rigsby:
Would the pd2 have had a preselect gear change ? i ask because in the early 50s my dad ran a coach business and they had a daimler coach with preselect gears . a chrome paddle about the size and shape of a semaphore indicator . i always thought that it might have been some kind of prototype . dave
PD2s on Walter Alexander and Sons were badged RBs, their 3 generation of Leyland engine deckers, R,RA,RB etc. they were a smashing machine to drive and that engine sung a song.
When I was at their Grangemouth depot they had old preselector geared Daimlers, and I mean old. last resort spares for service use. The selector was on a quadrant plate under the steering wheel, they had quirk of occasionally throwing the clutch pedal out back towards the seat and giving the left leg a bloody good jar, it stayed there solid until a fitter released it( the pedal not the leg 
), those with more knowledge than I can mebbe better explain, something to do with the fluid flywheel clutch operation.
Oily
Hi Oily, much has been written about Wilson Pre-Selector gearboxes in AECs and Diamatic / Wilson boxes in Daimlers and the habit of the “Change Speed Pedal” not a clutch flying back up and cracking the driver on the ankle or shin, I believe it was caused by not fully depressing the pedal when making a preselcted change. I have only ever driven an AEC Regent with preselector once but did not suffer any injury thus. As you say the Leyland PD2 and 3 were lovely buses to drive and when the Leyland 600 was set up properly could beat any London Transport AEC Regent RT type into a cocked hat especially where steep hills areare concerned. I was sorry to see my PD go but other models beckoned.
Cheers, Leyland 600
I never drove a PD2 but, we had several PD3’s at the “Northern” Jarrow depot. They were a great drive, and a lot faster than the old Guys.
My first driving job aged 21, doesn’t time fly? Regards Kev.
kevmac47:
I never drove a PD2 but, we had several PD3’s at the “Northern” Jarrow depot. They were a great drive, and a lot faster than the old Guys.
My first driving job aged 21, doesn’t time fly? Regards Kev.3210
Hi Kev, As you say time does fly when one is enjoying oneself, Your getting old like me you old bugger But still going strong Eh, Keep supping the malts, That’s what keeps me going, Im just enjoying a few Glenmorangies this very moment after a hard day arguing with the My good lady about the bloody dishwasher, It would appear that I switched it on too quick as there was room for another plate, So I said well my dear you would have forgot to switch it on anyway, 
Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
kevmac47:
I never drove a PD2 but, we had several PD3’s at the “Northern” Jarrow depot. They were a great drive, and a lot faster than the old Guys.
My first driving job aged 21, doesn’t time fly? Regards Kev.Hi Kev, As you say time does fly when one is enjoying oneself, Your getting old like me you old bugger
Your living dangerously Larry, pushing buttons in the kitchen AND arguing with the staff!! Unfortunately I’m still off the whiskey, 
thanks to my ongoing stomach trouble. March was the last time I tasted the Irish Ambrosia, in fact I haven’t even had a beer since August. Sadly it seems to be the answer to my problem at the moment. .
kevmac47:
Lawrence Dunbar:
kevmac47:
I never drove a PD2 but, we had several PD3’s at the “Northern” Jarrow depot. They were a great drive, and a lot faster than the old Guys.
My first driving job aged 21, doesn’t time fly? Regards Kev.6543Hi Kev, As you say time does fly when one is enjoying oneself, Your getting old like me you old bugger
Your living dangerously Larry, pushing buttons in the kitchen AND arguing with the staff!! Unfortunately I’m still off the whiskey,
Your going soft Larry!
Cut the plug off, and tell her to use the ‘retro’ dish washing system… 
Mr Dunbar mentions dishwashers,…yes…it’s recently been the cause of some “friction” at Maison GOM. .
Since her recent fall I have been promoted to light domestic duties 
…“have you emptied the dishwasher”? says she…I though SHE was the dishwasher, I didn’t know we had an electric one. She called me some terrible names. I knew we had things, fridge, washer etc. in cupboards in the kitchen but I always tried to keep away from that place.
Thanks to bumper, kevmac47, lurpak and Leyland600 for the pics 
Dingwall lorry park, airing out the trailer before next load of fish or shellfish for south and the continent somewhere.
Oily
sorry if seen before…could be parked in cavvy sq …swindon…hills that is…
Leyland600:
Hi Oily, much has been written about Wilson Pre-Selector gearboxes in AECs and Diamatic / Wilson boxes in Daimlers and the habit of the “Change Speed Pedal” not a clutch flying back up and cracking the driver on the ankle or shin, I believe it was caused by not fully depressing the pedal when making a preselcted change. I have only ever driven an AEC Regent with preselector once but did not suffer any injury thus. As you say the Leyland PD2 and 3 were lovely buses to drive and when the Leyland 600 was set up properly could beat any London Transport AEC Regent RT type into a cocked hat especially where steep hills areare concerned. I was sorry to see my PD go but other models beckoned.
Cheers, Leyland 600
Hi Leyland600, barked shins definitely from driver pedal operation, bit like Arkwright’s till (Open All Hours), a bit erratic if erring on the side of timidity
Had a look through a book I have and found the ones I mentioned, note the Stirlingshire reg letters for Alexanders Motor Services and also at that time Glasgow Corporation buses had reg letters BUS, being a Glasgow City reg mark, a bit o’ useless information 
Oily
PS Used to dread along with others finding that one of these was my allocated machine for the shift
Edit forgot to add my time Grangemouth was’57/'58ish, so the Daimlers were getting on a bit.
Thanks to dibbs for the pics
1988 and a workmanlike Merc in Armenia, formerly part of Soviet Republic.
Oily
oiltreader:
Thanks to bumper, kevmac47, lurpak and Leyland600 for the picsDingwall lorry park, airing out the trailer before next load of fish or shellfish for south and the continent somewhere.
Oily
Great photos, I drove part time after I retired for Macleans who are based at Dingwall, They have been taken over by a firm from Mexico recently, They have a depot at Seaton Burn, This is the motor I drove, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
0oiltreader:
Thanks to bumper, kevmac47, lurpak and Leyland600 for the picsDingwall lorry park, airing out the trailer before next load of fish or shellfish for south and the continent somewhere.
OilyGreat photos, I drove part time after I retired for Macleans who are based at Dingwall, They have been taken over by a firm from Mexico recently, They have a depot at Seaton Burn, This is the motor I drove, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry, cheers for the photo, good on you still having a go after “retiring”, MacLeans started 1974 in the Old Distillery Building, Dingwall, when I first arrived north to this area 1996, I bought electric storage rads off them at trade, they later moved to what is now HQ, still in Dingwall, but exclusively wholesale, they’ve gone from strength to strength and very much global and as you say now part of an even larger group, in Dingwall tomorrow so will try and get photos of then and now.
Cheers
Oily
oiltreader:
Lawrence Dunbar:
0oiltreader:
Thanks to bumper, kevmac47, lurpak and Leyland600 for the picsDingwall lorry park, airing out the trailer before next load of fish or shellfish for south and the continent somewhere.
OilyGreat photos, I drove part time after I retired for Macleans who are based at Dingwall, They have been taken over by a firm from Mexico recently, They have a depot at Seaton Burn, This is the motor I drove, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry, cheers for the photo, good on you still having a go after “retiring”, MacLeans started 1974 in the Old Distillery Building, Dingwall, when I first arrived north to this area 1996, I bought electric storage rads off them at trade, they later moved to what is now HQ, still in Dingwall, but exclusively wholesale, they’ve gone from strength to strength and very much global and as you say now part of an even larger group, in Dingwall tomorrow so will try and get photos of then and now.
Cheers
Oily
Thanks Oily,I look forward to seeing them,Regards Larry.
