dave docwra:
pyewacket947v:
Somewhere near Newhaven on the A515 Ashbourne-Buxton road in the winter of 1969.
No idea why the Atki is on the wrong side of the road and approaching me.
Maybe the Bedford KM had expired.
Most of the telephone wires came down encased in frozen fog.I wonder if the Atki driver is helping the guy in the ditch…
Better eyes than mine Dave, I did spot him eventually. 
Hi Chris, thanks for the compliment, yes it had a Gardner LX 150 coupled to a David Brown 6 speed box and an Eaton 2 speed axle giving me about 52-53 mph It was a good puller and a very reliable economical wagon which I bought second hand from J.G. (Geof) Stamper at Penrith as a flat in which form I ran it for a couple of years before having it converted to a powder/ animal feed tanker by Carmichaels of Worcester in 1972. The tank was a two compartment affair that held 5-6 ton in the front and 8 to 9 ton in the rear very handy for farm deliveries. The tank came off an Albion Reiver operated by Pauls & Whites from their Avening, Glos mill.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
I think is an Armstrong built at the Elswick works in Newcastle. Can anyone confirm this ■■
Tyneside
That’s correct Tyneside its an Armstrong Saurer, Swiss Saurer wanted their commercials built in Britain under license and Armstrong Whitworths Scotswood Works built them, the first was shown at the 1931 Commercial Show. Conventional and Cab over layouts were built but some parts started to be produced and imported from France despite the Tyneside works wanting to assemble all the components. The Saurers were rugged and well built vehicles and they used early oil engines, air brakes and overdrives not bad for the 1930’s. Franky.
Here is a Tarmac Armstrong Saurer 7 Ton Dominant in production from 1932-34 for the princely sum of £1,750.00. The full range all had names such as the Active, Dynamic, Samson, Durable and Effective! Franky.
Chris Webb:
I did me fair share of sheeting and roping before tanker work David.
Me too Chris, before and after, but my tanker work was powders not liquids. On the money side I’m only going on my experience at K&M. I was paid an hour for every 50 miles I did, this in a high speed Foden on mainly motorway work, an extra hour on top of that as soon as we hit the N. Circuler and I think an hour and a half, to load and tip. That was real money.
At the same time my brother who had an artic flat at the same company, loads of handball, roping and sheeting and lots of docks work, was paid straight hours for his day’s work. Being that he was there before me and had tipped me the wink for the job, you can see that he was less than impressed. 
Never did liquids or car transporters, the big payers in strong union days, but that is just about all my hands didn’t touch in this industry, it was never about the money for me. I just had a hunger for the road. Which is the main reason now I am still doing it, albeit in a less taxing way but still doing 80,000 kms a year. Addiction I think they call it.
My dad drove a morris commercial tipper in the early 1950 s this was fitted with a sauyer diesel engine
my dad drove a morris commercial tipper in the early 1950 s about a six tonner it had a saurer diesel engine in it .this was on with the whitwick granite company whitwick leicestershire
Frankydobo:
Here is a Tarmac Armstrong Saurer 7 Ton Dominant in production from 1932-34 for the princely sum of £1,750.00. The full range all had names such as the Active, Dynamic, Samson, Durable and Effective! Franky.
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This truck has a very unusual transmission! Between the 2 rear axles can be seen a protruding hub which is, in fact, the only driving axle. Just as it was on some old graders a pinion system drives the power to each wheel in a case. I had a leaflet on its Swiss version, but can’t put a hand on it anymore.
Dirty Dan:
Hi boys. Here are some pics from my trip to Finland last week.Danne
Nice photos Dan,thanks.
How many steering axles on that new GKT Swedish trailer,any idea?
And what gross weight would the 9 axled Scania drawbar run at? 
Another couple of Armstrong Saurer’s from where i served my time on the spanners,these were a bit before my time though, just 
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Chris Webb:
Dirty Dan:
Hi boys. Here are some pics from my trip to Finland last week.Danne[/quot
Nice photos Dan,thanks.
How many steering axles on that new GKT Swedish trailer,any idea?
And what gross weight would the 9 axled Scania drawbar run at?
Hi chris! Well cant say but i think the 1st and 3rd and 4th steer. But not sure,sorry. But it can take 48pallets.
The Scania drawbar runs at 76000kg total weight so them finns have some serius trucks running. On some roads they evan have 2 standard 13.6 euro trailers hooked toghter with a dolly. Just like a roadtrain down under.
Frankydobo:
That’s correct Tyneside its an Armstrong Saurer, Swiss Saurer wanted their commercials built in Britain under license and Armstrong Whitworths Scotswood Works built them, the first was shown at the 1931 Commercial Show. Conventional and Cab over layouts were built but some parts started to be produced and imported from France despite the Tyneside works wanting to assemble all the components. The Saurers were rugged and well built vehicles and they used early oil engines, air brakes and overdrives not bad for the 1930’s. Franky.
I remember going to many fairs when I was in my short trousers and saw a lot of these motors.
Spardo:
dave docwra:
pyewacket947v:
Somewhere near Newhaven on the A515 Ashbourne-Buxton road in the winter of 1969.
No idea why the Atki is on the wrong side of the road and approaching me.
Maybe the Bedford KM had expired.
Most of the telephone wires came down encased in frozen fog.I wonder if the Atki driver is helping the guy in the ditch…
Better eyes than mine Dave, I did spot him eventually.
Could be he lost his trailer 
Dirty Dan:
Hi boys. Here are some pics from my trip to Finland last week.Danne
Can I ask you a question , I live in Calgary ( last 12 yrs ) and over here they leave their motors running all nite when its cold . I,m guessing you’re winters can get as cold as ours what do you do , I,m guessing as well with most motors being bonnet types they don’t hear the engine running, but in Europe most are seating on top of the engine so the noise would get a bit much
Dirty Dan:
Hi boys. Here are some pics from my trip to Finland last week.Danne
Interesting. The Sisu on Pic n°3 seems to have its last axle lifted and driven, looking at the hub. Do you confirm?
pyewacket947v:
Somewhere near Newhaven on the A515 Ashbourne-Buxton road in the winter of 1969.
No idea why the Atki is on the wrong side of the road and approaching me.
Maybe the Bedford KM had expired.
Most of the telephone wires came down encased in frozen fog.
Good pic “pyewacket947v” Thats proper snow.
I think the last time we had snow that deep down in Dorset would have been the 1960’s.
Heres one being warmed up !
