flat to the mat:
The Oracle(Orys),answer me this question.
I will try my best.
You chose to move to Britain with it’s low standards,dirty streets,and lazy workers.You give the impression that you’ll be staying for a while and try to make a life for yourself in that rat infested place,rather you than me,but if you do intend living there long term will you be applying for British citizenship or is your move purely out of convenience ?
I chosed to move to Britain mostly for several reasons - I wanted to see the world, learn language and also I needed a change for personal reasons. Britain has its downsides but also have its upsides. The streets are dirty indeed, that’s why I have chosen to live in better are than Glasgow East Side. I pay more, but the neighbourhood is up to my standards. The dirtiness of other quarters of the town are not bothering me as I am not going there too much, but it is a fact.
I don’t know to what low standards you are refering, if you clarify “low standards of what”, I will able to answer if I agree with that Britain has low standards in particular field and if I do agree on that, I will try to explain to you why.
Lazy workers - well, that’s not really a disadvantage, don’t you think? I am not employer so far, and if I want to get a job thanks to amount of lazy people it’s easier to me. As you propably know being a migrant worker yourself, by definition its supposed to be harder for foreigner who don’t know the local area, customs and everything (not to mention the language that, unless you live in Quebec, is propably not your problem), so lazy workers from my very personal point of view is advantage, not disadvantage. And please not that I never told that ALL British people are lazy or can’t work. I am just saying that on average more percentage of Poles in UK is willing to work hard than Britons in the UK - from the obvious reason that these who were too lazy, stayed back in Poland. (there are also other issues related to the work etics I guess, but I would consider that as a smaller thing).
But Britain also has a lot of advantages: it’s easier to live here if you have incom circulating around the lowest bits of the scale (altough, luckily, this times are behind me and hopely it will stay that way). The beaurocracy is much less annoying and ordinary citizen, compared to Poland, has almost no contact with it at all… The influence on the church on the everyday life is also minimal compared to what’s going on in Poland. The law is clear and it does not changes every time the new goverment is created. Universities provide quality schooling in the fields I am interested with. The country is very nice and Scotland is one of the most beaufiful places I ever been, and I’ve been to quite a few. Weather is also good for me, as I don’t really like too much heat. Also: Taxes are (relatively) lower while compared to Poland you have a feeling that much less of what you paid is wasted. And last not least, it’s still easier to live in crisis struck UK than in Prosperity Poland…
So this are about the most important positives I see from living in your country.
For now I am not considering applying for British citizenship. I am EU citizen and the rights I have here are sufficient for me… And an idea of giving up being of a free citizen in favour of becoming a subject of the royal family is not really appealing to me…
Saying that I am aware of my duties as a resident, and I am always observing the law, paying taxes and stuff… So in fact the biggest issue with me being not a citizen of UK is that I cannot vote in British elections, but I don’t feel that I deserve THAT yet - it’s a big responsibility and honour to vote in one’s country election and I think maybe in 10 years (If I still be here) I will consider myself “British enough” to think about it.
As for the duration of my stay? I would like to see few more countries before I decide where to settle my old bones… I will propably stay here a bit longer due to my studies and then, I’ll see. I am not saying that I won’t stay here permanently, but for now I haven’t decided yet.
I moved to Canada before “you lot invaded” good old Blighty,and if I were to refer to the Canadians the way you speak about the British I am certain that I’d have been deported long ago,or taken out and shot.
It’s very interesting, my half-sister lived in Canada for most of her life (only recently she spent three years in Warsaw but she is just back). Over this years she was a journalist and she become a columnist for one quite popular paper in Edmonton, when she was, from her European point of view, pointing out the weaknesses of the Canadian society. The column proved to be very popular. You can google her up if you want, PM and I give you her name.
Fortunately I have a bit more respect for the country I choose to live in than you do for yours,so subsequently became a citizen.
You’ve committed to being a citizen of where ■■?
Emigrating to Canada is completely different thing. Emigrating within EU is, thanks to European integration, just a step further than moving from Glasgow to Cardiff. I do believe in European Union idea and I being an EU Citizen is good enough for me. If Britain decides to leave EU, well, then I would have to consider if I want to apply for citizenship here, or to move to somehwere over the channel. But for now I don’t think I need any other citizenship, since my own is good enough. And I don’t feel that aplplying for citizenship is mandatory to show that you respect the country you live in - many of British citizens do not respect this country despite having British passport - to mention just a Muslim extremist for example… I think compared to them you’ll find that my residency here, despite that I am not willing to submiss to become a Queen’s subject, is much better for your country than theirs.
I hope I explained my position, if you need to clarify anything, feel free to ask.
As for the rest,maybe i should have gotten all my knowledge from books like Orys then i could say i am an intellectual .
) Since I pointed out rigthly that your opinions about ALL Eastern Europeans doing this and thas are nothing more that unjust generalising statement, and you dont’ have a guts to admit that you exagerated it, you choose cheap sarcasm…
