Briefly back to buses. First picture is of Worswick St Station Newcastle sometime in the 50s. Second one was taken from the same spot late 2017.
The building on the left is the Southern side of Pilgrim St. Fire Station.
The whole site including the magistrate courts and police station on the north side is closed waiting redevelopment.
Tyneside
Chris Webb:
Froggy55:
Interesting! What was the driving of the Mk III Mammoths like?They were like a lot of lorries in those days Froggy - noisy,slow and underpowered.But they kept going and earning,A E Evans was just one of many UK hauliers that kept old AECs running,like Rosser and Midway Haulage. If you got a MK3 with the 11 litre engine @150 bhp and 6-speed box it wasnāt too bad,but the 9.6 @ 125 bhp and a 5-speed box was very hard work. The tilt cab AECs had been on the road for three years and we were still running about in MK3s and MK5s.
Roughly what It thought; thanks! In 1982, I sometimes used to drive a Chausson bus similar to this one; powered by a 100 bhp Panhard diesel and fitted with a non-synchromesh 5-speed gearbox, it used to spot the slightest hill from very far away, as we say in French!
I forgot to put the link to Chausson buses ; sorry, itās in Dutch, but the pictures are good:
myntransportblog.com/2013/12/14 ⦠on-france/
Froggy55:
Chris Webb:
Froggy55:
Interesting! What was the driving of the Mk III Mammoths like?They were like a lot of lorries in those days Froggy - noisy,slow and underpowered.But they kept going and earning,A E Evans was just one of many UK hauliers that kept old AECs running,like Rosser and Midway Haulage. If you got a MK3 with the 11 litre engine @150 bhp and 6-speed box it wasnāt too bad,but the 9.6 @ 125 bhp and a 5-speed box was very hard work. The tilt cab AECs had been on the road for three years and we were still running about in MK3s and MK5s.
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Roughly what It thought; thanks! In 1982, I sometimes used to drive a Chausson bus similar to this one; powered by a 100 bhp Panhard diesel and fitted with a non-synchromesh 5-speed gearbox, it used to spot the slightest hill from very far away, as we say in French!
Ha ha Froggy,that would be hard work up to Mont Blanc or any of the Alpine passes. Cāest un tres jolie photo,merci.
Horseshoe Coaches, used to run coaches solely for schools and taking workers to the brick yards. About all they were any good for!
Thanks to Ray Smyth, Pennineman, Annmaclean, Chris Webb, DEANB, tyneside, Froggy55 and Kempston for the pics
good to see the old B&W snaps.
Oily .
Pristine Octopus.
Someone posted on here a couple of weeks ago about NEI International Combustion of Sinfin Lane Derby. Another couple of their old motors.
A Few Owdies, Owd McElvie/Agnew n Lithgow/A74 Beattock/Charlie Alex Cimbing Beattock,
Owdies London docks/ AF Guy/Austin Wilkie/And a luvly sight to Greet u on a cold n frosty morn LoL""
jmc jnr:
The Scotch was a good idea when 2 of you were sharing a Mk V cab on a cold night. One of our regular drivers made me put my smelly boots outside at night, and I always put them in a gas-mask case in the spare wheel in case he took off fast in the morning. I had learned not to hang them by their laces on the mirror arm. Nothing worse than wet, cold footwear. Who remembers the sliding arrangement of the door windows? The STOP flag indicating low air, and the lovely fat indicator switch. The last time I drove 2700 VF was in 1973 on beef deliveries in Germany. ā ā ā ā Doddington - are you out there? Jim.
2700 VF Fridged Freight MK5 Mammoth Major which pulled a trailer.I was int RAF at Feltwell Norfolk 1960-63 and used to thumb it home to Sheffield when I could.I was stood in Kingās Lynn one night on the A17 just past the A47 turn off and 2700 VF stopped for me.It was pulling a drag but no second man so I suppose I could have been him .Driver was dropping trailer off int Boston area first then away to Manchester to load so he said heād look out for me.I got a lift to Sleaford from Sutterton and sure enough 2700 VF turned up about half hour later so a lift to Sheffield for about 0200 to get a night service bus.I have the EFE model of 2700 VF and it brings back fond memories.Little did I know I would be driving MK5 AECs for A E Evans about 8 years later - Iām another who thinks the MK5s were the dogs bā¦s.
Ray Smyth:
Leyland600:
That looks to be a gey cockly milkstand oily, I think the churns (tins in ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā would be safer on the grund !!
Cheers, Leyland 600Hi Eddie, You called them āChurnsā, My Dad, seen here with Greenbanks Dairy lorry in the late 1930s,
called them āMilk Kitsā. Gerald 600 calls them āTinsā, and he typed it with a ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā accent !!![]()
Ray.
Yes Ray and in the milk house, stone floored with granite slab work tops which most farms had in olden days, there would be a milk separator, A Laval I think it was called, (this separated the cream from the milk) and also a handle cranked wooden barrel shaped tub on spindles, this was a butter churn and many a time as a wee boy I was set to turning that until the cream formed into butter, it seemed like an arm aching half a day but in reality more like half an hour Cheers
Oily
Chris Webb:
gingerfold:
Good photos Chris, looking forward to seeing the rest of them.What was the demise of Evans in the end?
Thanks Graham.
I left them in 1979 but kept in touch with my mates there.Some of their work was spot hire,the regular work was Staveley Chemicals,National Coal Board and Bitmac Ltd at Scunthorpe and Llanwern. The NCB refinery at Wath closed and the gas condensate we carried from the North Sea Gas plants on Spurn Head for refining at Wath was piped to Immingham across the Humber.The coking plants where we loaded crude benzene for refining were closing fast,there were dozens of them int North East,Midlands and South Wales,so that was more work lost.It was mostly middlemen who bought and sold on the spot market that kept them in work,mostly industrial solvents like toluene,xylene,white spirit and chemicals like acetone and MEK.BP at Saltend Hull asked them to replace the 6 8-leggers in there with artics but it never happened,I donāt know why,so that job finished mid 70s.
They eventually pulled the pin at Sheffield mid 80s,most vehicles sent down to Barking depot which closed a bit later.
I remember we tried to work a shift system whereby our outbased driver at Hull would load gas condensate at night and drop the tanks at John Foremanās yard at Hedon,and Sheffield lads would take them to Wath at night where another driver would tip them on days. There were several drivers who agreed to do this but the company wouldnāt agree to it. It seemed a good idea but there you are,a bit behind the times they were.
It was a good company to work for though,money was decent,no flying about and if you could put up with ringing in at 1700 for orders and no digs booked then it was ok.Sheffield was a handy place to get to ont log book and dodgy nights out were the norm.I remember my MK5 was over in Lancashire for two weeks doing local work out of Cadishead and Eastham and I was home in Sheffield every night,the wagon either at Belle Vue,Mottram,Hyde or Stockport where it was handy for a lift over Woodhead.You could always get the train when it snowedā¦
Thanks for the info Chris, so the demise was due to several factors, but the underlying theme seems to have been the demise of several chemical companies and reluctance by the owner to look for new business.
Retired Old ā ā ā ā :
Great āmilkā photos, bringing back many memories. Thanks, Oily.
This a cracker for you ROF, note the dropside extension platform.
Iāll give the milk a break for a while(thereās more), give a bit of space for the other cracking stuff thatās coming on.
Oily
Thanks to Kempston and CJA1 for the pics
Oily
For Kempston⦠on the esplanade at Brighton 2003 thanks to Shaun Ballisat.
oiltreader:
Retired Old ā ā ā ā :
Great āmilkā photos, bringing back many memories. Thanks, Oily.This a cracker for you ROF, note the dropside extension platform.
Iāll give the milk a break for a while(thereās more), give a bit of space for the other cracking stuff thatās coming on.
Oily
Thanks for that one, Oily. The chaps with sideboards made great use of them in that way. No such luxury for those with chains, though, they had to rely on good driving to get close alongside the stand. And there was always the danger of sinking into the grass verge in wet weather!
oiltreader:
Thanks to Lawrence Dunbar for the pic⦠Fochabers eh, the Spey valley and beyond, pure malt country, nice one
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Isle of Man firm.
Oily
JCK over here bought this ex Blowerās Transport ERF and liveried it for their 25th anniversary.Itās back int UK now.Photos taken at Heritage Museum Jurby.