Another shot of Freds Buffalo , unknown location
Hi routeman 67 , yes he is still living at Waddeston , his son works for Lucker bros , he never did want to work with his dad , His daughter worked for him but they had a good offer so they sold out . 
altitude:
I think you had to be 21 or over to drive anything over three ton unladen, I may be wrong I often am.
Yeah, that’s what I had in the back of my mind and I remember people saying they could get the Bedford flats under that and still get big loads on them, but I would have thought those tippers would have been well over that unladen weight. 
Perhaps they forgot! 
BigG-Unit:
altitude:
I think you had to be 21 or over to drive anything over three ton unladen, I may be wrong I often am.Yeah, that’s what I had in the back of my mind and I remember people saying they could get the Bedford flats under that and still get big loads on them, but I would have thought those tippers would have been well over that unladen weight.
Hi BigG unit… No the Bedford tippers (ameys) were mostly short wb then --re built from ex Raf Queen Mary units by amey and carry 4 yds sand or 5 yds shingle -remember that materials were sold by volume and so never went on a weighbridge !! so how could we poor drivers ever know we were overweight ? 
toshboy:
BigG-Unit:
altitude:
I think you had to be 21 or over to drive anything over three ton unladen, I may be wrong I often am.Yeah, that’s what I had in the back of my mind and I remember people saying they could get the Bedford flats under that and still get big loads on them, but I would have thought those tippers would have been well over that unladen weight.
Hi BigG unit… No the Bedford tippers (ameys) were mostly short wb then --re built from ex Raf Queen Mary units by amey and carry 4 yds sand or 5 yds shingle -remember that materials were sold by volume and so never went on a weighbridge !! so how could we poor drivers ever know we were overweight ?
Were these lorries given a level load or were they given say 5 bucketfulls with a 1 yard bucket? This would explain the dead square buckets on the old tractor loaders. I remember an old Priestman dragline of Smiths that had 3 cu yrds stamped on its bucket.
Muckaway:
toshboy:
BigG-Unit:
altitude:
I think you had to be 21 or over to drive anything over three ton unladen, I may be wrong I often am.Yeah, that’s what I had in the back of my mind and I remember people saying they could get the Bedford flats under that and still get big loads on them, but I would have thought those tippers would have been well over that unladen weight.
Hi BigG unit… No the Bedford tippers (ameys) were mostly short wb then --re built from ex Raf Queen Mary units by amey and carry 4 yds sand or 5 yds shingle -remember that materials were sold by volume and so never went on a weighbridge !! so how could we poor drivers ever know we were overweight ?
Were these lorries given a level load or were they given say 5 bucketfulls with a 1 yard bucket? This would explain the dead square buckets on the old tractor loaders. I remember an old Priestman dragline of Smiths that had 3 cu yrds stamped on its bucket.
If you had a full load ( 7yards. on a 4 wheeler when I started ) that was a level load, then you had a strip up the inside of the body in yards, so the driver leveled it out to whatever amount he had to put on, if you had 7 yards of wet sand or ballast I would think there was a good chance you were overloaded.
I use the metresticks whenever a motor hasnt got a weigher 11 for muck 12 to 13 for rubble and 14 on compost soil. H ealth and safety have now banned getting onto the body so how itll be done now Ive yet to decide…
Hi Altitude
Re Volume verses weight — If a customer wanted 5 yards ,thats exactly what he got —today he wants 15 tonnes say and he gets 14 plus 1 tonne lake water at the price of sand -i know there is an average allowance but i never come across a gravel pit that took regular moisture contents per load unlike when selling ready mix. --toshboy
toshboy:
Hi AltitudeRe Volume verses weight — If a customer wanted 5 yards ,thats exactly what he got —today he wants 15 tonnes say and he gets 14 plus 1 tonne lake water at the price of sand -i know there is an average allowance but i never come across a gravel pit that took regular moisture contents per load unlike when selling ready mix. --toshboy
Yeah your right there with volume they got what they paid for, they weren’t buying water.
altitude:
toshboy:
Hi AltitudeRe Volume verses weight — If a customer wanted 5 yards ,thats exactly what he got —today he wants 15 tonnes say and he gets 14 plus 1 tonne lake water at the price of sand -i know there is an average allowance but i never come across a gravel pit that took regular moisture contents per load unlike when selling ready mix. --toshboy
Yeah your right there with volume they got what they paid for, they weren’t buying water.
DONT MENTION WET SAND JOHN!
Muckaway:
altitude:
toshboy:
Hi AltitudeRe Volume verses weight — If a customer wanted 5 yards ,thats exactly what he got —today he wants 15 tonnes say and he gets 14 plus 1 tonne lake water at the price of sand -i know there is an average allowance but i never come across a gravel pit that took regular moisture contents per load unlike when selling ready mix. --toshboy
Yeah your right there with volume they got what they paid for, they weren’t buying water.
DONT MENTION WET SAND JOHN!
The National Archive of Transport, Travel and Trade or NA3T for short is an interesting website with a comprehensive catalogue of transport images. They hold copyright of images but permit them to be used on forums providing they are shown unaltered.
So for starters. here goes.
I find that NA3T terms and conditions have changed since posting this, so along with other NA3T pictures posted by me, I am removing them.
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One for muckaway to ponder, It looks like Smith and Sons Dodge.
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Stephenson’s Bedford in St Giles.
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Another removal firm Coopers of Banbury.
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British Leyland service training motor.
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Varied BRS vehicles.
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Another 3 BRS.
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Another trio of BRS.
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