DIG:
Buzzer:
BuzzerIs this quite an old photo Buzzer
Dig
Hi DIG, E172 CSO reg so ‘87’/'88 or later for the photo.
Oily
oiltreader:
DIG:
Buzzer:
BuzzerIs this quite an old photo Buzzer
Dig
Hi DIG, E172 CSO reg so ‘87’/'88 or later for the photo.
Oily[/quote
Thanks Oily and Buzzer no need to apologise what interested me was how the pipe was loaded ,this was how we did it in the 70s and early 80s here ,pyramiding the pipe is dangerous when loading and unloading and really needs 2 forks one to act as a buffer when the fork unloading is pushing the forks under the pipes as it can push the pipe off the trailer and without the fork on the off side.I see that load has bolsters which is half way there but relying on the bolsters to stop the pipe from rolling off depends on the strength of the bolster.
Cheers Dig
Thanks Oily and Buzzer no need to apologise what interested me was how the pipe was loaded ,this was how we did it in the 70s and early 80s here ,pyramiding the pipe is dangerous when loading and unloading and really needs 2 forks one to act as a buffer when the fork unloading is pushing the forks under the pipes as it can push the pipe off the trailer and without the fork on the off side.I see that load has bolsters which is half way there but relying on the bolsters to stop the pipe from rolling off depends on the strength of the bolster.
Cheers Dig
You’re right Dig, and even worse with very small diameter pipes. I have mentioned before somewhere of the 6" x 10 foot pipes we carried from Stanton to Liverpool docks (spit). Safe enough loading at Stanton because their men knew what they were doing and did all the work. After large wooden chocks were nailed to the bed, between each layer of the pyramid there was a pause as the driver threw over his ropes, then, after the next layer was laid, dollied them causing a tight tension between each layer. After the kingpin was laid on top the whole lot was double dollied both ends. On a 40 foot trailer of course there was plenty of room for a loader to stand between the 2 stacks and at the front and back… Safe as houses on the road, but the real trouible started at the docks. No help at all just a 3 wheel crane with multiple hooks dangling. The lorry driver was expected to do everything else, hook each end of each pipe in a layer, scrambling over the top between them and at the same time keep jumping down and back up to release each layer’s rope. Knackering and dangerous, which was proved when one driver who, presumably to save time, released all his ropes and then accidentally missed one end of one pipe with a hook. The result was the lift was crooked causing the whole lot to collapse over the side, killing him in the process.
I was union rep at Econofreight at the time and asked officially if only pairs of loads could be sent in future so that there were always 2 drivers for each load. Refused. So from then on I, and I assume everybody else had taken the advice, refused to unload till another wagon arrived to assist, not necessarily from the same firm. But it was never the safest of jobs, but then what was ever safe in that pit of denial of the rights of fellow workers, and fellow union (TGWU spit again) members to boot?
Even to this day I get an uncomfortable feeling everytime I hear a Scouse accent, and apologies to our Liverpool members on here who presumably also suffered, and only watched the late Paul O’Grady’s programmes from Battersea because I love dogs. 
Spardo:
Thanks Oily and Buzzer no need to apologise what interested me was how the pipe was loaded ,this was how we did it in the 70s and early 80s here ,pyramiding the pipe is dangerous when loading and unloading and really needs 2 forks one to act as a buffer when the fork unloading is pushing the forks under the pipes as it can push the pipe off the trailer and without the fork on the off side.I see that load has bolsters which is half way there but relying on the bolsters to stop the pipe from rolling off depends on the strength of the bolster.
Cheers Dig
You’re right Dig, and even worse with very small diameter pipes. I have mentioned before somewhere of the 6" x 10 foot pipes we carried from Stanton to Liverpool docks (spit). Safe enough loading at Stanton because their men knew what they were doing and did all the work. After large wooden chocks were nailed to the bed, between each layer of the pyramid there was a pause as the driver threw over his ropes, then, after the next layer was laid, dollied them causing a tight tension between each layer. After the kingpin was laid on top the whole lot was double dollied both ends. On a 40 foot trailer of course there was plenty of room for a loader to stand between the 2 stacks and at the front and back… Safe as houses on the road, but the real trouible started at the docks. No help at all just a 3 wheel crane with multiple hooks dangling. The lorry driver was expected to do everything else, hook each end of each pipe in a layer, scrambling over the top between them and at the same time keep jumping down and back up to release each layer’s rope. Knackering and dangerous, which was proved when one driver who, presumably to save time, released all his ropes and then accidentally missed one end of one pipe with a hook. The result was the lift was crooked causing the whole lot to collapse over the side, killing him in the process.
I was union rep at Econofreight at the time and asked officially if only pairs of loads could be sent in future so that there were always 2 drivers for each load. Refused. So from then on I, and I assume everybody else had taken the advice, refused to unload till another wagon arrived to assist, not necessarily from the same firm. But it was never the safest of jobs, but then what was ever safe in that pit of denial of the rights of fellow workers, and fellow union (TGWU spit again) members to boot?
Even to this day I get an uncomfortable feeling everytime I hear a Scouse accent, and apologies to our Liverpool members on here who presumably also suffered, and only watched the late Paul O’Grady’s programmes from Battersea because I love dogs.
This is the safest way to load using timber gluts between each layer plus chaining as you load and unload layer by laver, in this pic the single on the top was placed with chocks nailed to the top timber
in my day we all carried portable bolsters that we had made strong construction but only there to help with the placement of the pipe.
not the best photo but double click will show it better
Dig
Buzzer:
Buzzer
Edwin Tucker, still in business, re-opened again in Ashburton last year, although they no longer have trucks. The photo is taken at the old premises in West Street which was accessed via a low archway, just high enough for the Commers to pass under, it is pedestrian access only now, but the walls still bear the scars of the lorries turning in. The site was levelled some 60 years ago and is now the town car park.
Pete
oiltreader:
Wow this is impressivea remote controlled climbing crane wind turbine erection.
youtube.com/watch?v=XJKoYPAciXU&t=26s
Oily
Thats impressive piece of kit, I got vertigo watching them putting it together.
This is the safest way to load using timber gluts between each layer plus chaining as you load and unload layer by laver, in this pic the single on the top was placed with chocks nailed to the top timber
Dig
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Funny you should mention gluts. When I was on the timber I felt as though I was the only one in the world that knew what they were.
Buzzer:
Buzzer
Hi Buzzer, I recognised this location straight away. It is the Dock Road in Liverpool.
The bus on the left is a Liverpool Corporation AEC on route number 1 which runs
from Seaforth to Dingle. This bus route started around the end of 1956 after the
Liverpool Overhead Railway, which covered the route, was closed and demolished.
Cheers, Ray.
Thanks to Buzzer, gazsa401 and DIG for the photos
Oily
Welsh wagons credit to Richard Says for the photos.
A couple of DAF lorries in Wigan town centre. Whitleys fridge van DAF is delivering frozen chips
to Mr Chips fish and chip shop, and the Shred-It DAF is collecting paper for disposal.
Ray.
Ray Smyth:
A couple of DAF lorries in Wigan town centre. Whitleys fridge van DAF is delivering frozen chips
to Mr Chips fish and chip shop, and the Shred-It DAF is collecting paper for disposal.Ray.
Delivering frozen chips . . to a chip shop 
youtu.be/lDwMwC07Drw
Demolition but quite a lot of transport.
Suedehead:
Ray Smyth:
A couple of DAF lorries in Wigan town centre. Whitleys fridge van DAF is delivering frozen chips
to Mr Chips fish and chip shop, and the Shred-It DAF is collecting paper for disposal.Ray.
Delivering frozen chips . . to a chip shop
It is probably so that the shop doesnt have to employ staff to wash and peel and slice the spuds. 
Cheers, Ray.
I see one of Stephen Blakeley’s recycling bins up against the church wall there Ray .
Stephen’s equipment is top notch and appears to be consistently maintained in pristine condition , unlike a number of much bigger and better known outfits that I could ( but won’t ) identify . I state this on the basis of my own experience of having to shovel and power wash 3 of 4 cwt of solidified crap from the bottom of some of those bulk bins .
By contrast , I would barely hesitate to eat my dinner off the bottom of one of Stephen’s bins .
A slight exaggeration maybe but then every item of his equipment IS kept exceptionally clean .
On a personal level , and I would emphasise that although I am not in the least bit affected by either the success or failure of his business , I have to say that I’ve always found Stephen to be a top bloke and in my opinion the lad deserves to be successful in his endeavor .
He can hardly fail to succeed actually , as I have so far failed to identify anyone within a 20 mile radius that appears able to equal his exacting standards .
In a world chock full of shysters , why don’t we just say it as it is eh ? …
…who knows ?, it may just advance society that one step closer to a better world …
……I say this more in hope than in expectation .
Ray Smyth:
Suedehead:
Ray Smyth:
A couple of DAF lorries in Wigan town centre. Whitleys fridge van DAF is delivering frozen chips
to Mr Chips fish and chip shop, and the Shred-It DAF is collecting paper for disposal.Ray.
Delivering frozen chips . . to a chip shop
It is probably so that the shop doesnt have to employ staff to wash and peel and slice the spuds.
Cheers, Ray.
I did that for pocket money when I was 12! Cash and as many chips as I could eat.
peterm:
This is the safest way to load using timber gluts between each layer plus chaining as you load and unload layer by laver, in this pic the single on the top was placed with chocks nailed to the top timber
Dig
Funny you should mention gluts. When I was on the timber I felt as though I was the only one in the world that knew what they were.
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Good one Peterm there’s me thinking gluts was an Os term and it looks like your side of the planet discovered it first. 
Dig