Overspeed, aaaaaarrrghh!

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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ROG:
On the old tacho set into the dashboard you could adjust the little red light that was set to come on at 50mph - I used to reset mine to 40 as I found it more useful.
Is this overspeed setting the same thing :question:
Can it also be adjusted, perhaps at the back of the unit :question:

Exactly Rog.
Except the driver cannot adjust the setting as it is an EU requirement, not 56mph but 90kmh

Tales of drivers being done in France for speeding in Britain on the previous day on production of a digital printout are all bull, bull I tell you.

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Coffeeholic:
I really don’t know why people are getting wound up about this. The low fuel warning light coming on isn’t an infringement or offence and the overspeed warning is about the same level of importance as that, just another bit of information for the driver the same as any of the instruments on the dashboard give.

People are getting wound up about this, because it’s annoying and repetitive, and on my vehicle (MAN TGA 430) it doesn’t half let you know every time it goes off.

BEEP. :imp:

“Check Tacho” on instrument panel lights up
A ‘T’ logo coloured amber appears and whole Tacho display (Siemens) flashes amber and the word “Overspeed” is displayed
After a while ‘T’ changes to Red.

I’ve tried to ignore this, but it continues until you repeatedly press the OK button on the tacho.
Until you do, the information, on the tacho, driving time, break taken, clock, etc will not display.

A bit more annoying than a low-fuel warning light, I’d say. :confused:

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Coffeeholic:

bowserman:
The only problem with that one is that where I work, you only get 45 mins paid break per day, so thats all we show, or if I say have 2 x 30 min breaks I lose 15 mins pay.

Ahh, that’s not good. :cry: :cry: You have the only valid reason for booking POA then and there is no way round the POA booked as break problem unfortunately.

Ah - and to add a cautionary note . . . . . . . . .

Take care that you don’t “allow” the machine to register a full/split break too early in the day, or you may have to take another full break later - when you could really do without it as it (the second break) then subsequent driving puts you very close to 15 hours and 5 minutes :blush:

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We have an Ex-Vosa Trainer in charge of our Tacho’s at Gloucester, and a few weeks back he came in and ■■■■■■ me up the hills and down the dales for over speeds, which i accepted as it as Thursday afternoon and iwas finished for the week. He also claimed that too many overspeeds was a prosecutable offence…(Personally i wonder if it goes on/against the O-License Traffic Light System record of the company)

However…

A few weeks ago, there was a thread on here where someone said their mate had shown them his “Overspeed Speeds” on a print out, and a few people myself included, told him he was talking ■■■■■■ Well today i found the option for printing the overspeeds out, and it shows you how fast, what time etc etc… All i can say is some of our night drivers have been flat out down some of the hills. The bollocking’s i got must have been after they downloaded the tacho, not my card, as there are ■■■■ loads on there, and all occur in the early hours of the morning…

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BuzzardBoy:
We have an Ex-Vosa Trainer in charge of our Tacho’s at Gloucester, and a few weeks back he came in and [zb] me up the hills and down the dales for over speeds, which i accepted as it as Thursday afternoon and iwas finished for the week. He also claimed that too many overspeeds was a prosecutable offence…

Tell him he is talking out of his arse and ask him under what legislation this prosecution would be made.

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I have a digi taco now :cry: . A pure pain in the arse,that overspeeding goes away after a while,i don’t notice it so much anymore,just don’t let the speed get into triple figuire’s.

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Coffeeholic:
Tell him he is talking out of his arse and ask him under what legislation this prosecution would be made.

lmao :exclamation: :exclamation: ,now i know why you have that bloke in your avatar :exclamation: :grimacing:

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BuzzardBoy:
We have an Ex-Vosa Trainer in charge of our Tacho’s at Gloucester, and a few weeks back he came in and [zb] me up the hills and down the dales for over speeds, which i accepted as it as Thursday afternoon and iwas finished for the week. He also claimed that too many overspeeds was a prosecutable offence…(Personally i wonder if it goes on/against the O-License Traffic Light System record of the company)

However…

A few weeks ago, there was a thread on here where someone said their mate had shown them his “Overspeed Speeds” on a print out, and a few people myself included, told him he was talking [zb]… Well today i found the option for printing the overspeeds out, and it shows you how fast, what time etc etc… All i can say is some of our night drivers have been flat out down some of the hills. The bollocking’s i got must have been after they downloaded the tacho, not my card, as there are [zb] loads on there, and all occur in the early hours of the morning…

But the digital head / card can only store speed for 24 hours

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Wheel Nut:
But the digital head / card can only store speed for 24 hours

Hi Wheel Nut
in the instruction book for the VDO DTCO1381

it says "speed values are saved over a time period of 168 hours of driving
time the DTCO 1381 saves each second of the driven speed exactly with date and time ( average of several measurements)

Resolution of the stored values 1 km/h

(24 h)
these data can only be read via the download interface

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delboytwo:

Wheel Nut:
But the digital head / card can only store speed for 24 hours

Hi Wheel Nut
in the instruction book for the VDO DTCO1381

it says "speed values are saved over a time period of 168 hours of driving
time the DTCO 1381 saves each second of the driven speed exactly with date and time ( average of several measurements)

Resolution of the stored values 1 km/h

(24 h)
these data can only be read via the download interface

Interesting information Del. Then I am proffering humble apologies to Buzzard Boy

From the horses mouth

How many have got the new VDO unit? without a poll

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I was very interested in the information so continued to read further, however it seems as though VDO are not sure of the product yet.

dtco.co.uk/generator/www/uk/ … ts_en.html

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How much data can be stored in the mass memory?

There is sufficient memory to store up to 365 days worth of driving activities for the average user. Speed recording, however, is limited to 24 hours driving time.

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What data is stored in the mass memory?

The following data is stored in the DTCO’s mass memory:

  • Manufacturer-related information about the DTCO and sensor
  • Vehicle identification (vehicle identification number and vehicle registration number)
  • Events, faults and security elements (encoded keys)
  • Driver identification (identifying the drivers who have used this vehicle and a reference to the last vehicle used by the driver)
  • Driver and co-driver activities (date and time the driver/co-driver card was inserted and withdrawn again; driving, working, availability, rest times and crew status)
  • Odometer reading (at midnight)
  • Speed for the last 24 driving hours
  • Special use conditions (rail/ferry transport out of scope)
  • Calibration centre related information (installation, calibration, inspection)
  • Control activities (identifying the enforcement officer and date/time of last check.

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How much memory capacity does the DTCO have?

With average use the activities of approximately 28 working days can be stored on the driver card. The capacity of the DTCO mass memory is enough to record the activities of approximately 365 days.

Speed recording is limited to the last 24 driving hours and is only recorded in the mass memory of the digital tachograph.

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What is an intelligent speed sensor?

This is a new speed sensor that has been prescribed by the EU for the digital tachograph. The intelligent speed sensor has electronic data encryption and thus provides greater protection against tampering. VDO offers this sensor under the product name KITAS 2171. A new KITAS 2171 can be used with the DTCO 1381 digital tachograph as well as with the MTCO 1324.

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Is the KITAS 2171 compatible with the current 2159 pulse senders?

The KITAS pulse sender is mechanically compatible with the current 2159 pulse sender units. Because the KITAS pulse sender has electronic security features there is no electrical compatibility with the 2159 sensor.

I am sure this thread will run and run :wink:

ps. One thing that will catch on is the remote wireless link, instant download as you drive through the company gates or past a VOSA / BAG Sensor :bulb:

(Other enforcement agencies are available)

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Wheel Nut:

delboytwo:

Wheel Nut:
But the digital head / card can only store speed for 24 hours

Hi Wheel Nut
in the instruction book for the VDO DTCO1381

it says "speed values are saved over a time period of 168 hours of driving
time the DTCO 1381 saves each second of the driven speed exactly with date and time ( average of several measurements)

Resolution of the stored values 1 km/h

(24 h)
these data can only be read via the download interface

Interesting information Del. Then I am proffering humble apologies to Buzzard Boy

From the horses mouth

How many have got the new VDO unit? without a poll

Thats ok, i understand, most people are used to Lorry Drivers speaking utter ■■■■■■■■, so its fuly understandable… :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I will do a printout next week of the overspeeds and post it up…

From memory if you scrol down until it displays “Print Vehicle”, then go thru the print vehicle menu its in there…

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One of the overspeeds on my print out was from May 21st this year!!

Dont know if it makes a difference or not, but my digi is a very early one, as its in an 06 plate truck…

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We get an infringement for exceeding 90kph. Yes I know the limit is 60 on a motorway but the company have said that as our limiters are set at 85 then we are obviously allowing the vehicle to run out of control if we exceed 90 and it’s naughty. Sadly we just have to accept this as they have made the policy quite clear to us.

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tofer:
We get an infringement for exceeding 90kph. Yes I know the limit is 60 on a motorway but the company have said that as our limiters are set at 85 then we are obviously allowing the vehicle to run out of control if we exceed 90 and it’s naughty. Sadly we just have to accept this as they have made the policy quite clear to us.

If it is company policy that you have to keep it down because of fuel economy etc then I see no prob with that but how can they say that about the limiter overspeed when they have not given a reason :question:

I would like to know their reason because it is not ‘out of control’

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BuzzardBoy:
From memory if you scrol down until it displays “Print Vehicle”, then go thru the print vehicle menu its in there…

That’s exactly where it is.

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Bosshog:
In the volvo FM you can change the overspeed setting by going in to the password protected pat of the dashboard menu to what ever speed you want it to be so ive heard :blush:

The option in the password protected bit on the Volvo menu only sets the fleet speed limit and doesn’t make any alterations to the speed limiter or the overspeed settings. In the same section it is possible to set fleet rmp limits and fuel targets.