Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

You may also recognise this part of loading/unloading.
oily

bma.finland:

SISU from finland thik it,s a R500, means there is aDXI (renault volvo) under the cab from renault. other engines could bee C13 orC15 in this modell. earlier MACK E12 OR 14 litre ■■■■■■■■ box FULLER. now SISU use M-B cab and driveline and called SISU POLAR.
(C13 C15 CATERPILLAR)

Looks like a lifting second steer axle on the R500 as well.

Here are a couple of shots of a SISU with a DAF cab operated by a Hungarian company.

This pic is in the public domain without explanation, any ideas what is going on??.
oily

THAT IS A BRIDGE MAINTENANCE RIG, IT LOWERS A MAN RIDER DOWN AND UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE ;FANTASTIC BIT OF KIT

steptoe:

bma.finland:
Looks like a lifting second steer axle on the R500 as well.

Here are a couple of shots of a SISU with a DAF cab operated by a Hungarian company.
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the second lift axle is whery common here usualy airsuspended. about the hungarian ones you get me whit trousers down.Have never heard or reading about that .either it,s homebuilt or :question: :question: .shorely not in finnland :exclamation:

Not just SISUs


bma.finland:

steptoe:

bma.finland:
Looks like a lifting second steer axle on the R500 as well.

Here are a couple of shots of a SISU with a DAF cab operated by a Hungarian company.
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the second lift axle is whery common here usualy airsuspended. about the hungarian ones you get me whit trousers down.Have never heard or reading about that .either it,s homebuilt or :question: :question: .shorely not in finnland :exclamation:

I agree with you I think its home made, if you look at the bumper, lower steps and chassis fittings its got to be an SM model. Probably fitted a DAF cab because of an accident or rot and a SISU cab would be hard come by in Hungary.

steptoe:

bma.finland:

steptoe:

bma.finland:
Looks like a lifting second steer axle on the R500 as well.

Here are a couple of shots of a SISU with a DAF cab operated by a Hungarian company.
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the second lift axle is whery common here usualy airsuspended. about the hungarian ones you get me whit trousers down.Have never heard or reading about that .either it,s homebuilt or :question: :question: .shorely not in finnland :exclamation:

I agree with you I think its home made, if you look at the bumper, lower steps and chassis fittings its got to be an SM model. Probably fitted a DAF cab because of an accident or rot and a SISU cab would be hard come by in Hungary.

i can,t remaind my of that they were exported to hungary, could be possible it get there thru estonia or russia thru secondhand market .last 20years new have been sold in small numbers 3 4 and 5axle in switzerland,norway and very few tru renault in france.then some couple to russia and estonia

Thanks again Oily. I was never at Helen Springs, apart from flashing by south on the Stuart Highway, and the tackle is a bit more modern than I was used to, but some things don’t change. Lining up to pass through the loading point for instance.

As to the 2nd picture, again a bit more modern that. End loading straight through the whole train. Double decking too. We had singles and no connections between the crates. All the loading was done through side doors. We drove across the ends of the loading ramps and stopped for each door.

Still trucks, still cows, still bulldust though. As I said, some things don’t change. :laughing:

Terberg Benschop are specialists, extra axles etc., see here terbergbenschop.nl/uk/tractors.php, no end of pics in their image gallery.
A couple from Joost J Bakker under CC licence.
oily

Another builder from Holland is Ginaf, one for sale here,


and one for the heavy stuff.

the axles on the volvo,s truckfing put on is from VTA they have don axle conversions from middle of 70,s.the configuration whit lift axel,s are sold ogiginal of volvo in scandinavia whit VTA applicatin.SCANIA;s simular are don by LAXO in sweden.Sisu manufactur even their own axel,s and it,s one or only whit drivin tandem wher you can lift boggie and shut off diving from tandem.

Spardo:
Thanks again Oily. I was never at Helen Springs, apart from flashing by south on the Stuart Highway, and the tackle is a bit more modern than I was used to, but some things don’t change. Lining up to pass through the loading point for instance.

As to the 2nd picture, again a bit more modern that. End loading straight through the whole train. Double decking too. We had singles and no connections between the crates. All the loading was done through side doors. We drove across the ends of the loading ramps and stopped for each door.

Still trucks, still cows, still bulldust though. As I said, some things don’t change. :laughing:

Side loading on a 1951 DiamondT outfit and a couple nearer your time perhaps.
oily

Various in the public domain.
oily

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oiltreader:
Side loading on a 1951 DiamondT outfit and a couple nearer your time perhaps.
oily

Yes, all three of those pictures demonstrate the normal configurations of road trains after the excesses of the early years when lots of trailers were pulled at very low speeds. Body (rigid) trucks pulling 3 trailers or artics pulling 2.

All of those have sleeper cabs, yes, even the Diamond T with the netting hammock on the front of the body. :unamused: :laughing:
As you spotted, the side loading doors on its bodies are clearly visible.

The Buntine Roadways Flintstone Mack must have arrived in the fleet just after I left. The only non-B motor we had was the R motor that Noel, the Boss, drove. The only rigid in the fleet was the B series one that I drove for a time. None of us had sleepers, even the Boss, this one would have been a sign of the future, and maybe the first.

The 3rd picture is a puzzle. The Foden 8 legger looks very much like a Co-Ord because of the red and white livery but I don’t remember them running cattle trains, they concentrated on freight, and what we would now call groupage freight. Noel Buntine I know still had an interest in that outfit when he started Buntine Roadways to run cattle trains and there was an overlap. Tanami Transport ran cattle trains in red livery but I think they came along later when the day of the Foden was over.

All 3 clearly show the cross bows over the top of the crates that I mentioned previously which we used to swing down to kick the cows out of the way before diving in to goad a ‘faller’ to its feet.

Again lots of interesting stuff, Oily, thanks again for stirring the grey cells. :smiley:

Spardo:

oiltreader:
Side loading on a 1951 DiamondT outfit and a couple nearer your time perhaps.
oily

Yes, all three of those pictures demonstrate the normal configurations of road trains after the excesses of the early years when lots of trailers were pulled at very low speeds. Body (rigid) trucks pulling 3 trailers or artics pulling 2.

All of those have sleeper cabs, yes, even the Diamond T with the netting hammock on the front of the body. :unamused: :laughing:
As you spotted, the side loading doors on its bodies are clearly visible. Look at the air conditioning

The Buntine Roadways Flintstone Mack must have arrived in the fleet just after I left. The only non-B motor we had was the R motor that Noel, the Boss, drove. The only rigid in the fleet was the B series one that I drove for a time. None of us had sleepers, even the Boss, this one would have been a sign of the future, and maybe the first.

The 3rd picture is a puzzle. The Foden 8 legger looks very much like a Co-Ord because of the red and white livery but I don’t remember them running cattle trains, they concentrated on freight, and what we would now call groupage freight. Noel Buntine I know still had an interest in that outfit when he started Buntine Roadways to run cattle trains and there was an overlap. Tanami Transport ran cattle trains in red livery but I think they came along later when the day of the Foden was over.

All 3 clearly show the cross bows over the top of the crates that I mentioned previously which we used to swing down to kick the cows out of the way before diving in to goad a ‘faller’ to its feet.

Again lots of interesting stuff, Oily, thanks again for stirring the grey cells. :smiley:

David you missed something so I fixed it :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
cheers Johnnie :wink:

sammyopisite:

Spardo:

oiltreader:
Side loading on a 1951 DiamondT outfit and a couple nearer your time perhaps.
oily

Yes, all three of those pictures demonstrate the normal configurations of road trains after the excesses of the early years when lots of trailers were pulled at very low speeds. Body (rigid) trucks pulling 3 trailers or artics pulling 2.

All of those have sleeper cabs, yes, even the Diamond T with the netting hammock on the front of the body. :unamused: :laughing:
As you spotted, the side loading doors on its bodies are clearly visible. Look at the air conditioning

The Buntine Roadways Flintstone Mack must have arrived in the fleet just after I left. The only non-B motor we had was the R motor that Noel, the Boss, drove. The only rigid in the fleet was the B series one that I drove for a time. None of us had sleepers, even the Boss, this one would have been a sign of the future, and maybe the first.

The 3rd picture is a puzzle. The Foden 8 legger looks very much like a Co-Ord because of the red and white livery but I don’t remember them running cattle trains, they concentrated on freight, and what we would now call groupage freight. Noel Buntine I know still had an interest in that outfit when he started Buntine Roadways to run cattle trains and there was an overlap. Tanami Transport ran cattle trains in red livery but I think they came along later when the day of the Foden was over.

All 3 clearly show the cross bows over the top of the crates that I mentioned previously which we used to swing down to kick the cows out of the way before diving in to goad a ‘faller’ to its feet.

Again lots of interesting stuff, Oily, thanks again for stirring the grey cells. :smiley:

David you missed something so I fixed it :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
cheers Johnnie :wink:

:laughing: :laughing: Oh yes, Johnnie, I missed that, no such luxury on the Mack, but maybe not a bad thing. You’d know all about it if a damned great bug blew in and smacked you in the gob. :open_mouth: :laughing:

Tractor units various.
oily

Freightliner at Lymn Bank.jpg

Back with bma in Finland.
oily


thank,s for the pic,s the red scania (KOFF) transporting my favorit drinking (BEER).
pic is the new SISU POLAR whit M-B tech.