Not Shropshire but I think this is a ‘cattle wagon’ thread now isn’t it?
I love it anyway …
Where was I? Oh yeah, found these beauties on the net - hope the owners don’t mind but they’re too good not to share
I think that’s a little Commer in the colour snap and note the distinctive Thames Trader in the bottom photo
they are to good toshare gardener, like the saunders ulveston and I no who Charles alexander are but did not relise they had cattle trucks.
Hi Gardner 120 brilliant photo’s thanks for posting
It’s amazing how many “names” in the haulage game used to run livestock vehicles. My old boss, who ran both livestock & general until they closed, reckoned that the reason hauliers gave up livestock was more to do with the difficulty in getting money from farmers than any of the diseases!
charliemjp:
hi all retiered and kingswinsford, when at baxters Gloucester was there a bloke living in the house by entrance came and unloaded you. keith I never answered you on north devon meats, yes we used to go there a lot , always rember the road was very narrow in places used to meet a firm coming the other way called tolley and smale or something sim they did not hang about. then we got a bloke from be low bistol to pull our trailors .we used to drop them on a big Whitbread pub car park and bring empty back.on baxters northhampton we went to there plac in small village and later to the new one, if me mem serfs me right they had one in Chelmsford. cheers CHARLIE
Hi charlie, thatchap from Bristol who used to help you out was it by any chance Alick Jarrot from Wick ? Going back to the West Mids do you recall Tomlinsons meats at Kingswinford , and Yates at Bloxwich ? . Bet you did Webber meats at Exeter . regards Keith
Thanks for showing the ■■■■■■■ cattle wagon pics. on here , “Gardner120”. 
The Leyland Retriever of M.E. Saunders & Sons was an early release of the Ergomatic cab.
Here`s a photograph of the Retriever , a 1/50 th. Corgi model , with a scratchbuilt 3 deck container I made.
By co-incidence , I am starting to build a model of the John Stable Leyland Comet.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
That’s a beauty mate - reminds me of our Super Reiver
morn ,all , morn kingswinsford kit. yes used to go to tomlisons ham lane , i am trying to think what trucks they had. i got a scania 81 day cab in mind with 2 axle single wheels, could be wrong. then they got another truck with biggar unit and new box. they seemed to go big quick good people to work for. yates were one i did a lot for a regulr Monday was calves wellington mark and then Newport mark to bloxwich. both markets long gone. there is also another at brown hills called poxens there abb just on left as came in , i still see there delivery truck around here…i know its out of Shropshire but duggans Redditch were big firm there double decker used to be fetching cows carlile, john copper and Griffiths suckle did a lot of duggans work. cheers charlie
charliemjp:
morn ,all , morn kingswinsford kit. yes used to go to tomlisons ham lane , i am trying to think what trucks they had. i got a scania 81 day cab in mind with 2 axle single wheels, could be wrong. then they got another truck with biggar unit and new box. they seemed to go big quick good people to work for. yates were one i did a lot for a regulr Monday was calves wellington mark and then Newport mark to bloxwich. both markets long gone. there is also another at brown hills called poxens there abb just on left as came in , i still see there delivery truck around here…i know its out of Shropshire but duggans Redditch were big firm there double decker used to be fetching cows carlile, john copper and Griffiths suckle did a lot of duggans work. cheers charlie
Hi charlie , i cant remember what wagons Tomlinsons used to have , yes Poxens they were well known back in those days .
Is that John Cooper from Crowle ? , i think but not sure he may have given up stock work , as has Griffiths from Suckley - they used to have a Atkinson 4 wheeler on stock work years a go . Peter Badger appears to be the main haulier in Worcs at present , though Gilders are frequently at the Markets as well
by the way charlie does Market Drayton still have a market , thanks regards Keith .
hi keith , yes market drayton have got a market just off by pass, a lot of farmers prevere to go there than shrewsbury. Peter badger has been around a long time, and sager wood used to be big .there are a couple of artic tippers bring grain in to us and I am sure he said he was sager s grand son Willams Gloucester always in shrewsbury picking cows up for chard.
charliemjp:
hi keith , yes market drayton have got a market just off by pass, a lot of farmers prevere to go there than shrewsbury. Peter badger has been around a long time, and sager wood used to be big .there are a couple of artic tippers bring grain in to us and I am sure he said he was sager s grand son Willams Gloucester always in shrewsbury picking cows up for chard.
Is the cafe still open in the Market Drayton livestock market Charlie. I t was a good place when I stopped there a few years ago.
Cheers Dave.
morn Dave and all, yes I came past last week and signs still up, the trucks park there over night. did you see 8 wheeler e r f on fb caddwallders of rodington shrewsbury . I just wandered if any body rembers them . used to run tippers and tanks south wales every day. had a lot scania s some in I c I colours cheers Charlie.
I can’t remember them Charlie. I know of Cadwalladers of Rodington. I was up at Gobowen on Monday, then came back down to Telford town centre. We did get a few pics, but either the sun or spots of rain stopped us getting many.
Cheers Dave.
charliemjp:
hello all , pebbles 74 , yes your spot on loadig low lowders. dropped 2 ramps to load top 3 sections,lift ramps up and then lift trap door to load bottem 2 sections.drop trap door leaving back section. I had that madator and trailor new reg GNT163N and I took it to stuarts on a sunday. that was ok but return trip not so good. I had to pick a s type Bedford up from Honiton dairy it was destined for minsterly by home it had big wheels and had been used to s pread waste on fields. I put trde plates no and headed north on m5 at 45 miles a hour, I got it to glouster and engine mounting broke so dumped it and hitched home.
Hello Charliemjp, sorry for not thanking you for your reply before now, been a bit hectic!
I guess the Bedford was from Express Dairies at Honiton? If so, you must have gone right passed my Mum & Dad’s at Fenny Bridges on the old A30.
Regards, Andrew.
charliemjp:
morn Dave and all, yes I came past last week and signs still up, the trucks park there over night. did you see 8 wheeler e r f on fb caddwallders of rodington shrewsbury . I just wandered if any body rembers them . used to run tippers and tanks south wales every day. had a lot scania s some in I c I colours cheers Charlie.
Hi charlie ,
Yes i can remember Cadwallerders of Rodington they had green ERFs Atkinsons and in later years Scanias , on tipper and bulk tank work to S Wales , and also they did offcuts from GKN hadley to i think GKN Cwmbran .
H Williams Gloucester they had a big Mack unit which has appeared on this thread , yes they have Scanias as well . I bet with Parrys you did Chard meats as well ! Hey charlie did you visit Ensors in the Forest ? thanks regards Keith .
charliemjp:
morn Dave and all, yes I came past last week and signs still up, the trucks park there over night. did you see 8 wheeler e r f on fb caddwallders of rodington shrewsbury . I just wandered if any body rembers them . used to run tippers and tanks south wales every day. had a lot scania s some in I c I colours cheers Charlie.
hello charlie how are you , yes those Cadwallerders were green and wernt they from High ercall , i would see them loading salt in Middlewich and those in ICI colours , and i think they would work with Cyril forrester , see them at monsanto , thank you Trevor
hi trevor , yes that caddwallders roddington , they ended up doing scrap from sanky s to brybo, a bloke from Whixall took some of the trucks on.
charliemjp:
hi trevor , yes that caddwallders roddington , they ended up doing scrap from sanky s to brybo, a bloke from Whixall took some of the trucks on.
Hello charlie , that bloke from Whixhall was his name something like Cartright from Coton ? GKN wouldcome to Shotton with scrap too with a AEC tipper artic . good to hear from you Trevor .
Saviem:
charliemjp:
even saviem, , ys those trailors were ideal for the job. I rember once we had been I rosslare 2 days because bad weather. I rang the port to see if they were taking us , and to my surprise they said yes. when we left port the sea was unreal but thse trailors never moved. Geoff was a very clever man and our worst ttime was when we lost him at 53. I still say we would still be going if he was at the helm '. keith hope your ok the lairage at holy head was some one elses but we did use it a lot. thanks saviem and Keith keep writing
Evening all, Charlie, spent many a happy hour with Geoff, and Alma, real people, and so typical of the industry that I remember…full of “real” people!
Cheerio for now.
[The quote ‘we would be still going today if Geoff was still in charge’ I do that Geoff would have something to say about this, bearing in mind his brothers who were so unsupportive, negative, without any foresight, any without any business experience and very selfish. This confirms Geoff’s belief that their could only be one BOSS in any company. Look at what he created in his short life, from leaving the Royal Marines in 1946 to creating a company with over 40 employees and assets which included company shares and property in both the UK and Ireland, the later I have benefited from in the recent years. I was always very supportive of his projects and always looked for new business and was guided by his vast experience when it came to different ways in which we could diversify and, as he always said ‘make good profits’ Geoff always had faith in his choice of employees, ‘bring them in young and educate them in the Geoff Parry way of doing things’ this always worked, and even today you have the proof of this on this web site. Charlie MJP is proof of this. The M J Parry book which is now being published will put the ultimate read among those who have any comments on the demise of the famous family company…that’s all for now…watch this space…
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I shall be looking forward to that , bet it will be a good read especially if charlie as got any thing to do with it . thank you Trevor .
