As said, drivers looking to change jobs are being discriminated against regarding discretion the way things are.
If any of our flock are resident in Jacob Rees Mogg’s constituency i bet its something he would take a look at, can’t think of single other MP worth the time of day.
AndrewG:
Easy one to navigate. You can drive for 15 days if your card is lost, all you do is do daily VU printouts. Go for the assessment, youve lost your card or its elsewhere not accessable at the moment…employer none the wiser. Most will ask some basic tacho questions which any driver worth his salt could answer which should prove youre capable.
^^ This!
In fact you shouldn’t even need to BS that you’ve lost it, just declare that you are not prepared to log the assessment drive on your digicard as it could cause issues at your current employment but are more than willing and competent enough to fill out manual entries for that journey…
truckertang:
Yes they do have workshop cards but the trucks always come back with driving without card…[emoji34][emoji379]
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A workshop card is like a company card for downloading and doing other stuff to a tacho or vehicle.
The only card that can be used for driving is a personal dig card.
As for the whole issue then people need to grow a pair, go for an assessment and use your card, as long as you keep within the tacho laws there is no issue. Most companies would not care less about you going for an interview/assessment. Tell them you are going for one and see what their response is?
It will be one of two responses, oh I didn’t realise you were not happy here what can I do to keep you as you’re a good worker?
Or no problem but can we make sure it fits in with your work for the day/night.
The response you get will depend on how much your company value you, bigger companies generally won’t give a toss. No company can treat you unfairly or stop you from going for an interview for another job if they start acting up simply say by law they cannot stop you but you thought it was better to give them advance warning that you’re actively seeking a new job. Most employers will like the fact your being upfront with them.
I have never had an issue asking for time off to go to interviews and never been treated unfairly or discriminated against for doing so, and as with everything I have been for interviews and turned the job down when offered it and stuck with my current job because it was better.
Pat Hasler:
As I have not driven a lorry in the UK since 2000 bring up to date please … Are you telling me that a truck can’t move unless there is a tacho card inserted ? How do workshop staff etc move them or test drive them ? The card you use did not exist when I left the country, we had regular tacho discs charts, whenever I went for a driving assessment no card was used.
A truck can be moved without a card in certain situations. for example shunted around the yard or used by a workshop for road testing purposes. The tacho will show missing mileage without a card inserted, the company responsible for the vehicles has to allocate the missing mileage on tachomaster or whatever they use, so that Vosa can see why there is mileage that is not accounted for with a card inserted.
sck04560:
Say you’re working for a company and fancy a change and apply for new job.
This involves a driving assessment with your driver card in the tacho…
What’s stopping your current employer seeing on the next card download that you’ve had a ‘mystery’ drive somewhere else and it looks like you’ve been for an assessment?
Know you can say that you were moving a mates truck but they’re not daft. Any ideas round this?
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Why are you even bothered mate?
They don’t own you.
AndrewG:
Easy one to navigate. You can drive for 15 days if your card is lost, all you do is do daily VU printouts. Go for the assessment, youve lost your card or its elsewhere not accessable at the moment…employer none the wiser. Most will ask some basic tacho questions which any driver worth his salt could answer which should prove youre capable.
^^ This!
In fact you shouldn’t even need to BS that you’ve lost it, just declare that you are not prepared to log the assessment drive on your digicard as it could cause issues at your current employment but are more than willing and competent enough to fill out manual entries for that journey…
Not this. Not this at all.
You can driver for 15 days if your card is reported as lost to DVSA. If you don’t report it, you are breaking the law. If you make a false report you are obtaining a second card by false representation, which could impact upon your professional repute and result in an appearance in front of your local TC. Holding two valid cards at a time is not permitted, except in the final few days of a card when you have to carry both.
Driving without the card in if you have a card is making a false record.
Doing a manual entry when you get into work and only recording the assessed drive as other work is making a false record.
Basically, put your card in, make the right record. Any other solution is a breach of the regs and illegal. Your current TM has a right to know if you have driven another vehicle when not driving his. You have a responsibility to tell him/her if you have driven another vehicle during your off duty times. What you don’t need to tell him/her or he/she has no right to know, is who owns the vehicle you drive when off duty.
AndrewG:
Easy one to navigate. You can drive for 15 days if your card is lost, all you do is do daily VU printouts. Go for the assessment, youve lost your card or its elsewhere not accessable at the moment…employer none the wiser. Most will ask some basic tacho questions which any driver worth his salt could answer which should prove youre capable.
^^ This!
In fact you shouldn’t even need to BS that you’ve lost it, just declare that you are not prepared to log the assessment drive on your digicard as it could cause issues at your current employment but are more than willing and competent enough to fill out manual entries for that journey…
What you don’t need to tell him/her or he/she has no right to know, is who owns the vehicle you drive when off duty.
Oh i can just imagine how the conversation with the TM where i work would pan out if i used that line
Disciplinary procedures enacted, probably leading to summary dismissal for driving another company’s vehicle, though i’m only guessing this because it’s almost unheard of for anyone to put their notice in and leave.
No, this is a genuine problem for drivers seeking other jobs, and it needs some sort of agreement with the powers that be for such things, if it was only applying to the usual grievance minority groups the PTB would have put steps in place years ago.
It doesn’t apply at proper employers quite so much, because in most cases the hire decision has been made anyway and the assessment purely a formality, my assessment was after i’d be offered and accepted the job, this problem as so many do applies at the large logistics hyenas where staff are numbers not people and everything is box ticking.
The amusing thing being that most of these places would be better off conducting the assessments in their own yards anyway, any fool can drive an assessment course to pass its getting the vehicle into places where you find out who can drive or not.