pete smith:
Hi Forster,
You mentioned that the Leyland Terriers had those nitrogen tanks on them,if I remember correctly the tank was inside the front off side of chassis and had to be recharged by main dealer. This would be on an M reg motor fitted with the four pot BMC engine and it would not stop one day and ran into garage doors in yard, it got sent to Charles Clark’s at Longford island in Cannock for tank to be recharged, the later Terriers never had them on Y reg’s but them air over hydraulic brakes first touch of them in the morning they were fierce rest of the day they stopped you…just! Yes the cabs were too heavy to tilt on your own,torsion bars not strong enough,and you had to remember to take pinch bolt out of bottom of steering column or you would bend the underneath of the dashboard ,Cheer’s Pete
Hi, Pete, The Terriers I worked on were M and N reg, so that would explain the early braking system. These were 6 pot motors. 6.98VD engine code IIRC. Another fault on them was the bonded rubber coupling on the engine fan would fail, leading to a ‘Wobbly Fan Syndrome’!! Eric.
pete smith:
Hi Forster,
You mentioned that the Leyland Terriers had those nitrogen tanks on them,if I remember correctly the tank was inside the front off side of chassis and had to be recharged by main dealer. This would be on an M reg motor fitted with the four pot BMC engine and it would not stop one day and ran into garage doors in yard, it got sent to Charles Clark’s at Longford island in Cannock for tank to be recharged, the later Terriers never had them on Y reg’s but them air over hydraulic brakes first touch of them in the morning they were fierce rest of the day they stopped you…just! Yes the cabs were too heavy to tilt on your own,torsion bars not strong enough,and you had to remember to take pinch bolt out of bottom of steering column or you would bend the underneath of the dashboard ,Cheer’s Pete
Hi, Pete, The Terriers I worked on were M and N reg, so that would explain the early braking system. These were 6 pot motors. 6.98VD engine code IIRC. Another fault on them was the bonded rubber coupling on the engine fan would fail, leading to a ‘Wobbly Fan Syndrome’!! Eric.
Hi Eric,
This was on an M reg as well,I have a picture of it somewhere but i’m damned if i can find it! Cheer’s Pete
pete smith:
Hi Forster,
You mentioned that the Leyland Terriers had those nitrogen tanks on them,if I remember correctly the tank was inside the front off side of chassis and had to be recharged by main dealer. This would be on an M reg motor fitted with the four pot BMC engine and it would not stop one day and ran into garage doors in yard, it got sent to Charles Clark’s at Longford island in Cannock for tank to be recharged, the later Terriers never had them on Y reg’s but them air over hydraulic brakes first touch of them in the morning they were fierce rest of the day they stopped you…just! Yes the cabs were too heavy to tilt on your own,torsion bars not strong enough,and you had to remember to take pinch bolt out of bottom of steering column or you would bend the underneath of the dashboard ,Cheer’s Pete
Hi, Pete, The Terriers I worked on were M and N reg, so that would explain the early braking system. These were 6 pot motors. 6.98VD engine code IIRC. Another fault on them was the bonded rubber coupling on the engine fan would fail, leading to a ‘Wobbly Fan Syndrome’!! Eric.
Hi Eric,We had this happen to Nigels Terrier,As you say the wobbly syndrome, Buists at Shiremoor didn’t have any but we managed to locate a one at Carlisle Gilbraiths IIRC, I got two because they were difficult to get at that time, Regards Larry.
There must have good money to made in the Pre War years in haulage, My late great uncle Isaac Smiles had these Rio Speed Wagons in 1936 & went on to run a large fleet until 1975, Then they went into volentery liquidation, Sad I think that these hauliers are no longer operating, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry, In an earlier posting, you mentioned Franky Wouters- Father & Son had a scrapyard under Byker Bridge, I got parts there for my Ford Pop. in the mid 60’s. They also had a yard on Stepney Bank. I recall one of them had a personal reg, something like FW 16.
Eric.
pete smith:
Hi Forster,
You mentioned that the Leyland Terriers had those nitrogen tanks on them,if I remember correctly the tank was inside the front off side of chassis and had to be recharged by main dealer. This would be on an M reg motor fitted with the four pot BMC engine and it would not stop one day and ran into garage doors in yard, it got sent to Charles Clark’s at Longford island in Cannock for tank to be recharged, the later Terriers never had them on Y reg’s but them air over hydraulic brakes first touch of them in the morning they were fierce rest of the day they stopped you…just! Yes the cabs were too heavy to tilt on your own,torsion bars not strong enough,and you had to remember to take pinch bolt out of bottom of steering column or you would bend the underneath of the dashboard ,Cheer’s Pete
Hi, Pete, The Terriers I worked on were M and N reg, so that would explain the early braking system. These were 6 pot motors. 6.98VD engine code IIRC. Another fault on them was the bonded rubber coupling on the engine fan would fail, leading to a ‘Wobbly Fan Syndrome’!! Eric.
Hi Eric,We had this happen to Nigels Terrier,As you say the wobbly syndrome, Buists at Shiremoor didn’t have any but we managed to locate a one at Carlisle Gilbraiths IIRC, I got two because they were difficult to get at that time, Regards Larry.
funny how leyland never learnt , we had ergomatic badgers in 1972 with the same problem . difference with them was they chewed the radiators up regularly . dave
forster:
0 Advert for TT Walker. Thomas Temperly Walker was, I think his full name. IIRC as well as the wagons, he had a farm on Throckley Fell Top.
Eric.
Your right on both things Eric, The farm you mention had a red gravel road up to it, It was sold about 7/8 years ago IIRC, Regards Larry.
forster:
0 Advert for TT Walker. Thomas Temperly Walker was, I think his full name. IIRC as well as the wagons, he had a farm on Throckley Fell Top.
Eric.
Your right on both things Eric, The farm you mention had a red gravel road up to it, It was sold about 7/8 years ago IIRC, Regards Larry.
Think it was called Callerton Grange Farm. He also owned Northumbrian Roadways who were on Wellington Road, Dunston just before the railway arch. Northumbrian used to do distance work while he ran the tipper side from Newburn
forster:
0 Advert for TT Walker. Thomas Temperly Walker was, I think his full name. IIRC as well as the wagons, he had a farm on Throckley Fell Top.
Eric.
Your right on both things Eric, The farm you mention had a red gravel road up to it, It was sold about 7/8 years ago IIRC, Regards Larry.
Hiya,
Remember doing a couple of days for TT Walker doing “muckshift” with a six wheeled
tipper this was when the Hexham by-pass was being constructed I was working for
Glenny’s at the time and my regular down the road motor was off for service or test
so it must have been the early 70s I reckon, my instruction was to report to Newburn
and they’ll find you something to do, it did make a change though, home every night.
thanks harry, long retired.
your mention of Hexham reminds me of many a family ‘discussion’ in the car. During family holidays over the past 25 years, as we went past a town, my wife would ask whether it was worth visiting. Since my visits to almost every town in the UK were in the early seventies, and usually to the roughest part, my answer was almost always negative. Wife and daughter usually outvoted me and we went anyway, almost always finding a decent shopping centre and somewhere nice for lunch. The best example of this was Hexham. We were passing on the A69. Since I’d only ever delivered timber to the chipboard factory (my uncle Jack always chose well weathered trees to go there - they paid by cube and not weight and I can remember being pulled to the front of the queue once when they saw that the logs I was carrying had the bark falling off - anyway, I digress) I had only ever seen the industrial estate, my solid opinion was that it was a dump!
Outvoted as usual by the females - even the little dog on my wife’s knee was a ■■■■■ - not that I mean…
Anyway some 10 years ago we visited Hexham, a beautiful market town, with all the shops occupied and mostly locally owned. (obviously, I don’t know whether it’s changed since) So, now when we go past any town and I’m asked my opinion, I hesitate (Newark was another…) then say ‘well, let’s go and see.’
forster:
Hi Larry, In an earlier posting, you mentioned Franky Wouters- Father & Son had a scrapyard under Byker Bridge, I got parts there for my Ford Pop. in the mid 60’s. They also had a yard on Stepney Bank. I recall one of them had a personal reg, something like FW 16.
Eric.
Hi Eric, Franky was a good friend of mine, He had Skip Wagons at one time & a Van Sales lot in one of the old sheds on the Quayside, Plus he had a lot of limmousines at his home in Westerhope Mercs Etc, I attended his funeral, What a great send off, Horse drawn Hearse, The played the theme from Steptoe on the way in & Only Fools & Horses on the way out, A great bloke to know IMO, Regards Larry.
forster:
0 Advert for TT Walker. Thomas Temperly Walker was, I think his full name. IIRC as well as the wagons, he had a farm on Throckley Fell Top.
Eric.
Hi Eric the farm at the fell top was callerton grange farm. My uncle ran the farm and I spent many a happy a year growing up on the farm. My dad also drove for Thomas. Love the poster great find. Kind regards Davie
forster:
0 Advert for TT Walker. Thomas Temperly Walker was, I think his full name. IIRC as well as the wagons, he had a farm on Throckley Fell Top.
Eric.
Your right on both things Eric, The farm you mention had a red gravel road up to it, It was sold about 7/8 years ago IIRC, Regards Larry.
Think it was called Callerton Grange Farm. He also owned Northumbrian Roadways who were on Wellington Road, Dunston just before the railway arch. Northumbrian used to do distance work while he ran the tipper side from Newburn
I believe a gentleman called Ivan Watson was traffic manager at Northumbrian Roadways
Hi Lawrence, I remember a couple of wagons belonging to T T Walker coming to Wigton with two loads of bricks about 1950/51 for a new house being built near my parents home, I was just a boy of 9 or 10 at the time. One wagon was an AEC I distinctly recall with a high traditional radiator probable a Mk 1 Mommoth Major or Monarch painted red with T T Walker on the door, thinking back I suppose it could have been an ex BRS motor after the de-nationalisation of BRS about that time. I still live only 100 yards away from this house.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
thechink1968:
I believe a gentleman called Ivan Watson was traffic manager at Northumbrian Roadways
At the back end of the 1960’s Ivan was the head man; he lived in Lemington. At that time Jack King ran the traffic. Earlier than that, Jack King used to work for Suttons of St. Helens at Gilesgate when Ted Curtis was the Traffic Manager. Jack used to write his notes in Pitman’s Shorthand so that Ted wouldn’t know what he was doing. Jack’s last job was to open a clearing house for A-One Transport of Leeds on the Quayside in Newcastle. When Jack King retired, Brian Ingham took on the job. Brian later worked as manager for Stanton Grove who handled the paper coming in through Tyne Dock.
,Cheer’s Pete
