kr79:
as the saying goes at times the law is an ■■■
I agree with you for once.Such as when the laws which outlawed same ■■■ relationships were removed. 
Carryfast:
Fileep:
kr79:
Well if she was 16 it would technically be legal to get married with her parents permission but as the saying goes at times the law is an ■■■16 at the time of marriage, how long was the courtship? was she 13, 14?
Sick in the head!!!
Think you need to check the law again by reference to Joe Philpot’s case.
But sick in the head does’nt come much sicker than thinking that a 5 year age gap male/female relationship between a bloke in his 20’s and a girl in her teens,like the one between my mum and dad when they were in their courtship together,(which adheres to the age of consent,because it is actually possible and legal to actually ‘date’ a girl without any physical relationship taking place even before the age of 16 which is why Joe Philpot and my relative’s husband did’nt go to jail
Just so we are clear on this you, think its acceptable for a man in his 40’s to date a girl under 16 as long as there is no physical relationship?
If you think that is acceptable then you do seriously have a problem, were social services to find out about this then they would have raised concerns with the police & intervened with specialised social workers! Any other under aged children in that family would also be on the radar, and this is why children get taken into care because parents who allow this behaviour to carry on are not fit to have children.
And before you start talking further ■■■■■■■■ about who you know got away with it, I work in the criminal justice system and am fully aware of what happens with regards to safe guarding children.
Fileep:
Carryfast:
Fileep:
kr79:
Well if she was 16 it would technically be legal to get married with her parents permission but as the saying goes at times the law is an ■■■16 at the time of marriage, how long was the courtship? was she 13, 14?
Sick in the head!!!
Think you need to check the law again by reference to Joe Philpot’s case.
But sick in the head does’nt come much sicker than thinking that a 5 year age gap male/female relationship between a bloke in his 20’s and a girl in her teens,like the one between my mum and dad when they were in their courtship together,(which adheres to the age of consent,because it is actually possible and legal to actually ‘date’ a girl without any physical relationship taking place even before the age of 16 which is why Joe Philpot and my relative’s husband did’nt go to jail
Just so we are clear on this you, think its acceptable for a man in his 40’s to date a girl under 16 as long as there is no physical relationship?
If you think that is acceptable then you do seriously have a problem, were social services to find out about this then they would have raised concerns with the police & intervened with specialised social workers! Any other under aged children in that family would also be on the radar, and this is why children get taken into care because parents who allow this behaviour to carry on are not fit to have children.
And before you start talking further ■■■■■■■■ about who you know got away with it, I work in the criminal justice system and am fully aware of what happens with regards to safe guarding children.
You might work in the criminal justice system but the fact is you seem to know zb all about the law.If you’re right,which you’re not, then Nicola Philpot and my relative would have been put into care instead of being married at the age of 16 in my relative’s case with her parents permission and 18 in the case of Nicola Philpot without.The fact is both my relative and Nicola Philpot were both raising their own families before the age of 18 in relationships which started out in a non physical sense before the age of 16.
In your typically modern day zb’d up view of life those girls would have been put into care at the age of 15 and their future husbands locked up.
The worrying thing is that the criminal justice system and probably the care system has people in it who obviously think that it’s better for their own daughters to be in a same ■■■ lesbian relationship than a normal male/female one.
But I would’nt be at all surprised to learn that your lot have changed the situation since Nicola Philpot and my relative started their relationships with their husbands.
Just so we’re clear on this you think it’s ok to tell someone’s 20 year old son,who was interested in starting a relationship with your daughter at the age of 15,who she obviously liked enough to bring home to introduce to you,to zb off because you think that what he was doing was perverted,but you’d have been happy if your daughter started a lesbian relationship 3 years later. 
If that’s the quality of the British criminal justice system then it was’nt worth my dad fighting for the zb place.
But yes to my knowledge the details of both my relative’s case and that of Nicola Philpot showed that it’s legal for a bloke of whatever zb age to start a non physical relationship with a girl of 15 until the age of 16 when they could legally start a physical relationship and if that is’nt the case then the details of Joe and Nicola Philpot’s relationship were reported wrong (doubtful) and there’s no way that my relative could have been married at 16 and had two children by her husband by the age of 18 without being put into care first.Maybe being such an expert on these matters you can prove otherwise. In the meantime I’ll try to ask my cousin for her daughter’s marriage certificate assuming you still think that I’m a liar.
Carryfast:
kr79:
How many kids end up in care that shouldn’t be there some but not many if anything there are kids that would be better off in care but are left with parents such as baby p. But I suppose you think it was better that he was left with his scumbag mother and partner than with a adopted family who may or may not have been gay.
And as for your point about the queen and prince Philip there disfunctional family is hardly an advert for good parenting.
An age gap matters less the older each partner is a 30 year old and a 40 year old is different than a 16 year old and a 26 year old but even as I get older I think I wouldn’t want more than a 10 year gap in a relationship.Think I’ve got you and RobK sussed.You’re basically a couple of same ■■■ relationship supporters saying that my Dad was a ■■■■■■■■■■ let alone the 48 year old bloke who won out (legally) with the teenaged bird of my own age who I wanted at the time and (in the context of a legally binding marriage made in southern states America of the 1950’s) it would have been those who you are supporting who would have been (rightly) getting the attentions of the police not Jerry Lee Lewis wether here or there at the
time.Think maybe you and RobK need to get it all into context before rushing down to the local nick with my details.But if they want me that bad I’ll go quietly and give myself up.I’ll just hope that it is’nt some pervert same ■■■ relationship and adoption supporter who wants to dig Jerry Lee Lewis up and put him on trial posthumously who makes the decision on wether to zb charge me or not.
Let’s hope they don’t dig him up he is not dead
kr79:
Carryfast:
kr79:
How many kids end up in care that shouldn’t be there some but not many if anything there are kids that would be better off in care but are left with parents such as baby p. But I suppose you think it was better that he was left with his scumbag mother and partner than with a adopted family who may or may not have been gay.
And as for your point about the queen and prince Philip there disfunctional family is hardly an advert for good parenting.
An age gap matters less the older each partner is a 30 year old and a 40 year old is different than a 16 year old and a 26 year old but even as I get older I think I wouldn’t want more than a 10 year gap in a relationship.Think I’ve got you and RobK sussed.You’re basically a couple of same ■■■ relationship supporters saying that my Dad was a ■■■■■■■■■■ let alone the 48 year old bloke who won out (legally) with the teenaged bird of my own age who I wanted at the time and (in the context of a legally binding marriage made in southern states America of the 1950’s) it would have been those who you are supporting who would have been (rightly) getting the attentions of the police not Jerry Lee Lewis wether here or there at the
time.Think maybe you and RobK need to get it all into context before rushing down to the local nick with my details.But if they want me that bad I’ll go quietly and give myself up.I’ll just hope that it is’nt some pervert same ■■■ relationship and adoption supporter who wants to dig Jerry Lee Lewis up and put him on trial posthumously who makes the decision on wether to zb charge me or not.
Let’s hope they don’t dig him up he is not dead
In that case maybe the yankee pc northern zb’s will extradite him to 'Frisco and put him in front of a jury made up of Californian poofs while they’ve still got the chance. 
You my friend, and I use that term loosely, are a PERVERT. I bet there are some interesting images on your computer that the Police would be interested in if you think this behaviour is acceptable! 47 year old man marrying 16 year old child(legal definition). If you can get 10 people on here tom agree with your stance on this matter I will eat my hat and post pictues on here.
Fileep:
You my friend, and I use that term loosely, are a PERVERT. I bet there are some interesting images on your computer that the Police would be interested in if you think this behaviour is acceptable! 47 year old man marrying 16 year old child(legal definition). If you can get 10 people on here tom agree with your stance on this matter I will eat my hat and post pictues on here.
You can bet as much as you like and you’d lose your money .So why not report your suspicions based on the fact that you seem to like to put 2 and 2 together to make 5 in the so called justice system these days.
I could’nt give a zb about who agrees or not I’m just stating facts and if you’re right then everyone at her wedding,including the vicar,and probably all the guests at the reception would have been arrested.That’s assuming that the bride was’nt put into care first before she even got to the church by a bunch of pervert same ■■■ relationship supporting age police.
However it’s not surprising that anyone who showed his daughter’s boyfriend the door,because he was all of 5 YEARS !! older than her but who would be happier if she came home with another woman instead 3 years later,would’nt have been open minded enough to accept it and do as I was told,when I lost out as a teenager,to a bloke 30 years older than the teenaged girl of my own age,who I was interested in at the time.It’s life get over it.
But unlike you her father would have (rightly) been a lot more bothered about it if she’d have wanted to marry another woman instead. Who’s calling who a zb pervert now.
But if they’re employing people in the criminal justice system who can’t differentiate age gap relationships from paedophilia then maybe it’s time to start looking at all cases in case some poor zb has been sent down for a very serious crime that they have’nt committed.
Carryfast:
Fileep:
You my friend, and I use that term loosely, are a PERVERT. I bet there are some interesting images on your computer that the Police would be interested in if you think this behaviour is acceptable! 47 year old man marrying 16 year old child(legal definition). If you can get 10 people on here tom agree with your stance on this matter I will eat my hat and post pictues on here.You can bet as much as you like and you’d lose your money
I could’nt give a zb about who agrees or not I’m just stating facts and if you’re right then everyone at her wedding,including the vicar,and probably all the guests at the reception would have been arrested.That’s assuming that the bride was’nt put into care first before she even got to the church by a bunch of pervert same ■■■ relationship supporting age police.
However it’s not surprising that anyone who showed his daughter’s boyfriend the door,because he was all of 5 YEARS !!
But unlike you her father would have (rightly) been a lot more bothered about it if she’d have wanted to marry another woman instead.
But if they’re employing people in the criminal justice system who can’t differentiate age gap relationships from paedophilia then maybe it’s time to start looking at all cases in case some poor zb has been sent down for a very serious crime that they have’nt committed.
Stop going off the subject…Yes I showed the bloke the door because he was an adult and my daughter at the time was a child!!! Like I said anyone who thinks thats ok is not right in the head! All the people at that wedding if they were in agreement with yourself then they too in my opinion were not right in the head also. 47 year old man marrying a girl of 16 and courting her when she was a child is JUST NOT RIGHT! I haven’t noticed any posts supporting your argument by the way! I wonder why that is?
There was a thing in one of the Sunday papers a few weeks back about a bloke in his late 40s who had married a girl of 17 about 15 years ago he now has dementia she couldn’t cope put him in a home. And moved in with a bloke her age.
Then again with carryfasts anti gayness perhaps he is a repressed gay. I’m sure he will let us know when he gets back from the park with his sweets and puppys
Fileep:
Carryfast:
Fileep:
You my friend, and I use that term loosely, are a PERVERT. I bet there are some interesting images on your computer that the Police would be interested in if you think this behaviour is acceptable! 47 year old man marrying 16 year old child(legal definition). If you can get 10 people on here tom agree with your stance on this matter I will eat my hat and post pictues on here.You can bet as much as you like and you’d lose your money
I could’nt give a zb about who agrees or not I’m just stating facts and if you’re right then everyone at her wedding,including the vicar,and probably all the guests at the reception would have been arrested.That’s assuming that the bride was’nt put into care first before she even got to the church by a bunch of pervert same ■■■ relationship supporting age police.
However it’s not surprising that anyone who showed his daughter’s boyfriend the door,because he was all of 5 YEARS !!
But unlike you her father would have (rightly) been a lot more bothered about it if she’d have wanted to marry another woman instead.
But if they’re employing people in the criminal justice system who can’t differentiate age gap relationships from paedophilia then maybe it’s time to start looking at all cases in case some poor zb has been sent down for a very serious crime that they have’nt committed.
Stop going off the subject…Yes I showed the bloke the door because he was an adult and my daughter at the time was a child!!! Like I said anyone who thinks thats ok is not right in the head! All the people at that wedding if they were in agreement with yourself then they too in my opinion were not right in the head also. 47 year old man marrying a girl of 16 and courting her when she was a child is JUST NOT RIGHT! I haven’t noticed any posts supporting your argument by the way! I wonder why that is?
Think you’ve said enough there to have accused both me and my late dad of being paedophiles considering that both him and me were at that wedding and considering that he did exactly the same thing in starting a relationship with my mum when he was an adult over 21 and she was (going by your criterea) a child under 21 as that bloke did who (tried) to do with your daughter.I’m not surprised that there’s no one else here to agree with me considering the type of zb that they’d be subjected to if they dared to voice there opinions.However it might be interesting to hear the opinions of that bloke’s,who you told to zb off,father and/or family in all this.
It’s my bet that if they were to direct the question to you as to wether you’d have done the same thing if their ages had been over 16 in her case and over 21 in his case that you’d still say yes but you’d have been ok with it if your daughter was a lesbian and if their son had been a lesbian bird instead ‘if’ they’d both have been the same age.Still seems to me you’ve got some zb’d up ideas about exactly what the age of consent means.
kr79:
There was a thing in one of the Sunday papers a few weeks back about a bloke in his late 40s who had married a girl of 17 about 15 years ago he now has dementia she couldn’t cope put him in a home. And moved in with a bloke her age.
Then again with carryfasts anti gayness perhaps he is a repressed gay. I’m sure he will let us know when he gets back from the park with his sweets and puppys
I would’nt have been surprised if there had been yet more propaganda in the pc media concerning the drawbacks of age gap marriages.
But getting dementia in your 50’s is’nt exactly a common thing.But bet the papers were’nt so keen to point out the fact that the reason why he went for that girl of 17 in the first place was probably because he’d already married a bird of his own age previously who then looked 50 in her 30’s so he decided to dump her.He’s then obviously found a bird to who the idea of honouring her marriage vows (in sickness and in health for better or worse) mean zb all so she’s now zb’d off and dumped him.
Which just shows what comes around goes around in his case.But it does’nt say much for the intelligence of the bloke her age who’s now taken on another bloke’s 30 something wife.The next time it might be her who gets dementia at worse or she’ll age at a faster rate just like all the rest in which case she’ll probably then be the one getting dumped and the new bloke will then be looking for a younger bird himself later on.
By the way one of those two age gap marriages I know of (my relative’s) failed not because she dumped him but because he dumped her for another young girl of the same age as her,actually one of her friends ,and the other one (the girl of my own age who I wanted) is still happily married to her husband who has luckily kept his health into his 80’s.Which reflects the general rate of marriage failure of whatever age.
But you can rest assured I’m not a pervert paedo or a repressed pervert who fancies my own ■■■ either.Which is why I’m happy to see laws that criminalise ‘both’ activeties unlike you and many others on here obviously.
Late 40s plus 15 is early 60s but to be fair you can get ill at any age and a partner of any age could walk out on you but it just isn’t right.
In cases I’ve seen the young girls who marry older men are looking for a father figure or trying to escape an unhappy family home and the type of men who go for them take advantage of there vunrability.
There are some threads on here which I wish would’ve gone on longer than they did but this is not one of them. Virtually all 18 year olds are pretty immature in terms of experience of the real world of course so anyone younger is very likely to not be emotionally aware of the consequences of their actions, but I would’ve thought a 30 year age difference in a marriage with one partner being a teenager is much more unusual these days than a gay relationship and would probably cause more tongue-wagging.
However, in the example of the McCartney/Mills relationship (26 year difference with the younger at 34), I don’t know who was taking advantage of who (not that I’m implying anything). I think both parties may think they both got what they needed at the time and this may apply fleetingly in other examples. Behind the shared interest in animal welfare, one got access to wealth and kudos and the other got access to other things. That is not to say that there cannot be true love between such consenting adults (I’m on about the age gap example, though that sentiment applies to other “unorthodox” relationships).
Thankfully in this country you don’t have to engage in non-criminal activities you don’t approve of. What you do have to do is tolerate them, get the law changed or leave!
kr79:
Late 40s plus 15 is early 60s but to be fair you can get ill at any age and a partner of any age could walk out on you but it just isn’t right.
In cases I’ve seen the young girls who marry older men are looking for a father figure or trying to escape an unhappy family home and the type of men who go for them take advantage of there vunrability.
Unless you’ve actually experienced the scenario,of actually losing out with/being rejected by an under 18 girl of around your own age,because she ‘preferred’ the choice of going for someone who was 30 years older than her, you know her father and family having been good long term friends of your own parents,so no reason for an unhappy family life and no need to look for any so called father figure whatsoever either,who was old enough to understand exactly what she was doing by making her choice,in this case having had permission to marry the older bloke denied by her parents so they had to wait until she was 18,and then after having had to come to terms with that type of rejection,and then seeing that marriage survive which proved that her choice certainly was’nt the wrong one for her,whereas her own parents’ close age marriage failed sometime later,I’d say you’re making conclusions and assumptions about a subject that you know absolutely zb all about.
Snudger:
but I would’ve thought a 30 year age difference in a marriage with one partner being a teenager is much more unusual these days than a gay relationship and would probably cause more tongue-wagging.
Thankfully in this country you don’t have to engage in non-criminal activities you don’t approve of. What you do have to do is tolerate them, get the law changed or leave!
That’s partly the point I’m trying to make.It’s a zb sick society that brands normal legal male/female relationships as perverted while changing the law to make illegal perverted same ■■■ ones legal and acceptable.
I’ve been off for 2 weeks, typical, i’ve missed out on the best thread in ages…Coffee, your post on page 2, “■■■■■■■■■■■■■■” ought to win post of the year mate, funniest thing i’ve seen in ages. I couldn’t read any more after that post for tears in my eyes so i’ve got nothing constructive to add but i’m pleased to see that CF is still as nutty as a fruitcake.
And as RobK said lol like ■■■■ at the thread title
I’m going on ones I’ve seen but can’t comment on me been in your situation as it never happened to me any women who has ended relationships with me back then was because I couldn’t stop banging any female that offered it and my general lack of consideration and spending to much time out with mates.
But I just don’t get age gaps I just don’t have anything in common with teenagers and I’m 32
Carryfast:
Snudger:
but I would’ve thought a 30 year age difference in a marriage with one partner being a teenager is much more unusual these days than a gay relationship and would probably cause more tongue-wagging.
Thankfully in this country you don’t have to engage in non-criminal activities you don’t approve of. What you do have to do is tolerate them, get the law changed or leave!That’s partly the point I’m trying to make.It’s a zb sick society that brands normal legal male/female relationships as perverted while changing the law to make illegal perverted same ■■■ ones legal and acceptable.
I don’t want to be rude, honestly…But you don’t get it, you keep banging on about it being normal, a teenager going out with someone in their late 40’s…It’s not normal, never as been never will be.
What about an 18 year old going out with a 11 year old, is that normal?
Fileep:
Carryfast:
Snudger:
but I would’ve thought a 30 year age difference in a marriage with one partner being a teenager is much more unusual these days than a gay relationship and would probably cause more tongue-wagging.
Thankfully in this country you don’t have to engage in non-criminal activities you don’t approve of. What you do have to do is tolerate them, get the law changed or leave!That’s partly the point I’m trying to make.It’s a zb sick society that brands normal legal male/female relationships as perverted while changing the law to make illegal perverted same ■■■ ones legal and acceptable.
I don’t want to be rude, honestly…But you don’t get it, you keep banging on about it being normal, a teenager going out with someone in their late 40’s…It’s not normal, never as been never will be.
What about an 18 year old going out with a 11 year old, is that normal?
An age gap relationship between a man of 48 and a woman of 18 is a lot more zb ‘normal’ than a same age,same ■■■, relationship between two 18 year old men or two 18 year old women .But with the ideas on here in which a bloke of 32 thinks he’s too old for a bird of over 16 and in which a girl of 15’s father told her 20 year old boyfriend to zb off because he’d prefer to see his daughter with another woman of her own age than with a bloke 5 years older it’s not surprising that you don’t get it.
But no an 11 year old should not be involved in any type of relationship and that’s why we (rightly) lock up zb paedophiles although not for long enough.Now do you get it because I’m getting tired of trying to explain basic human values which your parents should have told you as soon as you were old enough to understand them.
Think this says everything about the BBC and it’s ideas on taking the zb out of a place where decent values still exist as far as possible allowed under federal pc regulations.
topgear.com/uk/videos/southe … rce=truveo
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kr79:
I’m going on ones I’ve seen but can’t comment on me been in your situation as it never happened to me any women who has ended relationships with me back then was because I couldn’t stop banging any female that offered it and my general lack of consideration and spending to much time out with mates.
But I just don’t get age gaps I just don’t have anything in common with teenagers and I’m 32
Never even got the chance for her to ‘end any relationship’ because she gave me the zb cold shoulder as soon as I started chatting with her when I first met her.Only found out afterwards when I started asking questions why.
You don’t get age gaps because you don’t think that you’ve got anything in common with teenagers but you can understand same ■■■ relationships and why a same ■■■ couple can have enough ‘in common’ to ‘get married’ and/or adopt someone else’s kids.