clutch for the rest of Summer before flogging it off cheap and buying another old banger.

As for the Indian version: you’re thinking of the older version (shaped like a giant Morris Minor). The tooling etc were all shipped out to India where they were made under the flag of Hindustani Ambassador. There were millions of them when I last went to India. They made Bedford TJs too. Robert

I remember my Dad had an Austin Cambridge with Vanden Plas bodywork but the BMC engine. Reg was 884 TBB and he bought second hand about 1962 / 63.

Tyneside

DEANB:

coomsey:
As far as I recall, bearing in mind I’ve got the memory of a Jack Russell, the only motor I drove with a ratchet brake, was a S21. I had a H reg LAD reiver n a J reg ergo reiver n only recall brake on the binnacle■■?
I drove a N reg Bison for a week with the cab in the photo
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I had the exact same in a R reg Octopus, the same company bought a new W reg Octopus ( talk about brand loyalty after the hell they went through with the engines in the R regs ) with the brown trim. But of course I’ll stand correcting. Cheers Coomsey

The Leylands had several upgrades through the 70’s and both the Bisons and Octopus ended up a bit posher like the last pic i posted above
and that was for a 1979 V reg Leyland Octopus mark 2. Therefore anything in the 1980’s would have been like pic 3, not pics 1 or 2.

0

IIRC The early Albion’s with the ergo cab ( E, F, G reg ) had a ratchet handbrake and the dead man on the binnacle much. The LAD cab had the same set up with the dead man on the LHS of the steering column.
When the new Reivers were introduced (BMC type cab) the ratchet handbrake was replaced by the spring air brakes. We also had a Leyland Bear new on an L reg that had the spring brakes.

Tyneside

I read it as a photo taken in 1980 not a 1980 vehicle … but i could be wrong . It looks like an early ergo

The early Ergos mirrors were a pain in the bum . Brackets mounted on the pillar which wobbled about until the brackets broke and there was nowhere to fit a steadying bracket .

Re the John Wakely photo I have edited my post to read 1980 snap of Leyland tipper.

I had from new in 1967 an AEC Mercury Ergo with similar cab, dead man by he instrument binnacle. The brain is short circuiting a bit but if I remember rightly it was 5 speed, 5th giving an overdrive type feel, somebody more versed will put me right there. I never got involved in the serious mechanical maintenance. Did my wheel changing(punctures) carried a few basic tools for the likes of replacing fuel injector pipes(PerkinsR6) etc, greased the fixed turntable(not a 5th wheel type) a bit o wire brushing to exposed to the elements battery terminals, spare bulbs etc. etc. that was it.
Oily

tyneside:

ERF-NGC-European:

DEANB:

tyneside:
Not a waggon but it would have made for an interesting drive.

Tyneside

Thats a quality pic “tyneside” :smiley:

Is that a Morris as i seem to remember it was also sold under another badge/make ?

I had an uncle when i was a kid who had the saloon version and from memory they were a pretty decent car.

I cant ever remember seeing an estate version but i reckon that looks very smart as an estate.Were they fairly common
as an estate or rare ■■

I “think” i read somewhere that a company was still building them in India until not that long ago.

1

0

BMC made these under a variety of badges. The Morris Oxford and the Austin Cambridge both came in saloon or estate versions (and to answer your question the estates were probably the most common we hadt then). The posher versions were the Wolseley 16/60, the Van den Plas with the 4-ltr RR engine and the Riley. Apart from the Van den Plas I think they all shared versions of the basic BMC ‘B’ engine - someone’ll put me right there. They were nice solid family cars for their time. We wouldn’t put up with the unreliability nowadays but then everything else was much less reliable then. I ran an Morris Oxford estate which I pulled a caravan with, a Wolseley 16/60 and an Austin Cambridge saloon which I bought cheaply one Spring and the clutch went; so as it had a new battery I drove it without a clutch for the rest of Summer before flogging it off cheap and buying another old banger.

As for the Indian version: you’re thinking of the older version (shaped like a giant Morris Minor). The tooling etc were all shipped out to India where they were made under the flag of Hindustani Ambassador. There were millions of them when I last went to India. They made Bedford TJs too. Robert

I remember my Dad had an Austin Cambridge with Vanden Plas bodywork but the BMC engine. Reg was 884 TBB and he bought second hand about 1962 / 63.

Tyneside

Hi tyneside, working out of Cowley 62 to 68 and never came across a Vanden Plas Cambridge, carted a few 4 litre Vanden Plas Princesses(Rolls engine) and the rarer 1100 Vanden Plas.
Oily

Thanks to coomsey, Buzzer, pyewacket947v, DEANB, Chris Webb and tyneside for the pics :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: and the craic’s going well :smiley: .

Right then coomsey this’ll be a familiar marque, thanks to John Wakely and his quote

"1973 Foden 8 wheel tipper 1982.
A badly lit and faded shot of a real bruiser…
This Hertfordshire registered 1973 Foden 8 wheel tipper was again spotted at St James Road lorry park Croydon "

My first two cars were an Austin A60 saloon (7134 DP) and a Series Six Morris Oxford saloon (LJO 205G) which were purchased from the BMC dealership I worked for. The Vanden Plas with the rather poor built under licence Rolls engine (same as fitted to the Austin Champ) was a much larger vehicle similar to the six cylinder Austin Westminster/Wolsesley 6/110 etc. The estates were very common but available only in Austin and Morris form. Other similar vehicles were the Riley 4/72, MG Magnette (both fitted with twin SU carbs) and the Wolseley 16/60. Quite reliable, I had no issues with mine apart from when it wouldn’t start, then I just opened the boot and gave the SU electric fuel pump a knock to wake it up and all was well again! :wink:

The earlier Morris Oxford, sold in India as the Hindustan Ambassador, lasted for years. I know a local businessman who imported one and when asked about delivery replied that he would collect it from the docks and drive it up to Derbyshire. He only got part way up the M1 when the combination of cam and peg steering, cross ply tyres and a sidewind convinced him to abandon the idea and get it trailered the rest of the way! :laughing:

Pete.

oiltreader:
Thanks to coomsey, Buzzer, pyewacket947v, DEANB, Chris Webb and tyneside for the pics :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: and the craic’s going well :smiley: .

Right then coomsey this’ll be a familiar marque, thanks to John Wakely and his quote

"1973 Foden 8 wheel tipper 1982.
A badly lit and faded shot of a real bruiser…
This Hertfordshire registered 1973 Foden 8 wheel tipper was again spotted at St James Road lorry park Croydon "

Just how I like em Oily , working gals. P.S what a wonderful set of pics off John. Cheers Coomsey

1979 Octopus mark 2 cab from brochure.Totally different,better seat different dash layout and a grab handle at the base of the seat.
Best grab handle were the steering wheel Dean. They tell me if you use it for that now they’ll hang you :unamused:

600 up well done Oily