keith8357:
the picture of the scania is me & ivan bramwell that truck belonged to “Crows” before norman keenleyside bought it & yes kenny the “White” was a flying machine
got 90mph loaded with 20 ton of salt early one morning on m6 backed of did not want blow out took some handling this was before limiters because of front axle been so far forward heed
the heed:
keith8357:
the picture of the scania is me & ivan bramwell that truck belonged to “Crows” before norman keenleyside bought it & yes kenny the “White” was a flying machineyou keeping okay Kieth just getting back on my feet been very ill last 4 months thanks to bad reaction from medication barry retired yet tell him from me best job ever get take care john
yes john just had barrie down for lunch he retired just before xmas, i am still trundling along as ever got myself a semi-trailer 7 car sooooooo easy its embarrassing with a nice new semi high scania to pull it so no complaints, sorry to hear you have been poorly mate
keith8357:
the heed:
keith8357:
the picture of the scania is me & ivan bramwell that truck belonged to “Crows” before norman keenleyside bought it & yes kenny the “White” was a flying machineyou keeping okay Kieth just getting back on my feet been very ill last 4 months thanks to bad reaction from medication barry retired yet tell him from me best job ever get take care john
yes john just had barrie down for lunch he retired just before xmas, i am still trundling along as ever got myself a semi-trailer 7 car sooooooo easy its embarrassing with a nice new semi high scania to pull it so no complaints, sorry to hear you have been poorly mate
Dont complain looks a good motor easier the better. you and barry need to meet up with me one day for a drink , my daughter is about to get a house in heworth so when it happens would love to meet up some where john
yep try and sort it just run out of time at weekends john got grandkids but will try and sort somat out
keith8357:
yep try and sort it just run out of time at weekends john got grandkids but will try and sort somat out
no what its like thanfully my two do not have kids more carrear people than settling down they are 22 nad 24 laddy training for hotel management at matfern and daughter with tecos so is her partner
keith8357:
future trucker without a dout
Couldn’t resist " flipping " them…hope you don’t mind.
Regards. John.
no not at all
No Pics of the 1st artic Kieth B series wasnt it? Im semi retired now do a trip Wed Back Thurs out of Prudhoe for Elddis, Davy Robson is shunting in the factory.
i haven’t got a pic of the erf kenny it was ex cazaly,s same as the saviem i got after that, tell davy i was asking after him if you see him
paulycats:
5thDragoon:
I worked for Adam Lythgoe during 1963/4 as plant fitter at the Shadforth Quarry chasing big money, 7 days 12 hour shifts. The quarry was owned by one man, I forget his name, and Lythgoe only had an agreement to take off overburden and sandstone to expose the magnesium limestone which was excavated, crushed and then pulverised into powder form. Apart from loads which went local, the finished product was stockpiled for movement to Seaham Docks for onward shipment to Scotland. The principle haulier was John Long from Haswell who had 5 or 6 daily, and a transport outfit from Westerhope, mainly Bedfords painted cream with orange wings. Lythgoe never had any of their own vehicles operating out of Shadforth whilst I was there.Spoke to our Ron today to try and clarify this. Ron can remember Long’s from Haswell leading out of Shadforth but without doubt, it was a Lythgoe BMC tipper that “eased” him off the road at Sherburn Hill. The driver did’nt or could’nt (more likely) stop to see how Ron was!
The only detail he can’t confirm is the exact date. We ran this Trader from ‘61’ to ‘65’, but i would guess at ‘63’? Ron remembers Lythgoe’s running out of Houghton quarry too. Regards Ian
Hi “paulycats” I used to load Lime at a Quarry in the earley 70s Called Running Waters, I wonder if it is still going, It was a great place to load , I could go in late on a Sat when they had all gone home & load myself they used to leave the keys for the loading shovel on a ledge & the W/B Unlocked , One of the good jobs, Then up to Airdrie on the Sunday & tip, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
paulycats:
5thDragoon:
I worked for Adam Lythgoe during 1963/4 as plant fitter at the Shadforth Quarry chasing big money, 7 days 12 hour shifts. The quarry was owned by one man, I forget his name, and Lythgoe only had an agreement to take off overburden and sandstone to expose the magnesium limestone which was excavated, crushed and then pulverised into powder form. Apart from loads which went local, the finished product was stockpiled for movement to Seaham Docks for onward shipment to Scotland. The principle haulier was John Long from Haswell who had 5 or 6 daily, and a transport outfit from Westerhope, mainly Bedfords painted cream with orange wings. Lythgoe never had any of their own vehicles operating out of Shadforth whilst I was there.Spoke to our Ron today to try and clarify this. Ron can remember Long’s from Haswell leading out of Shadforth but without doubt, it was a Lythgoe BMC tipper that “eased” him off the road at Sherburn Hill. The driver did’nt or could’nt (more likely) stop to see how Ron was!
The only detail he can’t confirm is the exact date. We ran this Trader from ‘61’ to ‘65’, but i would guess at ‘63’? Ron remembers Lythgoe’s running out of Houghton quarry too. Regards IanHi “paulycats” I used to load Lime at a Quarry in the earley 70s Called Running Waters, I wonder if it is still going, It was a great place to load , I could go in late on a Sat when they had all gone home & load myself they used to leave the keys for the loading shovel on a ledge & the W/B Unlocked , One of the good jobs, Then up to Airdrie on the Sunday & tip, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry, I’m thinking this would be “Silent Bank” or"Deaf hill" quarry (depending on who you’re talking to. We knew it as Deaf Hill) on the A181 from Durham to Wingate road (probably a 1 in 10 bank).It closed a few years back. The last owner’s were Sherburn Stone Company i think.
Hope you put the key’s back under the mat when you left!!!
Might have more info on this quarry later? Ian.
Anyone else had a “Trader” that had trouble stopping(braking) when in reverse? Ron would say this was a weakness with PT 193. He could service the brakes (clean out drums,adjust shoes and vent/drain air tanks etc) and still within a few days they would be very poor stopping in reverse.
On one occasion he was running(ahead and loaded) “in convoy” with J type XGR 768 approaching a junction and overstepped the white line in busy traffic, so backed up a “little”. The J type “braked” the Trader with it’s nose!
From noses to finger’s!
Dad and bro’ were replacing a broken spring in Warden Law one Saturday morning. Having removed the broken one(they had probably replaced the broken leaf), they were now busy aligning up the repaired spring to engage the shackle pins. Bro’ had to disappear for half an hour to collect a new electric fire from a shop in the Harbour (Seaham shopping centre) the shop’s closed at 12 noon, and left with Dad’s blessing.
When bro’ returns to the quarry, there is nobody around the wagon? One of the lad’s run’s up and tells bro’ Dad has been rushed to hospital. He had been using his left index finger to “feel” for the alignment of chassis and spring “eye” when the jack had slipped.
Ron found half of dad’s finger hanging by a thread of skin, but it was too late to take it to hospital.
Dad was back at work on the Monday but another accident would follow at Warden Law that could have been fatal!
paulycats:
Lawrence Dunbar:
paulycats:
5thDragoon:
I worked for Adam Lythgoe during 1963/4 as plant fitter at the Shadforth Quarry chasing big money, 7 days 12 hour shifts. The quarry was owned by one man, I forget his name, and Lythgoe only had an agreement to take off overburden and sandstone to expose the magnesium limestone which was excavated, crushed and then pulverised into powder form. Apart from loads which went local, the finished product was stockpiled for movement to Seaham Docks for onward shipment to Scotland. The principle haulier was John Long from Haswell who had 5 or 6 daily, and a transport outfit from Westerhope, mainly Bedfords painted cream with orange wings. Lythgoe never had any of their own vehicles operating out of Shadforth whilst I was there.Spoke to our Ron today to try and clarify this. Ron can remember Long’s from Haswell leading out of Shadforth but without doubt, it was a Lythgoe BMC tipper that “eased” him off the road at Sherburn Hill. The driver did’nt or could’nt (more likely) stop to see how Ron was!
The only detail he can’t confirm is the exact date. We ran this Trader from ‘61’ to ‘65’, but i would guess at ‘63’? Ron remembers Lythgoe’s running out of Houghton quarry too. Regards IanHi “paulycats” I used to load Lime at a Quarry in the earley 70s Called Running Waters, I wonder if it is still going, It was a great place to load , I could go in late on a Sat when they had all gone home & load myself they used to leave the keys for the loading shovel on a ledge & the W/B Unlocked , One of the good jobs, Then up to Airdrie on the Sunday & tip, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry, I’m thinking this would be “Silent Bank” or"Deaf hill" quarry (depending on who you’re talking to. We knew it as Deaf Hill) on the A181 from Durham to Wingate road (probably a 1 in 10 bank).It closed a few years back. The last owner’s were Sherburn Stone Company i think.
Hope you put the key’s back under the mat when you left!!!
Might have more info on this quarry later? Ian.
Hi Ian, I think it could been called Witchhill also, Regards Larry.
Hiya,
Larry I’ve always known the bank referred to Witch Hill used it many times.
thanks harry, long retired.
I always knew it as Asylum Bank.
Just googled mapped the area to refresh my memory . A181 out of Durham, The Three Horseshoes Pub on the right is classed as Running Waters, couple of hundred yards further along and on the other side of the road is a bungalow, and next to it the entrance road to Running Waters Quarry is still there. I was sure there was a filling station there as well but it looks like some kind of kennels in the yard of the bungalow now. Last time I loaded out of there would be late eighties very early nineties and it belonged to Sherburn stone then.
Further up the hill the road splits into a dual carriageway and Strawberry Hill farm is on the left and just past that is the entrance to Witch Hill Quarry (looks closed) again owned by Sherburn Stone.
Jimmy Blackburn who I worked with at Smiles for Miles in the 60s, Regards Larry.
Hi paulycats, I wonder how many of us have been tempted to check spring shackle pin holes for being in line using a finger and got bitten, use a tommy bar to be safe and keep a full set of fingers. !!
Cheers Leyland 600.
Leyland600:
Hi paulycats, I wonder how many of us have been tempted to check spring shackle pin holes for being in line using a finger and got bitten, use a tommy bar to be safe and keep a full set of fingers. !!
Cheers Leyland 600.
Aye! you’re right of course mate but i realise now that as an owner operator(s) in those day’s, dad and bro’ would work 5 and a half day’s a week out of the quarries AND spend (at times) Saturday afternoon and Sunday mornings doing maintenance/repairs to keep the wagon’s on the road. They must have been “pig sick” at times and(tired) alway’s the worry of time off the road (no income) So why did they (and you lot out there) do it?..Masochist’s 
